DIY PC Rig Recommendations For 2025

[siaodi]

i'm going to build intel 14900kf
I'm not a hardcore clocker, maybe just some minor tweaks on top of the auto settings to keep temps down..
i keep telling myself motherboard doesn't matter and i should just get the board with the functions i need.
sooooo... does motherboard really matters? the motherboard choice is below.

Asus TUF GAMING B760-PLUS WIFI

Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PRO WIFI

Asus ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI II

Asus ROG Z790 Maximus Dark Hero

 

[deepblue_82]

z790 are for the ppl with willing to spend...

 

[siaodi]

z790 are for the ppl with willing to spend...

i'm willing to spend.. but.. does it really make a difference?
like.. at least 10 to 15% difference in performance compared to b760?

Edited:
after so many years of playing around with PCs.. i still don't understand why there's so many different motherboard.. z790 got at least 12 to 20 to choose from by 1 vendor.. same goes for b760...

 

[deepblue_82]

i'm willing to spend.. but.. does it really make a difference?
like.. at least 10 to 15% difference in performance compared to b760?

Edited:
after so many years of playing around with PCs.. i still don't understand why there's so many different motherboard.. z790 got at least 12 to 20 to choose from by 1 vendor.. same goes for b760...

z790 are pretty much high end ones.. u can overclock.
performance gain to not really subject to the mb...
of coz there is difference like more usb or type c
rj45 2.5g more ssd slots bigger heat sink...

 

[fallraen]

Planning to buy a PC next year, but after having a kid I don't think I have time to build and do the cable management. Is there some one who I can pay to do this. Warranty wise I can settle with agent myself so I don't need Aftershock or dreamcore like service. Thoughts anyone?

 

[danexsis]

not sure if this was shared before but, highly recommend any one looking to buy new rigs to check it out, (long vid but just 2x it)

 

[NightRaven49]

you can get core reactor at 139 from performancepc or 149 from pckaki, this is not a promo price

they are, those shops do more promos than others. in fact, performance pc used to have the 750w listed for 179 not even 6 months ago, which is comparable to prices from tradepac or bizgram.

with so many sales dates, you can easily get focus gx and rog strix at 14x-160, unless you immediately need it

sales = promo price.

i'm willing to spend.. but.. does it really make a difference?
like.. at least 10 to 15% difference in performance compared to b760?

if the power delivery of the boards are robust, generally there shouldnt be that much of a difference. however, i wouldnt be surprised if the 14900k is too much for the b760 board in core heavy tasks since the 14900k can pull 400w+ without limits; the rog strix b660-a has a similar if not slightly better vrm than the b760 tuf and that could barely handle a 12900k at about half that wattage. z series boards have much beefier vrms and hence can likely tahan 14900k better, so less chance of performance loss before considering gains from oc support. then again, if ur just gaming no need to worry so much.

wait what? b760 cannot OC?

yep, only z series can oc. some b660 boards could oc 12th gen locked cpus, but that was via a loophole with bclk oc (rather than via increasing the multiplier which is the usual oc method), and has been locked out for 13th gen and up.

imo, when ur spending 1k+ on a cpu + mobo combo, cheaping out on the mobo isnt worth it when u could possibly hold back the cpu performance. pairing a k cpu with a non z motherboard doesnt make sense anyway, since ur losing cpu oc which is one of the very few reasons to pay the premium of the k cpu.

Planning to buy a PC next year, but after having a kid I don't think I have time to build and do the cable management. Is there some one who I can pay to do this. Warranty wise I can settle with agent myself so I don't need Aftershock or dreamcore like service. Thoughts anyone?

invaderpc does do something like this, they use local distro parts so u can liaise directly with distro for warranty. some of their builds can be good value for money that even if u diy in the end also more expensive. if u still prefer diy, can pm me.

 

[siaodi]

@NightRaven49
i really didn't know b760 cannot OC sia.. (i sound so mountain tortoise sia)
i've been with AMD for so long... i didn't notice such difference on intel.
thanks for the information.

next.. the game i play will push my CPU to 80-100% on 6 P Cores
if you like that say, means i have to at least get Asus tuf gaming pro or Strix A/F/E..
(i guess strix a/f/e?)

please advise.. TIA

added: i will most probably down volt to make it less hot.. not using custom cooling. i gonna slap t30s onto arctic lf2..

 

[nakedtons]

Anyone buying from Shopee and Lazada should text the seller first. I ordered an item from Dynacore. It has been 5 days and no update in my purchase menu. I then text them and they replied that it has no more stock and I had to ask for a refund and ordered the same item from another seller. Not sure why some sellers don't bother to update the stock quantity.

