East Coast, NYC trip

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Hi all,

I would have about 10 days. Maybe 5 days at NYC ( more days allocated here as I have a relative there ) and the rest maybe roadtrips. Hmmm Washington ? Boston ?

Previously when I was at the West Coast I really enjoyed the drives from San Diego, Anaheim, LA etc etc , Vegas to Grand Canyon.

Love those activities that we can drive to premium outlets, scenery drives, if possible we want to say from NY go to other towns before reaching Washington or Boston.

I was wondering if this can be replicated over at the east coast.

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Not really. The east coast is vastly more crowded than the west coast - if you drive from NYC to Washington, it'll be interstates and suburbs all the way. (Heck, it's cities and suburbs basically all the way from DC to Boston - look at it on GMaps and boggle.)

If you want to do a road trip over that side of the country, either fly to North Carolina and do the Blue Ridge Mountains, or fly to Miami and do the Florida Keys. If you want to go to DC or Boston (pick one - you won't be able to do both in five days and still make your flight home), use Amtrak.

I'd personally pick DC - the museums are great, there's stacks of stuff to do, and there's good restaurants and bars around Adams Morgan and Dupont Circle. (Actually, I'd really pick the Keys, because I love roadtrips.)
 

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I would love to go to the Keys but I think it's better for us to have nearer cities to NYC, not to say that we're not adventurous but we want to take things a little bit more easy.

You think 10 days for NY and DC is just nice? Slotting in Boston a bit too much?
 

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You think 10 days for NY and DC is just nice? Slotting in Boston a bit too much?

Yeah. I'm sure Boston's lovely, but you could easily burn 5 days in NYC, 3 days in DC, one day travelling between them, and one day for just farting around and doing whatever.
 

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Can visit places around Maryland and Delaware if u start from DC.
There are scenic drive can stay like cheap on ocean front.
Delaware no tax, happy outlet shopping
 

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Can visit places around Maryland and Delaware if u start from DC.
There are scenic drive can stay like cheap on ocean front.
Delaware no tax, happy outlet shopping

Should we NYC fly to Washington, then maybe from Washing DC for a scenic drive then drive to NYC or Amtrak to NYC?

Can advise some of the scenic drives near DC?
Delaware Maps & Transportation - Travel & Airport Information
*Seems like a drive to delaware is about 2 hours, abit far hor and it didn't really take me nearer to NY*

Still researching and from this link
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2089134

it seems like it's not worthwhile to do any scenic drives from Washington to NYC and as recommended here would it be a better choice to short trips from NYC or from Washington?
 
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10 days if U are doing NYC 5 days is kinda tight to do side trips.
esp when U wanna cover DC and Boston. Skipping Philly and Niagara Falls
U are not too far away from Hershey PA too.

anyway.
NYC to DC can fly if U pln on travelling 1 way consider 1 way car rental return cost.

From DC U could drive to Lewes, DE from there catch a ferry to Cape May. This would cover a small leg of the Chesapeake Country Scenic Byway.
From Cape May travel along HWY 9 to see ocean view to NYC.
this route adds alot of the time to the trip.

other drives around DC
USA Road Trip - Washington DC, Maryland, Virginia

That lonely plant post make sense esp goal is see the city and be on the way to see stuff. Adding significant time is no no. with that don't do it, its only make sense when U have the time and wanted to see things. Ppl living in states can swing by that route anyday.

Driving on Niagara on the lake is nice. enjoying the wineries.

or U can consider driving pon I95 from NYC to Boston stopping by New Haven CT (yale Uni) or see Pez Candy
 
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Hi,

Have already taken out Boston

So maybe NYC 5 , Niagara 1 , DC 3 .

Should we go by the following

arrive nyc then domestic flight to washington
> amtrak to nyc > then fly to niagara ( toronto side )

OR


arrive nyc then domestic flight to washington
> fly to niagara ( toronto side )
> fly to NYC
 
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Maybe cheaper to fly to buffalo New York and rent a car to go Niagara Ontario or to niagra falls ny. Ticket with delta usually ~usd$160.

