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https://mothership.sg/2021/10/northshore-plaza-preview/

Residents flock to Northshore Plaza I, Punggol's latest mall, on opening day​

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Thanks for being the filter for SengKang & Hougang
IMHO.
Based on the wind direction, the big chimneys at Pasir Gudang blows directly into the middle of Sengkang most of the time during the night.
 

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Frontline being Punggol, from what I gathered on the ground so far, the 'smell' usually starts late at night until early morning.

There is usually no smell between that.
 

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Frontline being Punggol, from what I gathered on the ground so far, the 'smell' usually starts late at night until early morning.

There is usually no smell between that.
IMHO.
The visible chimneys are not smack in the middle of Punggol
They are closer to the fringe of Punggol.
Of course North Shore is in the way.

Your information from the ground just affirmed the wind data.
The wind direction of the visible large chimneys flow pass the fringe of Punggol.
The no smell is due to the wind direction.

The more worrying would be those airborne that have no smell.
 

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Unless some expert decides to conduct a study in Punggol, NEA will always default to their 'no issue' statement. I know for sure at least 6 months when the wind is blowing towards us, it'll be worse.

The only other time when I do smell something in the air was during the massive pollution in Pasir Gudang where people were getting poisoned. The other sign is the worsening water condition (from fishermen on Singapore's side) but there isn't any test conducted for this.
 

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IMHO.
The wind direction also depends on the time of the day.
Punggol East less than Punggol West taking mid way point at Waterway Point.
 

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Thanks for being the filter for SengKang & Hougang
Totally non-scientific, just anyhow say sia.
Go calculate how much air a person breathes in per day, multiply the number of persons living in punggol. See how much air can it filter.
 

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Unless some expert decides to conduct a study in Punggol, NEA will always default to their 'no issue' statement. I know for sure at least 6 months when the wind is blowing towards us, it'll be worse.

The only other time when I do smell something in the air was during the massive pollution in Pasir Gudang where people were getting poisoned. The other sign is the worsening water condition (from fishermen on Singapore's side) but there isn't any test conducted for this.
The air pollution will always be a "feature" of Punggol. The main reason being that Pasir Gudang is being developed as a heavy industrial zone which is constantly expanding.

And you know NEA's attitude towards pollution.

Public: What's the cause of the haze?
NEA: Lack of wind to blow the haze away.
(Instead of getting and addressing the root of the problem)

PAP just wants to hide the issue under the carpet and probably wouldn't want the public to be alarmed even if the air and water condition in Punggol is bad.
 

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The air pollution will always be a "feature" of Punggol. The main reason being that Pasir Gudang is being developed as a heavy industrial zone which is constantly expanding.

And you know NEA's attitude towards pollution.

Public: What's the cause of the haze?
NEA: Lack of wind to blow the haze away.
(Instead of getting and addressing the root of the problem)

PAP just wants to hide the issue under the carpet and probably wouldn't want the public to be alarmed even if the air and water condition in Punggol is bad.
Read this

https://pages.malaysiakini.com/johorriver/en/

Troubled waters:
Why Pasir Gudang rivers are dying​




Wastewater being discharged into Sungai Buluh, Pasir Gudang. It is not illegal for industrial factories to discharge wastewater as long as it remains within the legal limits set by the Environmental Quality Regulations 2009.

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Turbid waters, foul smells​

Sungai Tukang Batu – the most polluted river in Malaysia according to the 2017 EQR – was inaccessible, as it runs down the middle of an industrial zone which has been covered up.

https://pages.malaysiakini.com/johorriver/video/sg-buluh-1080x1080-web-fps24.mp4

https://pages.malaysiakini.com/johorriver/video/sg-kim-kim-1080x1080-web-fps24.mp4

https://pages.malaysiakini.com/johorriver/video/pg-resident-640x640.mp4

Don’t use the water​

While the state of the rivers in Pasir Gudang is worrying, Zaki said that polluted rivers usually do not directly affect residents’ health, as they do not use the river water directly.

Marine life destroyed​

While the health of the Seletar Orang Asli tribe may not be affected, the state of the rivers nevertheless eats into their livelihood.

https://pages.malaysiakini.com/johorriver/video/orang-seleter-640x640.mp4

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One of the first to relocate to Kampung Kuala Masai from Stulang Laut more than 20 years ago was Lag Bacik.

