Forgo UOL placing for RMIT?

[Kooosh]

I have gotten a placing at UOL for a degree in Banking and Finance and I'm reconsidering my option.

I'm thinking of letting go my placing at UOL for degree in banking and finance and apply for RMIT for degree in business next intake in Jan 2014.

Here are my considerations (">" in favour of) :

- Academic grading
UOL is 100% exam based < RMIT is project, research, exams based
This exposes me to more opportunities to shine.

- Recognition
UOL > RMIT
From my research, UOL is more internationally known. That means more companies from the private sector are going to be keeping an eye out for UOL graduates than RMIT.

- Reward
UOL direct honours > RMIT no honours
Honours is one thing that is pulling me back to UOL. But the thing is how well of an honours can I get? If it is not first class or even a 2nd upper then it would be equivalent to a normal degree. And during an interview, saying you attained a 2nd lower or 3rd class is just going to make things worst. I'd be embarrassed for one. RMIT comes with distinction if you do well enough. And you can apply for honours if you want to at the end of the course.

- Duration
UOL 3 years < RMIT 2 years
Both full-time.

- Difficulty
UOL < RMIT
Based on my personal experience with friends who come from both sides. All concluded that UOL is insanely difficult. I come from a local Poly with no relevance in the business field. I'm afraid I might suffer the wrath of UOL causing me to be unable to attain 1st class.

My point of view is that it would be a logical choice to go for UOL and work for my 1st class if I were to be coming from JC with good results (but not good enough for local university). But that is not the case for me; I come from a local Poly with a gpa of 3.12. And what I study in poly has little relation to business studies in uni. A little bit of C math and stats.

Ultimately I think I'm going to be going for RMIT as I'm leaning more towards it but I would just like to know what you guys think of me letting go a UOL placing and apply for a place in RMIT.

 

[cookiesNcream]

Im also havin the same dilemma as u. I've got a place at UOL but mine is Royal Holloway not LSE.

The "Honors" and reputation of UOL is definitely a attraction.

Like u, I am not from business course in poly. Im not sure if i can do well in UOL exams. However I will go for the bridging course to see how it works out. Meanwhile I will apply for RMIT next year.

Futhermore, if i go ahead with UOL, i only have a gap period of few weeks between my ORD date n sch semester starts. For RMIT I have to wait a few more months.

 

[Like A Sir]

I'm from RMIT and was in a situation like this before.

- Academic grading
They say there are no bellcurve in RMIT, but I suspect there is some other form of moderation. My friends and I had instances where we were sure of our grades yet turned out to be very different. Depending on your final exams, projects that are usually seen to pull your grades up can pull you grades down instead. So I wouldn't say projects are totally good

- Recognition
That's true. Easier to get into MSc worldwide as well.

- Reward
In the eyes of employers, 3rd class and below is viewed as only a very small step above diploma. If you go for UOL, be sure you get 2nd upper and above. Same goes for RMIT, go for distinction average in every module. I've looked around and it seems around 15% of cohort gets RMIT dist degree. Not sure about UOL first class, maybe 8%?

- Difficulty
In terms of difficulty I would say RMIT is easier but it is not that far off from UOL. Part of the reason why I think people say RMIT is easier because they force you to study and revise earlier because it includes assignments and projects. I wouldn't say it's hard to study without a business background.

 

[amerell]

Agree with you. If your more of an assignments/hands-on person, always better to go for RMIT.

Don't worry when it comes to job opportunities, there are even students who are from RMIT placed in big4, banks etc.

