[GE]A return to by-election strategy?

[JoePilot]

the by-election strategy was used with limited success in the 90s. Basically, the opposition contests less than half the seats, such that pap is guaranteed to return to power. The electorate would then be more willing to vote opposition during the by-election.

With NSP self-destructing, the only credible parties left are WP and SDP. SPP has no succession plans, so voters aren't convinced. SDP appeals to the liberals. Of course, PAP views WP as the biggest threat, hence the constant attacks. SDP's best bet is to contest in SMCs, and if elected , prove that they can run a town council well. From there, establish a base, just like what LTK did in Hougang.

Together, if SDP & WP contest less than half of all seats, perhaps the by-election effect may give voters more reason to vote for an alternative voice in parliament.

What do u think?

 

[ussr_1991]

That was probably an idea by some mole, if mole theory exist. Now we want a change of g

 

[JoePilot]

That was probably an idea by some mole, if mole theory exist. Now we want a change of g

A change of g is still too drastic and far-fetched for the majority conservative moderates.

 

[JoePilot]

Why do u say it's an idea by some moles?

 

[gravity_infinity]

this is only effective if u want to swing people from not voting pap out of power. this means.. even if oppo wins all the seats, they will not be in power.

but how are you going to make sure everyone thinks the same way?

if u look carefully. WP total number of candidates should be 28. not enough to win 1/3 of 89, 30 seats or 29 seats to block a total seat of 89.

WP is already telling people to vote all their candidates and they wont be a threat to pap.

also... the mass majority would prefer a party that does not oppose for the sake of opposing. WP has make it clear many times they are supportive of policies that will benefit sg and will not block or oppose for the sake of opposing.

it is clear that majority of sg voters prefer less drama and more cooperation.

drastic changes (even if benefit sg) cannot be implement overnight without drastic consequences. just like driving.. u cannot make a drastic uturn at high speed without having a huge risk of over turning the car.

any changes has to be gradual and careful.

 

[veryhungryboy]

er, with NSP, PPP, SDA, RP, SF, it is practically a BE effect whether intend ornot

WP reinforce in further by contesting only 28

 

[JoePilot]

Here's an idea on tactical voting that sounds good theoretically, but impossible to pull off:

For areas with weak opposition like AMK, bishan TPY and areas contested by NSP, anti pap voters to ironically vote for PAP. Firstly, PAP is very likely to win anyway. Second and more importantly, if PAP wins >75%, the next GE they will find it a dangerously deceptive exercise in trying to do gerrymandering

 

[Angmoh_TuaKi]

Spot the moles in WP volunteer group...there are 2

 

[ussr_1991]

Why do u say it's an idea by some moles?

1) I mentioned if mole theory exists

2) CST himself, who urged this strategy, is a distant relative of LKY - My response to those suspect Ben Pwee is a mole because his father is a grassroot as well.

http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/new-book-traces-chiams-road-parliament

Mr Chiam is the second of three sons of a wealthy merchant. Among the book's interesting revelations is that his grandfather Chiam Seng Poh was a revolutionary who helped Dr Sun Yat Sen overthrow the Qing government. Another is that one of Mr Chiam's mother's sisters, Mabel, married Mr Kwa Soon Siew - a brother of Madam Kwa Geok Choo, the late wife of former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew.

 

[JoePilot]

er, with NSP, PPP, SDA, RP, SF, it is practically a BE effect whether intend ornot

WP reinforce in further by contesting only 28

There are still daft Sinkies who fear Pinky will lose in AMK against Deform Party

 

[ussr_1991]

Spot the moles in WP volunteer group...there are 2

The red hair and the guy behind him?

 

[Angmoh_TuaKi]

The red hair and the guy behind him?

 

[Heron_Kusanagi]

Well, if one includes SPP-DPP (CST fading fast) and SDP (Liberal base in SG limited, SDP demonised), that's really still only 3 parties that can be considered credible.

WP - 28
SDP - 11
SPP-DPP - 8

Total = 47

You can topple PAP with this. So, not really by-election, IMO.

 

[Syllabus]

this is only effective if u want to swing people from not voting pap out of power. this means.. even if oppo wins all the seats, they will not be in power.

WP is already telling people to vote all their candidates and they wont be a threat to pap.

also... the mass majority would prefer a party that does not oppose for the sake of opposing. WP has make it clear many times they are supportive of policies that will benefit sg and will not block or oppose for the sake of opposing.

it is clear that majority of sg voters prefer less drama and more cooperation.

drastic changes (even if benefit sg) cannot be implement overnight without drastic consequences. just like driving.. u cannot make a drastic uturn at high speed without having a huge risk of over turning the car.

any changes has to be gradual and careful.

Most of the drastic ill changes are from PAP, they even created quite a number of bad problems themselves including the SMRT.

If WP is to take it's own course, things will only become worse and not better.

 

[Syllabus]

Well, if one includes SPP-DPP (CST fading fast) and SDP (Liberal base in SG limited, SDP demonised), that's really still only 3 parties that can be considered credible.

WP - 28
SDP - 11
SPP-DPP - 8

Total = 47

You can topple PAP with this. So, not really by-election, IMO.

You have totally taken the gerrymandering out of your equation.

 

[Syllabus]

A change of g is still too drastic and far-fetched for the majority conservative moderates.

Most of them are aunties and ah ma, some GCPs.

 

[worcer]

Well, if one includes SPP-DPP (CST fading fast) and SDP (Liberal base in SG limited, SDP demonised), that's really still only 3 parties that can be considered credible.

WP - 28
SDP - 11
SPP-DPP - 8

Total = 47

You can topple PAP with this. So, not really by-election, IMO.

That is on assumption Singapore ground is really hating PAP then it will happen.

A lot of people doesnt even know what bad things PAP had done. Young girls still thinks PAP has done a nice job and its the opposition that caused the FW influx.

 

[stillgottheblues]

It has proven to fail miserably!

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[ahkrong]

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[OddEye]

Don't work one. PAP will focus their attention on those contested GRC and SMC only. Better split their attention. And indirectly, those weaker oppositions (NSP, RP, PPP, SDA, SFP) are already giving the by election feel le.