Lag, who is now over 70 years old, still remembers that when she first moved, the waters of Sungai Masai and the Johor Straits surrounding the village were clear, and filled with fish and crabs.

The waters have long since turned murky. She lamented that even if they were to find mussels in the water now, they would be dead.

She and her 27-year-old son Michael claimed that during the dry season, black water can be seen coming down Sungai Masai heading towards the Johor Straits.

The villagers also used to go to the mangrove area in Sungai Masai to catch crabs, but Lag said they no longer dare to set foot in the river.

“Sometimes we would get wounds and scabs on our feet. We do not dare (to walk in the river anymore),” she claimed.
 

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Gan pointed out that there was a lack of foresight in the initial development of the industrial town, which contributed to the pollution concerns Pasir Gudang is facing today.

Back then, she claimed, the field of city planning was not very established in the country, so development plans were usually carried out by land surveyors and architects.

The initial development had focused so heavily on the industrial zones that nearly no attention was paid to future development, such as the nearby residential areas which began popping up nearby to accommodate those attracted by the burgeoning job opportunities.
 

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Actually Sungai Kim Kim, Buluh, Perembi and Masai isn't too far away from us, can read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Kim_Kim_River_toxic_pollution

I had the impression that the strong water currents in the straits should be able to 'wash' away the contaminants.

However I watched a documentary recently from people fishing in Singapore waters saying that quality of marine life has dropped considerably.

Nevertheless, I've checked with NEA before and they assure me it's clean over our end.


This part of the Wiki is worrying

Investigation, clearance works and arrestment of perpetrators[edit]​

Through investigations, it was believed that the chemical wastes were dumped from a lorry tanker into the Kim Kim River in wee hours, on the same day before the victims fell ill.[5][16] Agencies dispatched for the cleaning-up operation of the polluted river collected 2.43 tonnes of chemical waste on the day the incident was reported.[17] The cleaning works, however, worsened the chemical reaction, as the contractor engaged was not experienced in dealing with chemical wastes.[18] A Chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear (CBRN) team from the 12th Squadron of the Royal Army Engineers Regiment of Malaysian Armed Forces was later dispatched to assist in the chemical cleaning efforts together with a Hazmat team.[19][20][21]

The Johor Department of Environment (DOE) arrested an owner of a chemical factory in Kulai on 10 March followed by another arrest involving shredded waste factory owner and one of its workers in Taman Pasir Puteh on the following day after a series of investigations.[22] With the arrests, the DOE completed its investigation papers and were sent to the public prosecutor for further action, with the investigators also have identified the illegally dumped chemical as marine oil that emitted flammable methane and benzene fumes. The oil is categorised as a scheduled waste and needs proper disposal due to its hazardous nature.[22][23] On 17 March, nine more people were arrested by the police in connection to the case; two arrested in Johor Bahru while seven were arrested outside the Johor Bahru area.[24] Two key suspects, believed to be instrumental in arranging for the transportation of the toxic substances, were arrested on 19 March, bringing the total arrests to 11 with one suspect later released under bail after he is proven to be unrelated to the case.[12] The cleaning operation of the 1.5 kilometre stretch of the affected river was completed in the same day, where a total of 900 tonnes of soil and 1,500 tonnes of polluted water were cleaned.[25]

Several other identified toxic gases emitted (following the interaction of the chemicals concerned with water and air) include acrolein, acrylonitrile, ethylbenzene, hydrogen chloride, D-limonene, toluene and xylene, which if inhaled, can cause headache, nausea, fainting and breathing difficulty.[10][26] Two main suspects (a Singaporean and a Malaysian) were charged at the Sessions Court in Johor on 25 March for illegal disposal of chemicals into the river and their company, P Tech Resources was slapped with 15 charges to which they pleaded not guilty. Both have been charged earlier in the same court for conspiring with a lorry driver to dispose the scheduled wastes into the river.[27]
 
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Sibeh jialat and punggol new residents are looking forward to the water view
 

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I think at the end of the day, we should trust our authorities.

I suppose residents there will ask NEA to step up the monitoring if they feel unsafe about air or water quality.
 

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I think at the end of the day, we should trust our authorities.

I suppose residents there will ask NEA to step up the monitoring if they feel unsafe about air or water quality.

IMHO.
For Air - Get an air quality meter. To mitigate, run air purifiers
For Water - Get a water quality meter e.g pH, TDS, Chlorine. To mitigate, use water filters.
 
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