Good that you have done your research and speak to frens all over. All the best ahead =)

 

[wav35_]

i think most ppl who enter SIM has this dilemma - UOL or RMIT? same for me a few years ago, i chose RMIT in the end, graduated already.

frankly speaking, overall recognition wise, UOL > RMIT. but perhaps not so much locally. i feel local wise, SIM-UOL = SIM-RMIT, most employers recognise that you come from SIM, rather than place emphasis on which partner uni prog you do. but internationally wise and if you choose to work overseas, the UOL cert has more recognition than RMIT, even more so with its honours. and if you can get a UOL first class, it will look good on your resume.

main reason why i chose RMIT over UOL is the structure of the prog. 100% exam-based is too risky, i dun wanna put all my eggs into a basket. i dun wanna study very hard for exams and suay suay end up not feeling well during exam period and affect the whole 1 year. UOL teaches subject matters deeper than RMIT whereas RMIT covers a broader 'surface' area (more modules), which's better depends on you. but i feel that you learn better from RMIT bcos of the fact that you do projects. doing projects really 'force' you to go and do extensive research and read up on your coursework and if you are not a free loader, you will know most of your module content moderately well even before exams + there are tests. some of my UOL friends told me they cant rmb what they have studied after yearly exams but i can still rmb some of my stuffs even up till now cos it was drilled while doing projects. also i prefer RMIT exams cos some papers are very application-based and not so much on memory work.

if you can, go read up on the modules both unis offer. RMIT website also shows you how you are accessed for each module and the breakdown of each assessment component.

 

[Kooosh]

Thanks for all the considerate replies!

Im also havin the same dilemma as u. ..

Hello fellow dilemma friend!

I'm from RMIT and was in a situation like this before.

- Academic grading
They say there are no bellcurve in RMIT, but I suspect there is some other form of moderation. My friends and I had instances where we were sure of our grades yet turned out to be very different. Depending on your final exams, projects that are usually seen to pull your grades up can pull you grades down instead. So I wouldn't say projects are totally good

- Recognition
That's true. Easier to get into MSc worldwide as well.

- Reward
In the eyes of employers, 3rd class and below is viewed as only a very small step above diploma. If you go for UOL, be sure you get 2nd upper and above. Same goes for RMIT, go for distinction average in every module. I've looked around and it seems around 15% of cohort gets RMIT dist degree. Not sure about UOL first class, maybe 8%?

- Difficulty
In terms of difficulty I would say RMIT is easier but it is not that far off from UOL. Part of the reason why I think people say RMIT is easier because they force you to study and revise earlier because it includes assignments and projects. I wouldn't say it's hard to study without a business background.

Well since difficulty is not that far off from UOL then it all boils down to which preferred method of grading? Like I have read much and heard much from research and talking to my friends, many say the same,"not wanting to put all your eggs into one basket" would be something I'd be working around.

Btw MSc you're referring to Masters of Sciences?

Agree with you. If your more of an assignments/hands-on person, always better to go for RMIT.

Don't worry when it comes to job opportunities, there are even students who are from RMIT placed in big4, banks etc.

Good that you have done your research and speak to frens all over. All the best ahead =)

Thanks for your well wishes! Which uni are you from? Curious haha..

i think most ppl who enter SIM has this dilemma - UOL or RMIT? same for me a few years ago, i chose RMIT in the end, graduated already.

frankly speaking, overall recognition wise, UOL > RMIT. but perhaps not so much locally. i feel local wise, SIM-UOL = SIM-RMIT, most employers recognise that you come from SIM, rather than place emphasis on which partner uni prog you do. but internationally wise and if you choose to work overseas, the UOL cert has more recognition than RMIT, even more so with its honours. and if you can get a UOL first class, it will look good on your resume.

main reason why i chose RMIT over UOL is the structure of the prog. 100% exam-based is too risky, i dun wanna put all my eggs into a basket. i dun wanna study very hard for exams and suay suay end up not feeling well during exam period and affect the whole 1 year. UOL teaches subject matters deeper than RMIT whereas RMIT covers a broader 'surface' area (more modules), which's better depends on you. but i feel that you learn better from RMIT bcos of the fact that you do projects. doing projects really 'force' you to go and do extensive research and read up on your coursework and if you are not a free loader, you will know most of your module content moderately well even before exams + there are tests. some of my UOL friends told me they cant rmb what they have studied after yearly exams but i can still rmb some of my stuffs even up till now cos it was drilled while doing projects. also i prefer RMIT exams cos some papers are very application-based and not so much on memory work.

if you can, go read up on the modules both unis offer. RMIT website also shows you how you are accessed for each module and the breakdown of each assessment component.

