CPF Questions (minimum sum)

kelhot2001

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Even if 100% of RA is given to one insurer only, I doubt very much the insurer is able to give 4+1+1% and guarantee same life payout. Firstly, the insurer needs to make profit from the pool and secondly the insurer cannot invest the pool as they like. Even if they invest in equities more than bonds or fixed income instruments, there is risk of being insolvent.

I am not so sure too but given that kind of money and assurance you never know

Every year almost 2 to 3 billon is placed to them for 10 year period as fixed deposit. After 10 years then you can draw out
Secondly, the breakeven is at 90 year of age.
So it is anyone guess
 

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Why must outsource?

Private insurers can offer their own longevity insurances using cash money.

As far as I know, there is no plan that can make a lifetime payouts and at similar levels as CPF Life.

Simpler way to understand, assume i sell single TV at $3000 per tv set. Today, 1 guy come and ask me to sell him 10000 tv at $2800. I will defiNitely agree straight away.
Assured quantities will justified a better rates
 

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I am the one who deleted the post because i found the answer on CPF's website.

Anyway to address the issue, when u withdraw from CPF life, your money will be refunded (my qn was about migrating at 60) but i ain't sure if it is refunded with interest or not. Sent an email to CPF and waiting for their reply. Will update when i get details.

Someone deleted their post about exiting CPF Life. Then the post was deleted. :s22:
 

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I am the one who deleted the post because i found the answer on CPF's website.

Anyway to address the issue, when u withdraw from CPF life, your money will be refunded (my qn was about migrating at 60) but i ain't sure if it is refunded with interest or not. Sent an email to CPF and waiting for their reply. Will update when i get details.

At 60, you have not joined CPF Life yet.

You have some money in RA already. You will still get your interests till the day you withdraw from CPF.

Just my logical explanation.
 

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At 60, you have not joined CPF Life yet.

You have some money in RA already. You will still get your interests till the day you withdraw from CPF.

Just my logical explanation.

Not till the day you withdraw.
 

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Ah i see. So does that mean that at 64 years and 6 months (for example), i migrate and all the cpf + (RA acct funds set aside for CPF LIFE+ interests on this account) will be returned to recipient?
 

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Ah i see. So does that mean that at 64 years and 6 months (for example), i migrate and all the cpf + (RA acct funds set aside for CPF LIFE+ interests on this account) will be returned to recipient?

Based on my understanding, should return.

This is not mentioned in FAQ.
 

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Based on my understanding, should return.

This is not mentioned in FAQ.

Of course will return. The Board does not cheat or penalise anyone who is eligible to withdraw, partial or full, his CPF monies, except interest on the monies is calculated up to the preceding month when CPF is withdrawn. In other words, you only have to forgo the interest on the days of the month that you withdraw.
 

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Of course will return. The Board does not cheat or penalise anyone who is eligible to withdraw, partial or full, his CPF monies, except interest on the monies is calculated up to the preceding month when CPF is withdrawn. In other words, you only have to forgo the interest on the days of the month that you withdraw.

Considering that someone asked so it must not be an easy question to answer.

But thank you for affirming to my logic.

And also to the part of minus 1 month. :D
 

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Ah i see. So does that mean that at 64 years and 6 months (for example), i migrate and all the cpf + (RA acct funds set aside for CPF LIFE+ interests on this account) will be returned to recipient?

No need to do it at that age, can do any time, "best returns" before 70 when CPF Life is automatically activated but even after CPF Life is activated, u still can do it.

Read CPF website, all the conditions, requirements and procedures written there

https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Members/FAQ/schemes/other-matters/cpf-withdrawals-on-other-grounds#
 

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This is the reply that was given to me by cpf:


Once you have joined or are placed on CPF LIFE, you can leave the scheme under the following reasons.

a) You have a medical condition which causes you:
- to be physically or mentally incapacitated from ever continuing in any employment; or
- to have a severely impaired life expectancy; or
- to lack capacity within the meaning of Section 4 of the Mental Capacity Act (MCA) and the lack of capacity is likely to be permanent; or
- to be terminally ill.

b) You are about to leave / have left Singapore and West Malaysia permanently with no intention of returning for work or to live.

c) You are a Malaysian citizen and have left Singapore permanently to live in West Malaysia.

d) You are fully exempted from setting aside the retirement sum in your Retirement Account because you are receiving a monthly pension / annuity payout.

The CPF LIFE Standard Plan, the CPF LIFE Escalating Plan and the CPF LIFE Basic Plan have a refund feature. This means you will receive a refund of the savings used to join CPF LIFE less any monthly payouts you received before leaving. No interest will be refunded. You may not receive a refund if we have paid out all your savings that you used to join CPF LIFE in the form of monthly payouts.
 
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