DIY PC Rig Recommendations For 2025

[final1]

Is 9700x a good cpu for all rounder, my main focus is on trading but also wanna game abit on the latest games. I would need a processor that can handle many windows opened for charting purpose. Based on my little knowledge and research these few weeks, I understand that the 3D processors are good for gaming, but not sure it's suitable for me.

You mentioned Game proofing on rams, I am not sure about this. I only understand that it depends on the motherboard n cpu on the speed eg. 6000MHz 6400MHz, and the CL.. CL30 i think should be good enough? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Many windows opened etc just make sure you got 32GB of ram at least. Nowadays that's pretty much the norm anyway.

Even a 9600X is fine for you. Cheapest i've seen it is around S$270.

 

[IntimacyR]

u can refer to the first post enthusiast gaming reco, and swap out ur gpu as desired. as long as u have a relatively modern dedicated gpu, u should good for 4 monitor support.

9700x performs well in a vacuum, but in reality where there are other competing products, the premium u pay for it is not justified for the performance on offer. for eg, u can get the 7700 non x for quite a bit cheaper while still keeping 95% of the performance of a 9700x.

it kinda depends on what ur gonna be running. x3d is good for games yes, but it only makes sense when ur gunning for max fps, like competitive shooters where responsiveness is critical. otherwise, most modern processors will deliver adequate performance for a much lower price, especially if ur gaming setup causes u to be gpu limited first before cpu limited, eg when u prioritise higher resolutions and/or graphics settings.

i think what mangocat is talking about is the capacity of ram. 16gb will still do mostly fine nowadays, but if ur looking at ddr5, 16gb kits dont cost much cheaper than 32gb kits, so 32gb is a better pick and should last u longer, especially since games are always going to become more resource intensive. ram speed matters if ur getting non x3d ryzen, though just stick to 6000mhz cl30 if u dont want to tune ur system beyond setting memory profile.

most am5 motherboards available locally will get the job done. something cheap like the msi b650m gaming plus (avoid the non plus) will be good enough for most people.

when u have a dedicated gpu, u dont use the motherboard outputs.

thanks for the comprehensive and detailed recommendation and advice. Think i will just go for 7700 then and maybe a 7800xt gpu. do you guys recommend NVIDA or AMD gpu?

 

[IntimacyR]

Many windows opened etc just make sure you got 32GB of ram at least. Nowadays that's pretty much the norm anyway.

Even a 9600X is fine for you. Cheapest i've seen it is around S$270.

thanks for the advice, yup, i will go with at least 32GB of ram.

 

[IntimacyR]

how does this looks?

AMD RYZEN 7 7700 3.8GHz 8CORE/16THREAD

MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI

THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 240 BLACK V3 ARGB AIO

TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB BLACK DDR5 6000MHz 32GB(16GBx2) CL30

MSI GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti SUPER 16G SHADOW 3X OC

WD BLACK SN850X 4TB GEN4 7300MB/s NVMe M.2

MSI A750GL-750W ATX3.0 PCIe5.0 80+ GOLD

SAMA 2351 BLACK ARGB ATX CASE

From Invader PC priced at S$2,391

 

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[BiggieZee]

I saw on aliexpress that 9800x3d cost $923. Wait for local stock availability or proceed? Review seems good but none from SG

 

[Bardiel]

I saw on aliexpress that 9800x3d cost $923. Wait for local stock availability or proceed? Review seems good but none from SG

tot local got stock already? for 959 local pc parts seller

 

[BiggieZee]

tot local got stock already? for 959 local pc parts seller

Crgroup or something, got stock.. Pc times, dyna, vii(online), techyard etc all no stock yet

 

[final1]

I saw on aliexpress that 9800x3d cost $923. Wait for local stock availability or proceed? Review seems good but none from SG

please note 9800x3d msrp is US$479.

$923 is scalper price.

 

[NightRaven49]

Even a 9600X is fine for you. Cheapest i've seen it is around S$270.

9600x for that price still doesnt make sense when u can get 7500f/7600 for $200 or less.

do you guys recommend NVIDA or AMD gpu?

nvidia if u want raytracing and dlss, amd for raw performance per dollar. intel can also be a decent choice, but doesnt really offer anything in ur price class, at least not yet.

how does this looks?

AMD RYZEN 7 7700 3.8GHz 8CORE/16THREAD
MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI
THERMALRIGHT AQUA ELITE 240 BLACK V3 ARGB AIO
TEAM T-FORCE DELTA RGB BLACK DDR5 6000MHz 32GB(16GBx2) CL30
MSI GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti SUPER 16G SHADOW 3X OC
WD BLACK SN850X 4TB GEN4 7300MB/s NVMe M.2
MSI A750GL-750W ATX3.0 PCIe5.0 80+ GOLD
SAMA 2351 BLACK ARGB ATX CASE

From Invader PC priced at S$2,391

looks alright, though u could probably diy this for about the same price too. and if not urgent, probably a good idea to wait for 50 series, if u diy u can just assemble the rest of the system and run off the 7700 igpu first for general use and trading.

