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If I am age 55 this year, and my SA alone is sufficient to hit FRS for RA, by the time I am age 65, my RA would have exceeded the FRS by virtue of the added interest over 10 years.

This means the money going into CPF life at age 65 will be [FRS (@year 2021) + 10 years on interest)] ??

And during these 10 years, can I choose to continue to do volunteer cash contributions (maybe up to $7k for tax deduction)?
 

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If SA already more than FRS, voluntary cash top-up of $7k into SA will not be considered for tax reduction?

Am I correct?
 

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looks like CPF looking to change rules to save more interest paid out. Better shield when one can still?
I attended one of the recent CPF Webinar, and the speaker keep repeating that delaying CPF Life Payout is better.:unsure: Are they going to change the Payout age?
 

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I attended one of the recent CPF Webinar, and the speaker keep repeating that delaying CPF Life Payout is better.:unsure: Are they going to change the Payout age?
Meaning, to start payout from age70 instead of 65??
 

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If I am age 55 this year, and my SA alone is sufficient to hit FRS for RA, by the time I am age 65, my RA would have exceeded the FRS by virtue of the added interest over 10 years.

This means the money going into CPF life at age 65 will be [FRS (@year 2021) + 10 years on interest)] ??

And during these 10 years, can I choose to continue to do volunteer cash contributions (maybe up to $7k for tax deduction)?
Suppose you were 55 this year, and your RA has been created and credited with current FRS ($186k for 2021).

Come Jan 2022, the prevailing FRS would have increased to $192k (already announced for 2022), and so there would be a chance for you to use $6k cash to top up your RA to $192k.
Note that RA interests earned for 2021 (and credited 31 Dec 2021) are never considered in all these computations. Your $6k will have tax savings but if you top up $7k (allowed since can top up all the way to prevailing ERS of $288k for 2022) only $6k is eligible for tax relief.

And yes, you can do this every year as long as the FRS keeps increasing ( should be $6k for the next few years and likely more after that to adjust for inflation. Noticed that the increase was $5k from 2020 to 2021).

Your query also triggered me to ask: can one use property pledge to reduce RA to BRS (plus some possible top-ups), and in fact just partially, so as to be able to maximise tax relief of $7k? In your example, it would be to reduce RA to $185k or less so as to be able to top up $7k to $192k, and so on every year after that? Theoretically sounds possible but I am not sure if there are other practical hurdles? (This assumes one is able to make good use of the withdrawn RA to get 4% or more, but the goal here is tax savings..)
 

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RA withdrawals are counted against you in determining whether your RA has room below the Full Retirement Sum for tax relief purposes. See IRAS’s writeup.

Generally speaking you shouldn’t worry about trying to glide just below the FRS to eke out tax relief. Just push your RA up to the ERS if you can afford it. It’s a good deal.
 

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Hi Gurus, my virgin post and hope someone can help to advise?
Objective: To earn maximize CPF interest based on below scenarios.

SA: FRS
MA: BHS
OA: 9K

CPF used for property under bank loan including accrued interest is 21K.

Monthly installment from OA: $1250
Monthly DCA from OA to Endowus: $1200

Using my mum (86 years old) RA as investment vehicle. Her RA have a total of $174,500 from my OA and cash transfer. Monthly payout of $3621 as at August. Entire payout will be transferred back to my bank account as she don't need the payout.

My monthly employment contribution for OA will go for investment.

I have 2 options. Please advice which is better or you may have better suggestions.

1) Use $1200 from the payout to pay my house loan and recycle the balance back to the RA
OR
2) Deposit the payout back to my OA via housing refund and recycle the balance back to the RA.
 

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I have 2 options. Please advice which is better or you may have better suggestions.

1) Use $1200 from the payout to pay my house loan and recycle the balance back to the RA
OR
2) Deposit the payout back to my OA via housing refund and recycle the balance back to the RA.
Between these two options, not #2. (You have more than two options, actually.) There's nothing requiring an OA repayment that you cannot already accomplish without an OA repayment. So why "burn" any of your future opportunity to repay OA (and stash cash in a 2.5% interest earning account)? What's the benefit? No need, so don't.
 

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Between these two options, not #2. (You have more than two options, actually.) There's nothing requiring an OA repayment that you cannot already accomplish without an OA repayment. So why "burn" any of your future opportunity to repay OA (and stash cash in a 2.5% interest earning account)? What's the benefit? No need, so don't.
Thanks for the advice.
 

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After 55, is the SA minimum 40K amount still applies?

If no, it would be great to shield the total amount each time I need to withdraw money from CPF for retirement spending. Probably do it once a year, shield and unshield quickly.
 
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