EDMW got dietitian or nutritionist?

[rogze79]

there is one thing for sure i know is that Fat have 5 calories more compare to carb and protein is 4 per 1g
there are some who can still go over their calories needed for the day even on LCHF

They hit their goal for fat macro but they forget to hit their minimum need for protein which is essential for muscle to rebuild, repair, growth, recovery
which come to a thinking of my, if one hit the macro for fat and the calories took a huge chunk of the pool where now the remain left calories for protein to be added is much lesser or than the needed minimum amount for muscle maintenance thus that is why one end up with no muscle growth at all?
now if one hit their protein minimum but not hit the fat minimum would that also cause the effectiveness of the diet to lose it's effect?

Calories is not good way to go. If you know how the caloric number are derived in a bomb calorimeter. Its hardly accurate.
And we do not consume heat energy.

Using myself as example, eating more than 1kg of meat and eggs daily.

Eggs are primarily matched on fats and proteins. The beef I'm eating, contains about 15% fat. CARBS less than 30g.

I'm exercising regularly with weights and bands. In term of body weight, its higher than what you are doing.

Its difficult to put on excess weight once the set point is there.

 

[Checkyrmed]

so far all i know is the result of people who are using LCHF method end up getting more skinny than looking tone up but if they have higher in take of protein 150g to 200g which most did have a increase in muscle mass while lower & on the fat i mean you can use it for a Cutting phase but it will be much more tricky on the bulking phase.

most things are simple is not as complex as it seem like how you need to go in to science theory of level, i mean we are all human but we are so different lol, the human body is still far more complex but there are much for simple view at certain things,

a simple blood test will allow one to choose their next course of direction, which someone in the H&F's thread stated.

This is oversimplification on how body composition on low carb high fat diets depends on context rather than a single macronutrient ratio.

Many who appear “skinny” on LCHF are losing both fat and retained water, which can temporarily make muscles look smaller even as body fat percentage improves. When protein intake is adequate, muscle preservation is generally better on LCHF than on calorie restriction with high carbs, precisely because insulin and blood sugar fluctuations are minimized.

LCHF can absolutely support muscle gain if protein intake and resistance training are optimized. The idea that higher fat automatically limits muscle growth misunderstands how energy is utilized in a fat-adapted state. Once fat oxidation becomes efficient, dietary fat provides energy while protein supports muscle synthesis, and the body can build lean mass with stable insulin levels.

It is true that bulking is trickier on LCHF because appetite tends to normalize and overeating becomes harder, but this is a benefit for long-term metabolic health. Many athletes and bodybuilders use a higher protein moderate fat version of LCHF or targeted keto with carb refeeds around training to support hypertrophy while keeping insulin under control.

While blood tests can guide decisions, the point of understanding the underlying physiology is not to overcomplicate but to prevent wrong assumptions. What looks “simple” on the surface often hides metabolic differences that determine whether a diet supports long-term health or just short-term appearance.

 

[Raitei-Q]

Calories is not good way to go. If you know how the caloric number are derived in a bomb calorimeter. Its hardly accurate.
And we do not consume heat energy.

Using myself as example, eating more than 1kg of meat and eggs daily.

Eggs are primarily matched on fats and proteins. The beef I'm eating, contains about 15% fat. CARBS less than 30g.

I'm exercising regularly with weights and bands. In term of body weight, its higher than what you are doing.

Its difficult to put on excess weight once the set point is there.

My Deadlift and squat go up to 140kg to 150kg base on my body as i aim 1.5times
Sometimes higher if i feel top form but cutting down on that part as i have already enter my 50s

Cardio is a must aim to hit 150mins a week for the most important muacle which is the heart zone 2 to 4, 40 to 1hour, base on that days program.
I workout 4 times fix, 5th is a bonus a week

So pretty much i have tried most diets for bulk and cut with 2 blood test, once every 6 months for the past 25+ years of my life

End.of the day I still feel 170g to 200g of protein and the rest of the calories needed is spread to carbs and fats to hit the targeted calories needed still suit well for me

The part of balancing out the stuff like sodium, potassium, vit, iron, calcium with in that pool of calories will be abit tricky at times

I prefer the simple knowledge which is enough for me to have discussion with my doctors to experiment on diet and training programs

Don't want to end up paranoid that every food is there to kill u

 

[rogze79]

My Deadlift and squat go up to 140kg to 150kg base on my body as i aim 1.5times
Sometimes higher if i feel top form but cutting down on that part as i have already enter my 50s

Cardio is a must aim to hit 150mins a week for the most important muacle which is the heart zone 2 to 4, 40 to 1hour, base on that days program.
I workout 4 times fix, 5th is a bonus a week

So pretty much i have tried most diets for bulk and cut with 2 blood test, once every 6 months for the past 25+ years of my life

End.of the day I still feel 170g to 200g of protein and the rest of the calories needed is spread to carbs and fats to hit the targeted calories needed still suit well for me

The part of balancing out the stuff like sodium, potassium, vit, iron, calcium with in that pool of calories will be abit tricky at times

I prefer the simple knowledge which is enough for me to have discussion with my doctors to experiment on diet and training programs

Don't want to end up paranoid that every food is there to kill u

You have shared your training routines previously. I roughly deduced that you are very lean based on your bench.