Amtrak check schedule nite train will be good day waste time
 
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Hi all!

Don't mind me intruding but I am currently serving the Nation and I might plan to take my leave (14days) to visit New York alone.

Things I would like to ask are,

1. Do I need to apply for ESTA to get into NYC? If I do, how early should I apply for it as I believe it takes time to approve the application on their website.

2. What is the most economical way to get to NYC? My budget is 4k+. Would traveling during different seasons get me cheaper tickets too?

3. Does anyone here know how many days would it usually take to visit all the attractions of NYC? (Leave is precious)
*Saw this website and thought of giving it a go : New York City in One Day / nycgo.com

4. What are prices of food there like? Depending on my budget I might have to forgo restaurants and 'atas' places for visits.

5. If there is money for a car rental, how much (in SGD) would it roughly cost for a day or two?

6. Are streets safe at night? Brooklyn? Manhatten?

Thank you :)
 

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1.Yes u need to apply for esta.
U can apply anytime as the esta lasts for 2 years or so.

2. Some seasons are cheaper. Summer is peak travel and hotel prices would be higher too.
Check various travel websites as airlines often have promos.
U can combine your nyc trip with a stopover in another city in europe/mid east/asia.
Eg stopover in tokyo/seoul/london etc
2 for 1 kinda deal.
I think price for r/t to nyc is about $1900 or so. The chinese airlines I heard, are cheap.

3. Depends on what u want to see and do.
Lots of museums. Hard to say unless u tell us what u like.
For me, maybe 3 days as I dont shop much.

4.prices vary a lot depending on what u want to eat. U can splurge at 5star places or just eat at fast food and roadside stalls.

5. Lol prices vary but cost at least $40 a day. Look at travel websites for best prices. U might need car insurance.
Dont really need to drive in nyc.
U also have to top up gas when u return the car.

6. Depends on the neighborhood.
Generally not as safe as in sg.
Dont want to be walking out late alone at night.
 
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1.Yes u need to apply for esta.
U can apply anytime as the esta lasts for 2 years or so.

2. Some seasons are cheaper. Summer is peak travel and hotel prices would be higher too.
Check various travel websites as airlines often have promos.
U can combine your nyc trip with a stopover in another city in europe/mid east/asia.
Eg stopover in tokyo/seoul/london etc
2 for 1 kinda deal.
I think price for r/t to nyc is about $1900 or so. The chinese airlines I heard, are cheap.

3. Depends on what u want to see and do.
Lots of museums. Hard to say unless u tell us what u like.
For me, maybe 3 days as I dont shop much.

4.prices vary a lot depending on what u want to eat. U can splurge at 5star places or just eat at fast food and roadside stalls.

5. Lol prices vary but cost at least $40 a day. Look at travel websites for best prices. U might need car insurance.
Dont really need to drive in nyc.
U also have to top up gas when u return the car.

6. Depends on the neighborhood.
Generally not as safe as in sg.
Dont want to be walking out late alone at night.

1.I wanted to apply for ESTA early BUT the application form wants me to key in my flight details when I have yet to decide them. Hence, stopping me from applying. Am I able to just fake it?

2. I'm not familiar with seasons (months), so I guess those months around winter would be cheaper?
Then, would having about S$2k be good enough? I really wonder.

3. I'm not familiar myself, I plan to look-look-see-see-try-try things I guess?

4. Any average cost prices of food?

5. Thinking of getting a car in case I plan to drive to Washington DC or St Louis (have another friend there). Would be more beneficial to travel by car right? Or would doing bus/train rides be semi-fast and way cheaper?

Also those cars are left-side driving cars, anyone face problems with driving those? I'm familiar with right-side driving here in Singapore.

6. Thanks, I thought so too. Need to stay safe.

7. How much does it cost to get mobile data there? What is the process like should I want to get a prepaid plan there?

Also, are there any apps you guys would download which would make navigation cheap/free instead of having to pay extra for prepaid + GPS Navigation (for the car)?