I have thought of working overseas as well but not until I have a stable rep and a good CV so I don't think its wise for me to get a UOL degree just because I have considered going overseas to work. Its more of a if-gahment-continue-its-doings-or-worst-then-go plan.

Very true and ditto to not putting all eggs into a basket, in this case, academically.

I'm not much of a fan of memory work as well. I tend to ask why, and want to understand more of why instead of just memorising; unless its really on a different and far off level to understand why (like why is the formula this way) then of course memorise would be a faster choice? But yeah not a fan of memory work, I feel its more deeper embedded in my brains if I understand it. I can also imagine the pressure of 1 years worth of work in just a couple of hours of examination, all on a single set of papers that will be graded to determine if you are going to be investing another year in it or not..

 

[Kooosh]

As for RMIT I heard from a friend of mine from a part-time program at RMIT doing econs and finance, said most of his assignments and projects are individual projects?

 

[Kooosh]

Anyone studying part-time RMIT?

I have an opportunity to a good MNC law firm for a full time job. Considering part-time now but worried about managing study and work..

 

[CoffeeNeko]

I have gotten a placing at UOL for a degree in Banking and Finance and I'm reconsidering my option.

I'm thinking of letting go my placing at UOL for degree in banking and finance and apply for RMIT for degree in business next intake in Jan 2014.

Here are my considerations (">" in favour of) :

- Academic grading
UOL is 100% exam based < RMIT is project, research, exams based
This exposes me to more opportunities to shine.

- Recognition
UOL > RMIT
From my research, UOL is more internationally known. That means more companies from the private sector are going to be keeping an eye out for UOL graduates than RMIT.

- Reward
UOL direct honours > RMIT no honours
Honours is one thing that is pulling me back to UOL. But the thing is how well of an honours can I get? If it is not first class or even a 2nd upper then it would be equivalent to a normal degree. And during an interview, saying you attained a 2nd lower or 3rd class is just going to make things worst. I'd be embarrassed for one. RMIT comes with distinction if you do well enough. And you can apply for honours if you want to at the end of the course.

- Duration
UOL 3 years < RMIT 2 years
Both full-time.

- Difficulty
UOL < RMIT
Based on my personal experience with friends who come from both sides. All concluded that UOL is insanely difficult. I come from a local Poly with no relevance in the business field. I'm afraid I might suffer the wrath of UOL causing me to be unable to attain 1st class.

My point of view is that it would be a logical choice to go for UOL and work for my 1st class if I were to be coming from JC with good results (but not good enough for local university). But that is not the case for me; I come from a local Poly with a gpa of 3.12. And what I study in poly has little relation to business studies in uni. A little bit of C math and stats.

Ultimately I think I'm going to be going for RMIT as I'm leaning more towards it but I would just like to know what you guys think of me letting go a UOL placing and apply for a place in RMIT.

Hi Koosh. I for one am debating between going for RMIT next Jan vs applying for UOL next August. Would like to know the outcome of your decision.

 

[nestnest77]

uol was out of question for me because I want to learn from projects etc too.. thus for me it's either University at buffalo or rmit.. I choose UB thou

 

[CoffeeNeko]

uol was out of question for me because I want to learn from projects etc too.. thus for me it's either University at buffalo or rmit.. I choose UB thou

Thank you!

 

[Successor.]

LOLS, UOL placement is almost like 99.9% acceptance one..I just read the statistics and it seems like as long as you apply for UOL, you will get accepted.

Anyway I personally feel that UOL degree is more prestigious and accreditated as it is really through hard work. If you put time to study, there isno way you will feel.

