Depression continues in new unit

[reddevil0728]

CSB la. They will confine him award a extras before he can go get another MC.

who????????????

 

[Ryuichi]

Before calling the threadstarter names or passing a judgement, why not give him a benefit of the doubt?

TS, seek help soon. Just go to a public hospital or GP.

 

[TypicalMan]

Book out alr straight away report to imh and any A&E. If your commanders say no. Play "family game" with them. I don't think you need any more explanation.

I believe that you are not trying to geng your way through. Take care and get well soon.

 

[Parmesean]

Hello people, I would like to share my PES F story.

Before I start, here is to the people who say people who chao keng are ****ies, hum ji, ball-less, etc. Not everyone is suited for the military. Not everyone is made for getting shouted at by sadistic superiors. For my case, I decided that NS pay of $480 was not going to cover my housing rent, my car installment, my food and my other expenses. I was not going to give up my freedom for a national duty.

Here is my story. I enlisted directly into HRI as PES E9L9 due to 'depression' (as diagnosed by IMH). I first started going to IMH a year before enlistment to build up a case to get a down pes. True enough, I got downgraded to E9L9 from A. As I only have a private diploma and O levels, being PES A will definitely make me a chiong sua man. To me, my business and career is more important than NS. We can leave the NS to those who aim just to be a mediocre person in life.

On the day of enlistment, I knew I had to shave my head. Thus I managed to get a memo from the IMH psychiatrist to request an excuse from cutting hair. A bald head would just make taking MCs from hospitals harder. Despite the memo, the commanders were adamant about cutting hair. I then acted up, curled into a ball, clutched my head and start sobbing as loud as I could. Immediately, the OC told me it will be fine and asked me to get it cut myself outside. He then asked me to go see my doctor and I went to IMH. I only spent 1 hour in camp throughout my entire NS life. After walking out of the camp, I immediately went to IMH a&e department and got myself a 4 day MC.

As the 4 day MC came to an end, I realized I could not go back to camp as I could not leave my work (that would result in me having no money). I then started a spree of MCs from hospital A&Es and polyclinics. These ranged from 1-5 day MCs. Although there is a directive that MCs more than 3 days must be endorsed, I just said I was too sick to leave the house and there was nothing they could do. I believe, somewhere along the line, they instructed hospitals to stop giving me MCs as the MCs started to dwindle to 1 day in duration. I then began to impersonate officers, pilots and even had friends dress up as my superiors wheel me in on wheelchairs to the A&E. Let's just say luckily the hospitals can't verify this.

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About a month into the MC spree, they had sent MPs to my house multiple times and claimed I wasn't home (I was at work obviously). Some ******* officer then threatened to charge me for not being at home when on MC. I immediately replied and yelled at him in a maniac voice that I was indeed at home and had just taken sleeping pills issued by the doctor. Why am I not allowed to rest when on MC? Need I be awake just for their stupid house visits?. I then threatened to go see my MP and talk to the press about them harassing me when I was trying to rest and this young punk officer immediately backed off.

The finale and PES F came when one day, they tried to get the police to breach my door down while I was on MC. Luckily I was at home and opened the door to the surprise of the police officers. I then conveyed my intent that I was sick and wanted to rest without being disturbed. They then left without protest.

Knowing that they would soon do more unscrupulous things, I checked myself into IMH for a 2 day resort stay fully paid for by our dear Mindef. The psychiatrist then asked if I would like to continue NS and I replied that I do not want to see people in army uniform as I wish to kill them. Immediately upon my discharge, they scheduled me to see an SAF psychiatrist and he gave me the most Honourable award the SAF can issue, a PES F as well as a 2 month MC to cover me from returning to camp while the PES F processes.

Two weeks later, a call from my camp informed me that my IC could be collected back. I went down, took my IC and walked out a free man, free of any reservist obligations, duty to obtain exit permits. I was and am elated.

In total, I was enlisted for a total of one month and two weeks, out of which, I spent only an hour in camp. On average, I spend one hour for each day MC making me effectively serve NS for one hour per day. Given the monthly allowance of $480 and given that I spend 5 hours a week taking MC, I am roughly paid $24 per hour to take MCs, making me the highest paid NSFs in service.

So to all PES F hopefuls, I want to encourage you to take this path. It is a path more exclusive than OCS, as only a select few can actually attain this highest honour. Don't be fooled by what some people say about PES F people being unable to be hired. The world is your oyster. Even if no one wants to hire you (very unlikely as people in the private sector don't give a **** about NS and would be happier if you had no NS obligations), start a business or carve your own career. Don't let the negativity of people who verbally abuse 'chao kengsters' affect you. Majority of this people have the 'just suck it up attitude' and are happy with a mediocre life. I'm not and I am sure you are not. I want to excel and succeed and challenge the impossible.

