Five changes to CPF rules

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Putting aside opinions, just want to know whether factually that’s true?

i.e., even though CPF SA top up is set aside and can’t be withdrawn, by virtue of making up the FRS, the restricted amount will count towards FRS first allowing the other non restricted amount to be withdrawn.
This is correct as I understand it.
The “concern” that such SA top-ups (and accrued interests) under the RSTU scheme will be stuck and cannot be withdrawn at age 55 (or after) is relevant mainly for those who wish to have only BRS in their RA and use property pledge to withdraw the rest at say age 55.
For those who are set to have at least FRS in your RA at age 55, such SA top-ups in the past will not affect withdrawals from OA/SA.
(it will affect you if you happen to plan to use part of your RA for property but that’s a rather quirky choice unlikely to be used by most).
 

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I welcome the topup for MA to the BHS limit though and it is no longer tied to the annual limit of $37741.
I shall transfer $ to MA on 1st Jan 2022 to hit the BHS limit for 2022 in order to generate more interest and also for tax relief.
My guess for 2022 BHS limit is $66,150 (5% increment).
 

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Should the top-up to MA be done on 1st Jan or 31st Jan? I seem to have read that in either case, the interest gained will be the same since CPF only computes interest based on the balance at the end of that month.
 

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I'm using my MA for some insurance policies. Hence, I intend to keep topping up my MA every time the BHS is raised (~$3k) and after my insurance deductions (~$4k).

With the maxed out MA, any additional MA from employment will overflow to my OA to earn the extra 2.5% interest. Overall is quite a significant saving in income tax and decent return in OA.
 

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So now I can top up my wife and son's MA and get tax relief? Sound like a good deal. ;)
 

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Been reading this thread and CPF website, still a bit confused - appreciate if anyone can clarify:

My situation:
1. Annual contributions from employer+self are at the max (~37k).
2.Have not yet reached FRS overall
3. Have not yet reached BHS overall

What I currently do (old rules):
4. Top-up 7k/yr into SA (maximise tax relief)
I don’t contribute anything to family members CPF , or receive contributions from anyone - spouse could be an option, but as she earns income there is no tax relief; neither of us have parents or siblings entolled in CPF.

Under new rules - tell me if I’ve got this right…
5. I can increase my top up to 8k/yr (yay!)
6. Unclear…do I now have the option of putting this top-up into MA instead of SA? Or does constraint #1 still prevent this?

Thanks much in advance!
 

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Should the top-up to MA be done on 1st Jan or 31st Jan? I seem to have read that in either case, the interest gained will be the same since CPF only computes interest based on the balance at the end of that month.
For me, as my SA has already hit the FRS, I will have to top up my MA on 1Jan22 or before my Dec salary is credited into CPF in Jan 22. Then, my MA contributions (salary) will overflow to OA. In that way, I will be able to get tax relief for my MA topup. And also, I can also do a topup whenever my MA a/c is deducted for Eldershield premiums etc.
 
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Been reading this thread and CPF website, still a bit confused - appreciate if anyone can clarify:

My situation:
1. Annual contributions from employer+self are at the max (~37k).
2.Have not yet reached FRS overall
3. Have not yet reached BHS overall

What I currently do (old rules):
4. Top-up 7k/yr into SA (maximise tax relief)
I don’t contribute anything to family members CPF , or receive contributions from anyone - spouse could be an option, but as she earns income there is no tax relief; neither of us have parents or siblings entolled in CPF.

Under new rules - tell me if I’ve got this right…
5. I can increase my top up to 8k/yr (yay!)
6. Unclear…do I now have the option of putting this top-up into MA instead of SA? Or does constraint #1 still prevent this?

Thanks much in advance!
I think you can only do a top up of max 8K to your MA a/c and also get a tax relief on that. You won't be able to top up your SA a/c with cash because the AL still applies in this case. But you can do a OA to SA transfer to hit the FRS asap if that is one of your goals too.
 
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Been reading this thread and CPF website, still a bit confused - appreciate if anyone can clarify:

My situation:
1. Annual contributions from employer+self are at the max (~37k).
2.Have not yet reached FRS overall
3. Have not yet reached BHS overall

What I currently do (old rules):
4. Top-up 7k/yr into SA (maximise tax relief)
I don’t contribute anything to family members CPF , or receive contributions from anyone - spouse could be an option, but as she earns income there is no tax relief; neither of us have parents or siblings entolled in CPF.

Under new rules - tell me if I’ve got this right…
5. I can increase my top up to 8k/yr (yay!)
6. Unclear…do I now have the option of putting this top-up into MA instead of SA? Or does constraint #1 still prevent this?

Thanks much in advance!

From my understanding of the CPF rules, you can still top up any amount to your MA up to the BHS cap or your SA up to the FRS cap to enjoy the higher interest rates (note that the cash is locked up until 65 years old).

However, overall you will get a maximum of $7k and $8k tax deductions for 2021 and 2022 respectively for your CPF cash top-ups into MA and SA.
 

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Now parents can have tax relief by topping up kids’ CPF SA/MA accounts. Great news for parents, long overdue.

bummer. apparently, not eligible.
 
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Now parents can have tax relief by topping up kids’ CPF SA/MA accounts. Great news for parents, long overdue.
Wow, that’s a big change I hadn’t realized.

Topping up into kids’ MA in particular now becomes quite attractive (more so than SA…at least the MA funds can be partially accessed & used when needed, without fully locking up finds until they are retired).
 

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From my understanding of the CPF rules, you can still top up any amount to your MA up to the BHS cap or your SA up to the FRS cap to enjoy the higher interest rates (note that the cash is locked up until 65 years old).