Its not surprising given the number of runs each week.

Since you r already heavy on meat, potassium should be sufficient. However, you can find out more about how the greens can prevent absorption, and/or bind to minerals.

Salt is hardly the issue if you salt your food generously and to taste.

Just something you can consider.

 

[Raitei-Q]

You have shared your training routines previously. I roughly deduced that you are very lean based on your bench.

Its not surprising given the number of runs each week.

Since you r already heavy on meat, potassium should be sufficient. However, you can find out more about how the greens can prevent absorption, and/or bind to minerals.

Salt is hardly the issue if you salt your food generously and to taste.

Just something you can consider.

no longer using running as a cardio these days, 50s need to consider ur knees so max resist walk is what i do these day with a heart monitor to let me know which zone i am at, ideally zone 2 and 3 is my aim but still sweating much which why i added a bit more sodium and potassium to my daily diet to balance out.

other than that is more of maintain these day, occasionally if there is new diet out which is not too suss, i will test it out and see how i feel

a bit on the lazy side for meal prep so i just eat out, just choosing the lesser sinful food enjoy life while maintaining fit & healthy

 

[Mecisteus]

no longer using running as a cardio these days, 50s need to consider ur knees so max resist walk is what i do these day with a heart monitor to let me know which zone i am at, ideally zone 2 and 3 is my aim but still sweating much which why i added a bit more sodium and potassium to my daily diet to balance out.

other than that is more of maintain these day, occasionally if there is new diet out which is not too suss, i will test it out and see how i feel

a bit on the lazy side for meal prep so i just eat out, just choosing the lesser sinful food enjoy life while maintaining fit & healthy

If running form is good, not overtraining and not obese, the knees are more likely to sustain till older age.

Many ang mos from r/running continue running past 70s. Just saying.

At your age and beyond the regular blood tests, can consider doing at least 1 of the following

CTCA, CT Calcium, CIMT, Echo stress, DXA scan, colonoscopy

 

[Raitei-Q]

If running form is good, not overtraining and not obese, the knees are more likely to sustain till older age.

Many ang mos from r/running continue running past 70s. Just saying.

At your age and beyond the regular blood tests, can consider doing at least 1 of the following

CTCA, CT Calcium, CIMT, Echo stress, DXA scan, colonoscopy

Did the treadmill test where they tap wire and cup all over your chest as well, didn't find anything sinister ( heng ah)

Not that confident on the running/jogging part so i will stick to the max resist walk and adjust speed to reach the zone i am aimming for but the last 15 to 20mins i would stick to interval runninh to reach zone 4 and 5

Adjustment to diet to fuel the workout ( so i can continue having cheat meal with out feeling sinful )

 

[randyap]

If you do not even read it. You cannot discuss anything. ur logic is warped.

You mention and support the study whole heartedly. which I assumed you have gone through it.

I brought the methodology used which you cannot see the flaws.

I bring up the crux of be study, red meat. And tell you the classification of red meat is an issue. you still do not understand.

What else can you understand?

Your logic totally dismiss epidiomology as a whole. You know how many people got Nobel prize based on epidiomology studies? Which world are you living in?

Which is why I say, you cannot even comprehend the basis of epidiomology. So i don't expect you be able to spew anything other than rubbish. Perhaps you can try to understand and observe why red meat carnivore in the animal kingdom all live a short life. There is no exception. This is way easier to understand for u.

 

[rogze79]

Your logic totally dismiss epidiomology as a whole. You know how many people got Nobel prize based on epidiomology studies? Which world are you living in?

Which is why I say, you cannot even comprehend the basis of epidiomology. So i don't expect you be able to spew anything other than rubbish. Perhaps you can try to understand and observe why red meat carnivore in the animal kingdom all live a short life. There is no exception. This is way easier to understand for u.

Up till now, I'm not sure if I should continue engaging with an ignoramus like you.

It seems that you always like to side step qns directly at you. You just switch topics all the times.

 

[pokipoki08]

Deficiency B6 B9 B12 > high homocysteine > cardiovascular narrow/hard artery > cholesterol heart attack stroke

Diabetics on METFORMIN need more B12 as Metformin causes reduced absorption

Preferred forms
B6 PYRIDOXAL 5-PHOSPHATE aka P5P, not more than 10-50mg daily due to neuropathy risk
B9 L-METHYLFOLATE or L-5-METHYLTETRAHYDROFOLATE, not the cheap folic acid
B12 METHYLCOBALAMIN

Low B12 affect serotonin, dopamine which regulate mood.
Mental : depression, anxiety, psychosis, dementia, delirium, other psychiatric disorders.
Symptoms : apathy, agitation, impaired concentration, insomnia, persecutory delusions, auditory, visual hallucinations, disorganized thought processes, mood lability

sorry couldn't find the big diabetes thread

 

[ninelives]

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