Appreciate all the feedback I can get :)
 

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1. Don't f*** around with ESTA. Please do your due dilligence and don't get deported cause of one form.

2. Winter can be the most ex as flights can get cancelled but also because people are also going into the country since its year end break.

3. Museums are definitely DC already.

4. Average cost price depends on how much you eat and whether diner type of food suits you. A slice of pizza can cost about $2.

5. I didn't drive but it does takes some getting used to it. You can drive slower if you feel comfortable. Otherwise east coast just take Peter pan type of buses.
 

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14 days is really too long to spend in New York. At most a week only. Use the rest of the days to explore other states along the East Coast, more worth your time.

Yes, museums are better in DC, especially the Air and Space, and Natural History ones.

Fly by China Eastern if you really want to save on airfare. About SGD1.3k.

Expect a normal mainstream meal to cost a maximum of USD10. Mainstream ie. deli style like sandwiches, omelette with coffee.

I won't advise you to try driving during the winter, roads can be slippery and you have unexpected weather like snowstorms.
 

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14 days is really too long to spend in New York. At most a week only. Use the rest of the days to explore other states along the East Coast, more worth your time.

Yes, museums are better in DC, especially the Air and Space, and Natural History ones.

Fly by China Eastern if you really want to save on airfare. About SGD1.3k.

Expect a normal mainstream meal to cost a maximum of USD10. Mainstream ie. deli style like sandwiches, omelette with coffee.

I won't advise you to try driving during the winter, roads can be slippery and you have unexpected weather like snowstorms.

Yes I haven't stated how long I would be staying there as I am in the early stages of my planning, any idea which month would be good to travel then?

I saw Qatar's pricing around S$1.5k and it's a better airline if i'm not wrong.
 

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1.I wanted to apply for ESTA early BUT the application form wants me to key in my flight details when I have yet to decide them. Hence, stopping me from applying. Am I able to just fake it?

DO NOT DO THIS. Don't f*ck around with USCIS (the immigration department), they WILL put you on the next plane back.

An ESTA lasts for two years once you apply for it. You can hold on until you actually book the flights, and you can apply for it as little as a week before you fly. Better to wait until you know what your details are.

2. I'm not familiar with seasons (months), so I guess those months around winter would be cheaper?
Then, would having about S$2k be good enough? I really wonder.

Mmm... yeah, $2k (plus the cost of the flight) should get you through two weeks with plenty of room.

Winter in the northeast is kind of miserable, though. Those poor suckers are buried under two feet of snow right now - meanwhile out in California we're all like "snow? what's that? let's go surfing!". If you want to do the east coast, do it in spring/summer instead - let's say April to July. (The later in the season you go, the closer you get to hurricane season, which can put a bit of a dampener on your holiday if you want to tack on a leg in Florida.)

Update: also, the earlier you go in April or into March, the more risk you have of running into hordes of drunk college co-eds on Spring Break. This may or may not be to your liking, depending on whether your holiday itinerary involves hooking up with drunk college co-eds, but either way it'll drive the price of hotels up.

4. Any average cost prices of food?

Not as cheap as Singapore, but still pretty cheap. Call it ten bucks US for breakfast and lunch, 20-30 for dinner.

5. Thinking of getting a car in case I plan to drive to Washington DC or St Louis (have another friend there).

People: if you're going to ask questions about getting between destinations, look at Google Maps first.

America is huge. Like, it's really really big. The record for driving across it is a shade under 29 hours, and that's averaging 150 kilometres an hour. You will not be doing 150. Realistically, end-to-end across America is a four-day non-stop drive; if you wanted to make a road trip out of it, you could easily turn those four days into four weeks.

NYC to St. Louis is fourteen hours of non-stop driving, according to Google Maps. Now, I love my road-trips... but if you're going to do that trip, you should save yourself two days of travel time (and a few hundred bucks of fuel and one-way rental charges) and fly.