However, overall you will get a maximum of $7k and $8k tax deductions for 2021 and 2022 respectively for your CPF cash top-ups into MA and SA.
Thanks (also to @doratch ) , yes that’s what it sounded like.

If so then this is a huge help to people in my position. I am in no hurry to hit FRS or any of the limits - the priority for me is tax relief, considering my current tax bracket. For this same reason I am not doing OA to SA transfers , as these would accelerate reaching FRS and therefore limit my future years’ tax relief availability.

Changing the tax relief limit from 7k to 8k is a small help. But removing the existing limitation whereby I can now top-up into MA (8k/year at a time..until hitting BHS), then after that switching back to topping up SA (until hitting FRS), significantly increases the number of years that I’ll be able to avail of the tax relief.
 
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Should the top-up to MA be done on 1st Jan or 31st Jan? I seem to have read that in either case, the interest gained will be the same since CPF only computes interest based on the balance at the end of that month.
You only need to beat the compulsory contribution timing. For example, if your employer processes CPF contributions so that they hit approximately on the 10th day of the following month, try making your MA Voluntary Contribution via PayNow QR on January 8.
So now I can top up my wife and son's MA and get tax relief? Sound like a good deal. ;)
Wife if she has very limited income or is handicapped. A child is not an eligible family member recipient for tax relief.
Been reading this thread and CPF website, still a bit confused - appreciate if anyone can clarify:
My situation:
1. Annual contributions from employer+self are at the max (~37k).
2.Have not yet reached FRS overall
3. Have not yet reached BHS overall
What I currently do (old rules):
4. Top-up 7k/yr into SA (maximise tax relief)
I don’t contribute anything to family members CPF , or receive contributions from anyone - spouse could be an option, but as she earns income there is no tax relief; neither of us have parents or siblings entolled in CPF.
Under new rules - tell me if I’ve got this right…
5. I can increase my top up to 8k/yr (yay!)
Yes.
6. Unclear…do I now have the option of putting this top-up into MA instead of SA? Or does constraint #1 still prevent this?
You will now have the option to split the $8,000 any way you wish between MA and SA. You can put all $8,000 into MA, all $8,000 into SA, or anything in between. Starting January 1, 2022, the CPF Annual Limit will no longer apply to Voluntary Contributions to MA. (The CPF Annual Limit already does not apply to SA top ups.)

$8,000 is only the tax relief limit. You can deposit more dollars if you wish, up to the BHS (MA) and FRS (SA).
I think you can only do a top up of max 8K to your MA a/c and also get a tax relief on that. You won't be able to top up your SA a/c with cash because the AL still applies in this case. But you can do a OA to SA transfer to hit the FRS asap if that is one of your goals too.
No, that's not correct. The CPF Annual Limit does not apply to SA top ups.
Now parents can have tax relief by topping up kids’ CPF SA/MA accounts. Great news for parents, long overdue.
No, that's not correct. Children (and nieces, nephews, grandchildren, etc.) are not eligible family members for tax relief purposes. IRAS provides that list here. Some qualifying family members (spouses for example) are subject to conditions. There is no announcement about any change to this list, so you can assume that there's no tax relief for you when you deposit funds in your child's MA.

However, if you hand dollars to your child who then deposits those dollars in his/her MA, your child may qualify for his/her own tax relief. Tax relief isn't common for minor children unless your child happens to have a successful modeling career, for example.
 

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Thanks (also to @doratch ) , yes that’s what it sounded like.

If so then this is a huge help to people in my position. I am in no hurry to hit FRS or any of the limits - the priority for me is tax relief, considering my current tax bracket. For this same reason I am not doing OA to SA transfers , as these would accelerate reaching FRS and therefore limit my future years’ tax relief availability.

Changing the tax relief limit from 7k to 8k is a small help. But removing the existing limitation whereby I can now top-up into MA (8k/year at a time..until hitting BHS), then after that switching back to topping up SA (until hitting FRS), significantly increases the number of years that I’ll be able to avail of the tax relief.
But you mentioned that your annual contribution has already hit $37,741and I presumed that you will be hitting it for the years to come. If that is the case, I don't think you will be able to make any cash contribution to your SA (be it RSTU or VC) because the AL applies. Any cash contribution to your SA will be automatically refunded back to you the following year in Feb-Mar. That was what happened to me last year.
 

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No, that's not correct. Children (and nieces, nephews, grandchildren, etc.) are not eligible family members for tax relief purposes. IRAS provides that list here. Some qualifying family members (spouses for example) are subject to conditions. There is no announcement about any change to this list, so you can assume that there's no tax relief for you when you deposit funds in your child's MA.

bummer...

here is what common sense is wrong about family members or loved ones for tax relief in IRAS.
 
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I should add that you can use your MediSave Account funds to pay for your child's insurance premiums and medical bills (to the extent MediSave can be used), then quickly swoop in with a Voluntary Contribution to your own MA to qualify for tax relief, subject to the $8,000/year maximum.
 

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There is no tax relief for top-ups to children's MA. The revised legislation restricts family members (for tax relief) to spouse, sibling, parent, parent-in-law, grandparent or grandparent-in-law, subject to further restrictions like income and disability for spouse and sibling.
 

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But you mentioned that your annual contribution has already hit $37,741and I presumed that you will be hitting it for the years to come. If that is the case, I don't think you will be able to make any cash contribution to your SA (be it RSTU or VC) because the AL applies. Any cash contribution to your SA will be automatically refunded back to you the following year in Feb-Mar. That was what happened to me last year.
No, that's not correct. The CPF Annual Limit already does not apply to SA and RA top ups. The CPF Annual Limit does apply to:

* compulsory contributions
* Voluntary Contributions to MA before 2022
* "all three account" Voluntary Contributions
 
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