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Hi, I'm looking around to get a kukri with a total length of around 14 inch or so. Looking for one that is meant to be used, not a collector's piece. Want to use it for camping. Most of the kukris I see around have a total length of 17 inches, too long for my taste. Have a budget of around $50, and I don't mind secondhand, as long as the blade is decent. Anyone can recomended any shops?

Also, is it legal to own one in sg? As in sharpened for actual use. (I know, most probably no :( ) If not, doesn't matter, as I'm studying in aus for now :p

Going to be tough to find a khukri at that price, used or new.
 

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So what prices would I be looking at? And are there any shops that you would recommend?

I can't put URLs here but do a search for Himalayan Imports... Those are true forged Khukris but they don't come cheap, the smallest (Sirupatis) start at USD85 before shipping. The Ang Kholas are the real deal and its USD100 and above. Blade is spring steel, it will rust so you have to keep it oiled. If you want a Khukri styled blade Cold Steel produces at least 2 models. I don't really recommend Khukris as a camp knife. Whether you're in Australia or Singapore you can be better served with a 12incher or less fixed blade for camping. The Khukris are stylised choppers and nothing more. If you are jungle bashing you'll realise the thich blade do not work for clearing brush and undergrowth. Some will disagree with me but that's my opinion and yes I have handled one before... A parang or golok (shorter) is more effective. Sometimes it's better to get a proper tool but I can understand why. It is a very attractive looking blade.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but khikris are prohibited as the are being used by the Gurkhas.

Same thing as bayonets being used for the army = prohibited. Not to mention they are a PITA to sharpen and like lonerider said, a nice longer blade should be better.
 

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Wow, so ex... I'm just looking for something that works, not for some very very good quality knives... Mainly want the kukri cause it can double up as axe to chop wood, and can use to help dig a bit as well.

Anyway, so anyone knows if it is legal to have a sharp fixed blade in sg for camping?
 

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Anyone here knows how do I go about sharpening a spring steel blade knife?
 

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Anyone here knows how do I go about sharpening a spring steel blade knife?

No difference from sharpening other steels... In fact it is easier to sharpen than modern steels like S30V, SG2 and VG10. These usually need ceramic or diamond sharpeners. Spring steel (usually 5160 steel) is very tough and can take a lot of abuse during chopping but it is not very hard. I've sharpened a Ranger RD in 5160 using normal sharpening stones you can buy from hardware stores (also known as Carborundum stone and India stone).
 

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Thanks! For an oil coat, would WD40 do? Also, sandpaper can further sharpen the edge too?
 

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Thanks! For an oil coat, would WD40 do? Also, sandpaper can further sharpen the edge too?

Singer oil is better... WD40 dries up too fast, it's good as rust remover but not as a protectant. Is the knife a large chopper? If you are going to do a lot of chopping it is not necessary to go beyond 600 grit. In fact you'll realise that too polished an edge will not perform as good as you expect. IMO super polished edges works better on kitchen knives where you do a lot of push cuts.
 

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Hmmm, it's just a blade and not a chopper... I've just got the carborundum stone and how do I know it's 600grit?
 

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Hmmm, it's just a blade and not a chopper... I've just got the carborundum stone and how do I know it's 600grit?

They don't make carborundum at higher than that... At least not that I've seen in SG. Practice with something cheap first. Water the stone, I use my stone under a trickle of water (at the kitchen sink). You do not need a fancy setup to get a shaving sharp blade especially with spring steel which is why a lot of people prefer it over stainless steel.
 

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Thanks! For an oil coat, would WD40 do? Also, sandpaper can further sharpen the edge too?

Dont use WD40 as a coating haha.you can use singer oil as someone said below.there are also some specialised sword oils u can use on your blades.dont use sandpaper for sharpening.you can invest in a spyderco sharpmaker or just a regular sharpening stone if you dont need a precise edge.for choppers,actually a very fine edge is not good as it will chip easily.
 

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Dont use WD40 as a coating haha.you can use singer oil as someone said below.there are also some specialised sword oils u can use on your blades.dont use sandpaper for sharpening.you can invest in a spyderco sharpmaker or just a regular sharpening stone if you dont need a precise edge.for choppers,actually a very fine edge is not good as it will chip easily.

Carborundum is essentially silicon carbide (SiC). Sandpaper uses the same thing too and by this I mean the green and grey stuff; not glass paper which is used for wood. My DnT teacher still haunts my dreams... :s13:

Can you sharpen a knife on it? Sure you can but in the long run they cost more. A cheap stone cost $5, $2 if Daiso still sells them. Paper cost 50c to 70c per piece and they don't last long. That and stones are plain easier to use. For spring steel cheap stones will do but once you go up to S30V, S60V, S90V and ZDP189 it does not work too well. You'll need ceramics (like the ones on the Sharpmaker) or diamonds like on those DMT hones. Expensive stuff... VG10 seems a bit more forgiving. The Sharpmaker is good but if your knife doesn't have a recurve a stone (SiC, diamond or ceramic) will be more practical. Sharpmaker only comes in 2 angle setting. On a stone you set the angle. Sword oils... Mostly cheap mineral oil with additives for smell. Not worth it IMO. Singer (cheap and available)... For cutting food its plain mineral oil (food safe, cheap, get it at Ikea).

VG10 is a good choice for a first knife... Spring steel and most high carbons too. Want to practice? Get a SAK... Damn steel on those sharpens easily, dun stay sharp too long though.
 

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So a spring steel HRC55 should do just fine with the hardware shop sharpening stones? Also, does Ikea still sell mineral oil?
 

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So a spring steel HRC55 should do just fine with the hardware shop sharpening stones? Also, does Ikea still sell mineral oil?

Yep sharpening stones should be good.Hrc55 should be soft enough for beginners.just try to keep a constant angle on it ^^.
 

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legal to collect knife here meh? that time i buy a butterfly knife from overseas. in the end kana caught. :(
 

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legal to collect knife here meh? that time i buy a butterfly knife from overseas. in the end kana caught. :(

Butterfly knives,automatic knives,gravity knives(butterfly knives are considered gravity knives),throwing knives,khukris are some of the many types of knives that are actually banned in singapore.just check around 1st before you order and you'll be fine.
 
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Butterfly knives,automatic knives,gravity knives(butterfly knives are considered gravity knives),throwing knives,khukris are some of the many types of knives that are actually banned in singapore.just check around 1st before you order and you'll be fine.

Khukris are not banned...
 
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