They said it was impossible to PES F and avoid hair cuts, but I did it nonetheless.

So go out and get your PES F and let the world see.

Sincerely,
A PES F-ed Recruit."

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I would like to add my 2 cents. I've been in the US for just under 2 weeks at this point, and I've met some pretty interesting people. Throughout my travels in San Francisco, I've been taking UberPOOLs. And the majority of people I have POOLed with, have stated that if the US implemented mandatory military service, there would not have as much problems in the US.

I know that my NS experience was a lot different than others, as I served my NS in the Police Coast Guard, but I honestly find NS a good experience. Although I still consider it a waste of time, one has to admit, that NS puts you on uncomfortable situations, that forces you to grow up, and make decisions quickly.

To the TS: NS is a short 2 year stint, it will pass quicker if you enjoy it. Seek help, go to IMH if need be, or just see a psychiatrist, if you can afford it, or even talk to someone about this, your parents, siblings, close friends, etc. Just talking it out with someone you are close with can help to ease some of the tension you are feeling.

 

[Eighty7]

So CSB.

But if the story is really that cool, that person really is siao liao. Is like telling people to go check him.

It’s a talk cock story.... SAF have no link to get police to breach a door just to check if the person is at home or not

 

[reddevil0728]

It’s a talk cock story.... SAF have no link to get police to breach a door just to check if the person is at home or not

simi no link.

 

[neobear224]

I would like to add my 2 cents. I've been in the US for just under 2 weeks at this point, and I've met some pretty interesting people. Throughout my travels in San Francisco, I've been taking UberPOOLs. And the majority of people I have POOLed with, have stated that if the US implemented mandatory military service, there would not have as much problems in the US.

I know that my NS experience was a lot different than others, as I served my NS in the Police Coast Guard, but I honestly find NS a good experience. Although I still consider it a waste of time, one has to admit, that NS puts you on uncomfortable situations, that forces you to grow up, and make decisions quickly.

To the TS: NS is a short 2 year stint, it will pass quicker if you enjoy it. Seek help, go to IMH if need be, or just see a psychiatrist, if you can afford it, or even talk to someone about this, your parents, siblings, close friends, etc. Just talking it out with someone you are close with can help to ease some of the tension you are feeling.

The military instills some sense of discipline in your life...

 

[Tombstonewan]

simi no link.

SAF doesn't have civil jurisdiction to enter into people home. They still need the SPF to conduct search and even so, they still need to obtain a warrant before entering people's premises.

 

[reddevil0728]

SAF doesn't have civil jurisdiction to enter into people home. They still need the SPF to conduct search and even so, they still need to obtain a warrant before entering people's premises.

Uhuh ok and you are saying they cannot get SPF to do that?

 

[Eighty7]

Uhuh ok and you are saying they cannot get SPF to do that?

Yes. SAF do not produce warrants for SPF to do such things. However even in time of operation SAF have to abide by rules of engagement to break down any door for any reason

 

[reddevil0728]

Yes. SAF do not produce warrants for SPF to do such things. However even in time of operation SAF have to abide by rules of engagement to break down any door for any reason

im not saying produce warrants, I am saying SAF has no legal ways to get SPF to go in on their behalf?

 

[Kyoji83]

Unit can handover the case to MP.

MP can get SPF & ICA for assistance especially for AWOL cases.

 

[reddevil0728]

Unit can handover the case to MP.

MP can get SPF & ICA for assistance.

that's what I'm asking. yes

 

[EMFLWK]

End of week one of unit and im still feeling depressed since my bmt period. What should I do ? I talked to all my commandants in charge of me .. including OC , called counsellor but at the end of the day they say the same thing.. " New unit , new people , memeorise etc.. "
The MO in tekong cancelled my psychologist appt .. verified by my new unit mo when I went to see him ..

Can anyone advice me ? Been having mental breakdowns.. Always unable to sleep even when I book out yesterday.. Always waking up in the middle of the night 4 - 5 times and its so hard to go back to sleep.. Its so nerve wrecking for me personally..
My unit is also anal about reporting sick.. They have to give green light before going too..

Hi Simple3days, any way I can contact you directly? Maybe on another platform? I just created an account so I can't PM you

 

[kazuki666]

Is it the food, mobile devices or just the air breathing in now? NSF these days sound pretty weak. I was enlisted about 15 years ago, which I won't really categorise myself as laojiao. We had our share of chaokeng, ooc, MC, but we don't have all the pattern for mental issues or stress. So much 5bx and samura in BMT that we can clock about 1000 push-ups in a day, play pizzahut for soc until heatstroke heli evac, 7days outfield kena 5 nights of enemy attack simulation at as early as 4am. I am not saying those are humane or the right way to train solider. None of the NSF enlist willingly, so it's really SAF aka serve and **** off.
(Or is it the teaching of ah boys to men??? LOL)

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