 

[NightRaven49]

the game i play will push my CPU to 80-100% on 6 P Cores
if you like that say, means i have to at least get Asus tuf gaming pro or Strix A/F/E..
(i guess strix a/f/e?)

any z790 board should do fine, just get whichever u like the looks of most. however as mentioned before, if ur just gaming, motherboard power delivery is less of a concern since most games wont load all the cores, especially that of a high end intel chip with many cores. setting an undervolt will help reduce power consumption further. also in this use case, i think the 14700k makes more sense since ur still getting 8 pcores (the 4 extra ecores of the 14900k are not much use), and u get a bit more breathing room in terms of cooling as it consumes slightly less power. u lose less than 5% fps at 1080p (basically none at 4k) for a ~20% saving, and u worry even less about power consumption.

 

[ksrokiller]

Hi, looking for new pc using mainly for gaming like starfield and alan wake, need to be high fps with ray tracing on using 1440p screen, which processor and gpu combo suitable?

 

[deepblue_82]

any z790 board should do fine, just get whichever u like the looks of most. however as mentioned before, if ur just gaming, motherboard power delivery is less of a concern since most games wont load all the cores, especially that of a high end intel chip with many cores. setting an undervolt will help reduce power consumption further. also in this use case, i think the 14700k makes more sense since ur still getting 8 pcores (the 4 extra ecores of the 14900k are not much use), and u get a bit more breathing room in terms of cooling as it consumes slightly less power. u lose less than 5% fps at 1080p (basically none at 4k) for a ~20% saving, and u worry even less about power consumption.

true to this...................

 

[bennee]

Hi! Guess it’s time for me to upgrade my rig.

current:
CPU: i7 7700k
Mobo: asus z270i I think
Ram: adata ddr3 2x8gb
Ssd: couple of ssd
Psu: should be some thing 650w gold. I remember I bought a good one.
gpu: Zotac 3060.

what do I play:
Dota, Poe, android emulators for mobile games( sometimes open 2 very lag for me already)

what I am looking for:
I don’t mind intel or amd. Prefer bang for buck. I did some research on ryzen 7 7800x3d and also amd 7800xt.

budget $2500. Any kind soul can help since it’s been a long time since I upgraded or look at computer parts.

 

[deepblue_82]

Hi! Guess it’s time for me to upgrade my rig.

current:
CPU: i7 7700k
Mobo: asus z270i I think
Ram: adata ddr3 2x8gb
Ssd: couple of ssd
Psu: should be some thing 650w gold. I remember I bought a good one.
gpu: Zotac 3060.

what do I play:
Dota, Poe, android emulators for mobile games( sometimes open 2 very lag for me already)

what I am looking for:
I don’t mind intel or amd. Prefer bang for buck. I did some research on ryzen 7 7800x3d and also amd 7800xt.

budget $2500. Any kind soul can help since it’s been a long time since I upgraded or look at computer parts.

enthusiast gaming rig, total: $933

ryzen 5 7500f + msi pro b650m-a wifi	475	pckaki
adata xpg lancer rgb 2x 16gb 6000c30 ddr5	172	tradepac
thermalright phantom spirit 120 se	51	pc themes
wd black sn850x 1tb	110	viipc
use back 3060	0
adata xpg core reactor 750w (u can used back urs if u want)	125	performance pc

u can swap for a 7800x3d if u wan
paging @NightRaven49 bro

 

[siaodi]

any z790 board should do fine, just get whichever u like the looks of most. however as mentioned before, if ur just gaming, motherboard power delivery is less of a concern since most games wont load all the cores, especially that of a high end intel chip with many cores. setting an undervolt will help reduce power consumption further. also in this use case, i think the 14700k makes more sense since ur still getting 8 pcores (the 4 extra ecores of the 14900k are not much use), and u get a bit more breathing room in terms of cooling as it consumes slightly less power. u lose less than 5% fps at 1080p (basically none at 4k) for a ~20% saving, and u worry even less about power consumption.

due to the nature of the game coding, it only runs efficiently on 6 cores and upon research, the cpu affinity batch coding and core affinity app does not work on the game when running on 14th gen.. i am unable to find more information thus i can only test things out on my own once i get my hands on the new rig.

that said, test have been done by a tuber indicating that disabling the e-cores will increase the game performance by 20% +/-.. and the CPU will still run at 80 to 100% on those specific cores.. and in such condition, building myself a 14700 or 14900 will not make a diff to power consumption cause tdp is still 253w.. i'm just capped by temperature..

added start:
i am actually more concern on whether the board i buying is enough for the stupid game i play cause i know the game will pull full power on 6 p-cores once i disable the e-cores.

so much of googling and can't find any concrete evidence showing different motherboard performance.. all benchmarks are done base on CPUs and all using the same maximus motherboard.. this is why i'm asking if anyone can recommend or at least educate me on how this vrms thing works and what is consider enough for 14900kf....

you see, everyone says the same thing.. gaming doesn't need so much vrms.. this that this that.. but that's in general.. in general, games don't pull 80-100% on 6 cores..

every time i start my game on my 3700x, my room feels like sauna cause my cpu is running at 65 to 70 degrees on my 360 nzxt..
:added ends



@ksrokiller @bennee
building yourself a suitable DIY really depends on what you're going to do, what performance are you expecting from the rig when playing the game on certain settings and what is your budget.

for my case, GPU is not important cause the game i play (performance wise) runs purely base on CPU.
you should do deep dive research on how the game you play works and what is important for the game, GPU, or CPU?