Those who failed are those who gave themselves reasons that they are busy and cant commit. For UOL, you really need to SACRIFICE time to study. Just 3 mths is enough and you can even work contract job to gain additional work experience.

For RMIT, I feel that it is more like you have money you will get the degree. More like buying the cert. I read one of my friend accounting assignments and it is below UOL standards. And you have to do assignments, means you have to keep on compromising to you team members schedule, which is much more tiring then UOL as there is totally no problem with self studying with lecturers notes if you have made notes throughout the lectures.

And BTW, I also have the same dilemma as you initially.

Besides the Honours, RMIT was much cheaper and takes me 1.5 years full time to study as I could claim maximum exemptions compared to UOL with none.

But my final decision was UOL, primarily due to the honours and the degree is also developed from the lead university LSE which is acclaimed for Economics and Finance.

 

[laughingPANDA]

Old thread so hopefully can get some queries answered. As usual, in a dilemma between UOL and RMIT. Have accepted the offer from UOL while waiting for the offer from RMIT. Would like to check with the bros that are caught in this situation before, did you guys go to UOL or RMIT in the end?

One more question i would like to ask is for RMIT projects, is it possible to solo it or it must be done in a team? As i'm a NSF, i think i will find it hard to accommodate to other ppl's schedule for projects.

TIA

 

[CoffeeNeko]

Old thread so hopefully can get some queries answered. As usual, in a dilemma between UOL and RMIT. Have accepted the offer from UOL while waiting for the offer from RMIT. Would like to check with the bros that are caught in this situation before, did you guys go to UOL or RMIT in the end?

One more question i would like to ask is for RMIT projects, is it possible to solo it or it must be done in a team? As i'm a NSF, i think i will find it hard to accommodate to other ppl's schedule for projects.

TIA

Projects are in a group, not possible to solo it

 

[laughingPANDA]

Projects are in a group, not possible to solo it

Thanks for your response bro!

 

[intime]

Old thread so hopefully can get some queries answered. As usual, in a dilemma between UOL and RMIT. Have accepted the offer from UOL while waiting for the offer from RMIT. Would like to check with the bros that are caught in this situation before, did you guys go to UOL or RMIT in the end?

One more question i would like to ask is for RMIT projects, is it possible to solo it or it must be done in a team? As i'm a NSF, i think i will find it hard to accommodate to other ppl's schedule for projects.

TIA

I strongly suggest you do one thing at a time. Finish your NS then you consider further education. For a 100% exam UOL system, it is going to need your full attention to score a good honours.

Just imagine yourself having to go to class after your full-time NS work, unless you are mentally and physically fit, you are going to be very tired by then, you may not have much time for self revision.
There is a high possibility of you missing classes, which ends up with you snowballing into low grade degree. Which is a waste of money.

After your NS, you may want to apply for russell group universities in SIMGE, eg, Manchester, Birmingham, Sheffield, Southampton.

 

[laughingPANDA]

I strongly suggest you do one thing at a time. Finish your NS then you consider further education. For a 100% exam UOL system, it is going to need your full attention to score a good honours.

Just imagine yourself having to go to class after your full-time NS work, unless you are mentally and physically fit, you are going to be very tired by then, you may not have much time for self revision.
There is a high possibility of you missing classes, which ends up with you snowballing into low grade degree. Which is a waste of money.

After your NS, you may want to apply for russell group universities in SIMGE, eg, Manchester, Birmingham, Sheffield, Southampton.

Thanks for the advice bro! Will strongly consider it! anyway is there any significant difference from RMIT UOL and these Russell group universities that you have mentioned?

To be honest, I have considered enrolling myself into RMIT because of the project style kind of structure. But since the project work can't be solo-ed, I guess exams is the way to go hahah. I'm usually more of a project then presentation kinda guy

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[arcanum00]

Check out the graduates' destinations for each university. For local UOLIP graduates, check out where they work or study after graduated; same applies for RMIT graduates who studied here. It may help.