Engineers pls share your insight on why working overseas is not for you

[Aunt Dino]

Cos the requirement is to stay in TW for at least 10 months in a year that’s why

but everything is provided for

My 2 cents on this is that moving abroad for work is a big consideration. Whether can adapt to the culture there, cannot speak and read Chinese well, away from family, etc. Maybe better if can bring parents along

Everything provided for also must see what type of accommodation, eat company canteen food? How about transportation? Working hours? Leave?

Scared go there later not what we expect then how? If it is a reputable international MNC then no need so scared, if local family business then ppl will be more wary

 

[AcquiT]

ya had a fresh grad solid engineering BG from NUS ask for 4.8k I say ok then he ask if he can bring his gf over at my cost?

needless to say he rejected my offer

then another memorable one 34yo ask if I can uproot his entire fam over?

Let me guess
If from here to Tw

Shld b 1 of the C in east side

Anyway this industry quite cham
Either u stucked here in the company or oversea
Especially if niche department..worst

No easy to find coz local not much such companies

 

[saikangwarrior]

Taiwan so many jobless grads. Sinkie is faster better cheaper?

 

[Pocoyoz]

tw , not USA or Europe


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[zhoholang]

ya had a fresh grad solid engineering BG from NUS ask for 4.8k I say ok then he ask if he can bring his gf over at my cost?

needless to say he rejected my offer

then another memorable one 34yo ask if I can uproot his entire fam over?

I have attended Taiwan MNC interview . I pmed u.. pay less than SG , work harder than SG , leave lesser than SG .. whole meeting and work in chinese .. oh ya I also interviewed together with other FT candidates want to bring family to TW LOL..

I did consider working in TW however I scared to die in a place not my motherland. Package still save lesser than SG leh due to low pay

 

[Aunt Dino]

Terms and benefits aside, the person taking up this job offer should be quite daring type. Already not many of such ppl around + still need to look for one that fits the job requirements. So not so easy to hire successfully too

 

[theMKR]

lol high level meh

NUS offering up to 6.2k nia with experience

https://www.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/...m_source=google_jobs_apply&utm_medium=organic

academia pay sucks huan....

 

[aceminer]

I got masters in EEE from no use Singapore keyi comment mah

 

[ahboy82]

lol high level meh

NUS offering up to 6.2k nia with experience

https://www.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/...m_source=google_jobs_apply&utm_medium=organic

Uproot to yr company can meet chiobu tw mei mei like min min mah?

 

[Nekorare]

Sinkie kia are too comfortable in Singapore and even if the stint can really open up their careers, most will think short to medium term only and most come to the conclusion the long term payoff isn't worth it.

Add to that most in SG with the right Engineering background aren't proficient in Mandarin at the level required to operate in TW. So many people that did Higher Chinese can't even conduct a basic business meeting in Mandarin.

So it's a case of the reward not being sufficient for them to be willing to stay out of their comfort zone in an active discomfort zone.

 

[aceminer]

Sinkie kia are too comfortable in Singapore and even if the stint can really open up their careers, most will think short to medium term only and most come to the conclusion the long term payoff isn't worth it.

Add to that most in SG with the right Engineering background aren't proficient in Mandarin at the level required to operate in TW. So many people that did Higher Chinese can't even conduct a basic business meeting in Mandarin.

So it's a case of the reward not being sufficient for them to be willing to stay out of their comfort zone in an active discomfort zone.

Language barrier is an immense challenge. Imagine reading office documents in Chinese. Omg I will resign on the spot

 

[gnoes85]

I have attended Taiwan MNC interview . I pmed u.. pay less than SG , work harder than SG , leave lesser than SG .. whole meeting and work in chinese .. oh ya I also interviewed together with other FT candidates want to bring family to TW LOL..

I did consider working in TW however I scared to die in a place not my motherland. Package still save lesser than SG leh due to low pay

I have 15 years semicon experience. Once I also joking then test water apply to be engineer there, really low pay even with relocation packages.
Only director and above got swee packages. VP level got god-like package.

 

[fade_white]

Semicon engineer the job not for people do one . I’m never going back

 

[Clarence NMT]

Btw should target those single and dun have own hdb or other house in sg will have higher chance dub mind work in oversea or migrate

 

[pcpua84]

I work in semiconductor & in R&D department, about 70% of my uni intern mention that they will try to avoid engineering job when they graduate

 

[Min Min]

I work in semiconductor & in R&D department, about 70% of my uni intern mention that they will try to avoid engineering job when they graduate

I talking chipmaker ley bruh
the world all need chips
just look at the gadgets you using
you think mag 7 can survive with no chips ma

 

[dreamcast18]

I had a hard time getting people to work in the semiconductor Industry

good benefits etc and overseas exposure and yet don’t get enough fresh nor qualified experienced engineers/researchers coming forward

And then we have the fresh grads with no family burdens also refuse to get out of SG to venture for a good career ahead

So it’s not really no jobs it’s more like people have many conditions they set for themselves, how to make money or get a good career if not ready for change?

best 20 yrs of my life as EECS grad. Took VLSI and get to hang with Jensen, get to travel the world for work...best gig ever. lifetime frequent flier/hotel...what is there not to like?

maybe me old unker...now this gen need WFH.

anyways semicon is no work life balance lah...must be able to accept it..put in some dues..then go do something else after.

 

[Min Min]

Btw should target those single and dun have own hdb or other house in sg will have higher chance dub mind work in oversea or migrate

I target either fresh grads also want bring gf along one
Siao so many twmm there dunno why bring gf zuo simi lol

 

[Clarence NMT]

I target either fresh grads also want bring gf along one
Siao so many twmm there dunno why bring gf zuo simi lol

But consider currency strength, dun think can earn alot compare sg, if us most ppl likely ones

 

[Min Min]

best 20 yrs of my life as EE grad. Took VLSI and get to hang with Jensen, get to travel the world for work...best gig ever. lifetime frequent flier/hotel...what is there not to like?

maybe me old unker...now this gen need WFH.

anyways semicon is no work life balance lah...must be able to accept it..put in some dues..then go do something else after.

now still in semicon?

trillon dollar chipmaker industry only Singapore lang hiam sia I also dunno why
bonus gao gao somemore