I saw on aliexpress that 9800x3d cost $923. Wait for local stock availability or proceed? Review seems good but none from SG

tot local got stock already? for 959 local pc parts seller

cpus in my experience hardly ever need warranty in my experience. if u dont want to wait, then getting it at these prices might be worth it for u, but either are still grossly overpriced vs the msrp (~s$750).

 

[R6exR6]

9700x performs well in a vacuum, but in reality where there are other competing products, the premium u pay for it is not justified for the performance on offer. for eg, u can get the 7700 non x for quite a bit cheaper while still keeping 95% of the performance of a 9700x.

most am5 motherboards available locally will get the job done. something cheap like the msi b650m gaming plus (avoid the non plus) will be good enough for most people.

So, does it mean 7700 + 5090 will still be fine for 1440p120 and 4K60 AAA gaming at PT max settings without CPU bottleneck? Or I'll need the 9800X3D or 9700X to achieve that?

Also, isn't it true that in terms of physical durability of motherboards: Highend > Midrange > Budget mobos? No?

 

[NightRaven49]

So, does it mean 7700 + 5090 will still be fine for 1440p120 and 4K60 AAA gaming at PT max settings without CPU bottleneck? Or I'll need the 9800X3D or 9700X to achieve that?

highly dependent on what kind of games u play. u can maybe take a look at the games u are interested in and find benchmarks with the hardware config u want to see what kind of performance u can expect, but without specifics it can be difficult to give a definitive answer.
the 9700x has been consistently shown to be barely any faster than the 7700, so it will likely not fare much better when the 7700 becomes considered slow. anyway, if u plan to max out settings like path tracing at higher resolutions, likely ur gpu will be the limiting factor first before cpu can affect performance, so most modern cpus should be fine.

Also, isn't it true that in terms of physical durability of motherboards: Highend > Midrange > Budget mobos? No?

u never know. i sold a pc on carou with a top of the line x570i mobo that died after barely 4 years of use, which i wouldnt call a very long lifespan, especially for the price it cost back then.

 

[R6exR6]

highly dependent on what kind of games u play. u can maybe take a look at the games u are interested in and find benchmarks with the hardware config u want to see what kind of performance u can expect, but without specifics it can be difficult to give a definitive answer.
the 9700x has been consistently shown to be barely any faster than the 7700, so it will likely not fare much better when the 7700 becomes considered slow. anyway, if u plan to max out settings like path tracing at higher resolutions, likely ur gpu will be the limiting factor first before cpu can affect performance, so most modern cpus should be fine.

u never know. i sold a pc on carou with a top of the line x570i mobo that died after barely 4 years of use, which i wouldnt call a very long lifespan, especially for the price it cost back then.

Thanks for your insights on modern CPUs.

Yeah. Re mobos, my experience so far also seems to hint that price may not point to a longer-lasting mobo. From my highend Asus P8Z77 WS to a midrange Gigabyte Sniper to a budget Gigabyte GA-G41M-Combo ... all only lasted between 3 to 4 years. I think local humidity is the main culprit in shortening mobo lifespan. Hmm ... guess no point buying expensive mobo just to hope for it to last longer.

 

[IntimacyR]

After @NightRaven49 sort of "approved" my build, I decided to make a trip down to Invader PC to talk to a real person instead of pulling the trigger online. Showing the sales person my build.

I was surprised and kinda impressed by that sales person (didnt manage to get his name though. He did not comment about my build, instead, he advised me to wait for 1 to 2 weeks if I can, as today, there will be new GPU coming out. He commented, he do not know if the price will drop for my current build but he said high chance, if not in a rush, just wait another 1 to 2 weeks.

Seriously, I appreciate this kinda kindness from a local business. I think he also can tell that i am a noob..

 

[R6exR6]

if u plan to max out settings like path tracing at higher resolutions, likely ur gpu will be the limiting factor first before cpu can affect performance, so most modern cpus should be fine.

Video confirmation of your statement:

 

[soreloser]

Video confirmation of your statement:

true, but take note that if you use any form of upscaling, the CPU does matter

 

[R6exR6]

true, but take note that if you use any form of upscaling, the CPU does matter

Seems the i3 still did well with DLSS Quality for Cyberpunk and Silent Hill.

 

[Phen8210]

Video confirmation of your statement:

if you play esports game, get better CPU because during teamfights the CPU will bottlebeck and cause microstutter + frame dip which will worsen your aim.

Outside of teamfight obviously no issue, but the readings during those times dont matter too.

My zen 3 really CMI when i play marvel rival during teamfight frame drop like dogshit, after change to zen 4 so smooth during 6v6, my aim never got affected by my PC anymore.

 

[IntimacyR]

Lucky I held on.... seems like RTX5070 is the right choice.

 

[kage]

Lucky I held on.... seems like RTX5070 is the right choice.

but come to singapore, $549 becomes dunno wat scary price .....

maybe in the end can only hope old cards like 4080 price drop more.