Would be more beneficial to travel by car right? Or would doing bus/train rides be semi-fast and way cheaper?

For NY to DC, always take the train - the Amtrak Acela service is fast and cheap. For anywhere on the SF-LA-LV triangle, you can drive, because all three legs of that triangle are great drives (okay, maybe not LA-LV). For everything else, there's Virgin America.

Generally you want to avoid the buses in America, as well; they tend to be full of crazy people and ex-convicts.

Also those cars are left-side driving cars, anyone face problems with driving those? I'm familiar with right-side driving here in Singapore.

Nah. It takes like an hour or so to really get used to it, but once you've done that it's just like riding a bike - and you'll probably be doing most of your first drive on the freeway anyway, so it's not like you have to worry about oncoming traffic or anything. My parents did a huge four-day road trip when they came over last year, and they're both the wrong side of seventy and they've never driven on the left in their lives. Went off without a hitch.

7. How much does it cost to get mobile data there? What is the process like should I want to get a prepaid plan there?

Budget about $30 for a monthly iPad plan, or $50 for a monthly voice-and-data plan. Basically you just rock up to the AT&T store, tell them you're visiting, and ask them for a GoPhone SIM; if they won't help you, go to T-Mobile, tell them you're visiting, and they'll sort you out. Try AT&T first, because their coverage is better; but T-Mobile's a lot more savvy.

Also, are there any apps you guys would download which would make navigation cheap/free instead of having to pay extra for prepaid + GPS Navigation (for the car)?

It's not free-as-in-beer, but I recommend paying the $60 or so for the Navigon USA program. It has full offline mapping, so you'll never lose your way even when you're out in the more squeal-like-a-pig parts of the country.
 
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Yes I haven't stated how long I would be staying there as I am in the early stages of my planning, any idea which month would be good to travel then?

I saw Qatar's pricing around S$1.5k and it's a better airline if i'm not wrong.

Do check out the Doha Airport review, don't penny wise pound foolish
 

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Hi guys,

Apologize to repeat this but I really need to nail this down. Booking flight for our May vacation

# of days
NYC 5 , DC 3 , Niagara 1.


JFK,NYC to DC ( flight )
*I'd be reaching in the early afternoon*

DC to NYC ( Amtrak )
*spend a few days at NYC*

JFK, NYC to Buffalo ( flight )

Buffalo back to JFK, NYC ( flight )

*I'm inserting buffalo in between my NYC visits is because I have a relative there*

Also if amtrak allows for luggage as read somewhere that certain trains do not have space for luggages?

What about internal flights?
Delta as suggested by Patryn bro. Any recommendations?
Cheers.

Thanks in advance.
 
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NYC to DC on Acela train range btw usd$150-240 1 way arrive in under 3hrs.

Fly on delta is like usd$150 round trip and it's under 1.5hrs 1 way

DC to NYC ( Amtrak )
*spend a few days at NYC*

JFK, NYC to Buffalo ( flight )

Buffalo back to JFK, NYC ( flight )

*I'm inserting buffalo in between my NYC visits is because I have a relative there*

Also if amtrak allows for luggage as read somewhere that certain trains do not have space for luggages?

What about internal flights?
Delta as suggested by Patryn bro. Any recommendations?

DC to NYC via Amtrak U taking nite train like 3am and arrive like 7am? book like 60 days in adv and its cheap like US$50.

U can check your bags read below
http://www.amtrak.com/checked-baggage

flying from NYC to DC u can do delta/United/American anyone will make u pay for checking in bags.

if U staying in Niagara Falls try Bed and Breakfast.
http://www.niagarabb.com/getassoc.cgi?1000&104140
http://www.bedandbreakfast.com/niagara-falls-ontario.html
 
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Do check out the Doha Airport review, don't penny wise pound foolish

Check what out please? Don't understand what their site is for. Looking for budget ways to fly over there.

Also, thank you for allowing me to post my questions in your thread.

Thanks.
 
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