@bennee i suggest you put aside your money for your GPU and PSU and don't spent that..
build with 7800x3d with your current 3060 with good timing 32GB RAMs, 6400@CL32 or 7200@CL34..
decide later if you still think that the performance is not good enough.

+1 for @deepblue_82

 

[deepblue_82]

due to the nature of the game coding, it only runs efficiently on 6 cores and upon research, the cpu affinity batch coding and core affinity app does not work on the game when running on 14th gen.. i am unable to find more information thus i can only test things out on my own once i get my hands on the new rig.

that said, test have been done by a tuber indicating that disabling the e-cores will increase the game performance by 20% +/-.. and the CPU will still run at 80 to 100% on those specific cores.. and in such condition, building myself a 14700 or 14900 will not make a diff to power consumption cause tdp is still 253w.. i'm just capped by temperature..

added start:
i am actually more concern on whether the board i buying is enough for the stupid game i play cause i know the game will pull full power on 6 p-cores once i disable the e-cores.

so much of googling and can't find any concrete evidence showing different motherboard performance.. all benchmarks are done base on CPUs and all using the same maximus motherboard.. this is why i'm asking if anyone can recommend or at least educate me on how this vrms thing works and what is consider enough for 14900kf....

you see, everyone says the same thing.. gaming doesn't need so much vrms.. this that this that.. but that's in general.. in general, games don't pull 80-100% on 6 cores..

every time i start my game on my 3700x, my room feels like sauna cause my cpu is running at 65 to 70 degrees on my 360 nzxt..
:added ends



@ksrokiller @bennee
building yourself a suitable DIY really depends on what you're going to do, what performance are you expecting from the rig when playing the game on certain settings and what is your budget.

for my case, GPU is not important cause the game i play (performance wise) runs purely base on CPU.
you should do deep dive research on how the game you play works and what is important for the game, GPU, or CPU?

@bennee i suggest you put aside your money for your GPU and PSU and don't spent that..
build with 7800x3d with your current 3060 with good timing 32GB RAMs, 6400@CL32 or 7200@CL34..
decide later if you still think that the performance is not good enough.

+1 for @deepblue_82

if purely based on info you provided on the P core and E core.. i believe a patch will coming along to solve this.
its like when first cyberpunk came out.. now the performance has changed so much...

 

[siaodi]

if purely based on info you provided on the P core and E core.. i believe a patch will coming along to solve this.
its like when first cyberpunk came out.. now the performance has changed so much...

the game have been running since 2017? and it's been like this ever since..
i don't foresee the game's dev team to do anything about this..
it's a game coding issue..


just take it as the game will pull 80 to 100% on the 6 p.cores with e-cores disabled so what motherboard should i go for on such situation?
i don't want to depend or put hopes on the dev team..
靠自己比较踏实

 

[deepblue_82]

the game have been running since 2017? and it's been like this ever since..
i don't foresee the game's dev team to do anything about this..
it's a game coding issue..


just take it as the game will pull 80 to 100% on the 6 p.cores with e-cores disabled so what motherboard should i go for on such situation?
i don't want to depends or put hopes on the dev team..
靠自己比较踏实

since u are willing to pay then u can go for z790, to enable or disable p or e cores should be more on the mb sw side.. that i am not sure paging @NightRaven49

 

[siaodi]

since u are willing to pay then u can go for z790, to enable or disable p or e cores should be more on the mb sw side.. that i am not sure paging @NightRaven49

yea.. guarantee plus chop i'm going z790 liaoz.. just the amount of power required.. that's my most headache part..
since it's mentioned that b760 TUF can't run 12900k on half the wattage.. now... i'm super worried if strix A can run well...

 

[bennee]

enthusiast gaming rig, total: $933

ryzen 5 7500f + msi pro b650m-a wifi	475	pckaki
adata xpg lancer rgb 2x 16gb 6000c30 ddr5	172	tradepac
thermalright phantom spirit 120 se	51	pc themes
wd black sn850x 1tb	110	viipc
use back 3060	0
adata xpg core reactor 750w (u can used back urs if u want)	125	performance pc

u can swap for a 7800x3d if u wan
paging @NightRaven49 bro

Like that won’t 3060 be bottle necking my build? Haha

Btw my nzxt h210i can reuse? The last time I tried to fit in all this it was giving me hell due to it being so small.

@siaodi tot of getting 7800xt but I know the games I play don’t require them. What’s the diff between cl30,cl32,cl34? Amd cpu requires higher speed like 6000 right?