[GE2025] PAP Discussion Thread

DarkStarer

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Why their manifesto not even 1 Singapore or Singaporean word inside?

Edit: ts out of context. That is only 1 of their manifesto. Got other parts
 

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Manifesto is just for sinkies consumption to fell good. Day after GE, it be forgotten till 5 years later.

it is identical as the Pledge, which was recited by many through the decades, someone said is just an aspiration, may not be achieved.
 

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Restaurant for FTs, Hawker for Singkies.
Grab for FTs, Grab jobs for Singkies.
Condo for FTs, HDB for Singkies(might not even be possible in the near future, if they win further "mandate").
Cars for FTs, Squeeze into MRT for Singkies.
Jobs for FTs, GST Voucher for Singkies. :spin:
 

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I think the biggest single weak link prevalent and permeating throughout the PAP

is lack of accountability.

Just look at Iswaran. Right up till the end, he still insists he is innocent. Once they amended the charges to accepting goodie bag, he straightaway PG.

NRIC saga. Say it is the memo got misunderstood. What the memo looks like, smells like, nobody knows. How come they get so high pay can execute such a serious mis-step that affects who knows how many people, nobody knows. Send 3 stooges out to say sorry, but are they really? Just tell us some officers may face some kind of disciplinary action. What exactly? Is the issue resolved? If NRIC is not meant to be confidential, why not just activate the feature on BizFile again?

SimplyGo. LTA's arrogant double down and triple down on the rollout and the eventual backtrack by CHT does not need more explanation.

Steve Tan saga. Tio replaced right before Nomination Day due to purported multiple complaints of sexual harassment, yet then PM calls him honorable. No need to explain what the accusations are, and why he was never invited back. Same case for Ivan Lim, even though his accusers waived anonymity and offered to come out to corroborate the accusations, PAP dismissed the character defect accusations as 'subjective'. No more explanation, no more Ivan Lim either.

Meta Likegate. In capacity as MFA Minister, like a post that jibaboom diplomatic relations and social harmony. When more and more uproar, 1 by 1 come out to say 'disagree' with the post. 19 days later Minister come out to say it wasn't him who like the post, ask Meta to investigate. Meta no update till now.

And of course, nothing encapsulates this point more than the infamous phrase coined by DPM Gan, 'No Blame Culture'.

Is it really that hard to accept and admit that mistakes were made? The more you try to PAPsplain away your mistakes, the more people will feel that they are still being treated as lowly educated voters of the 60s. Is that really what the PAP thinks of the electorate? Just call us Brother and Sister and Majulah Majulah, and think we are stupid?
 

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I think the biggest single weak link prevalent and permeating throughout the PAP

is lack of accountability.

Just look at Iswaran. Right up till the end, he still insists he is innocent. Once they amended the charges to accepting goodie bag, he straightaway PG.

NRIC saga. Say it is the memo got misunderstood. What the memo looks like, smells like, nobody knows. How come they get so high pay can execute such a serious mis-step that affects who knows how many people, nobody knows. Send 3 stooges out to say sorry, but are they really? Just tell us some officers may face some kind of disciplinary action. What exactly? Is the issue resolved? If NRIC is not meant to be confidential, why not just activate the feature on BizFile again?

SimplyGo. LTA's arrogant double down and triple down on the rollout and the eventual backtrack by CHT does not need more explanation.

Steve Tan saga. Tio replaced right before Nomination Day due to purported multiple complaints of sexual harassment, yet then PM calls him honorable. No need to explain what the accusations are, and why he was never invited back. Same case for Ivan Lim, even though his accusers waived anonymity and offered to come out to corroborate the accusations, PAP dismissed the character defect accusations as 'subjective'. No more explanation, no more Ivan Lim either.

Meta Likegate. In capacity as MFA Minister, like a post that jibaboom diplomatic relations and social harmony. When more and more uproar, 1 by 1 come out to say 'disagree' with the post. 19 days later Minister come out to say it wasn't him who like the post, ask Meta to investigate. Meta no update till now.

And of course, nothing encapsulates this point more than the infamous phrase coined by DPM Gan, 'No Blame Culture'.

Is it really that hard to accept and admit that mistakes were made? The more you try to PAPsplain away your mistakes, the more people will feel that they are still being treated as lowly educated voters of the 60s. Is that really what the PAP thinks of the electorate? Just call us Brother and Sister and Majulah Majulah, and think we are stupid?
Too difficult to change policy. Just have to patch work.
 

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Too difficult to change policy. Just have to patch work.
I think more worrying is the type of people they seem to be choosing, and the lead they take from the top.

All their hot mic incidents (lousy school, illiterate, F****** populist), TCJ using his hot mic on CLH and LHL revealing he knew about it for years, ppl throw file in Parliament, sleep on TV in Parliament, regular and frequent absences from Parliament, speaks to their arrogance. Then you got TSL trying to be all witty quoting a line in Cantonese from a movie which is the same as saying LMW is illiterate or too dense to understand his wisdom, and getting away with it. But they can immediately gang up and descend like vultures to take the moral high ground in instances like this:

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When was the last time any of them truly spoke up for their constituents out of sincere concern and not optics?

They often extol themselves to be the paragon of virtue, truth, and impartiality, but their actions more often than not run counter to that.

To me, their moral authority to lead died with Ong Teng Cheong, the one President who truly understood his responsibility and deserved better from his own party.

The truth is, no right-minded Singaporean wants the PAP to fail. All we want is for them to do the job they are paid to, which is to look out for the interests of all Singaporeans. In return, we get GST helps the poor, we get condescension, we get performative TSL theatre, we get told we can pack up and GTFO if we are unhappy, the list goes on.

Ahgong was right to say this is not a game of cards, it is your life and mine. However, it seems to have become a game with the PAP of today, with the cheat code being 'Brother Sister Majulah Majulah PAP PAP', to get to play again for 5 years.

Don't just keep telling Singaporeans to give you their votes PAP. Earn them. You can start by attending Parliament regularly and staying awake when you are there.
 

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Who should we focus on attacking? WP or PSP? I don't think we have enough firepower to tackle two fronts.
 

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I also notice this GE, PAP street poster alot less than other GE. And size also smaller. Downgrade from A0 size to A1 size.
 

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OK let's do this:

Attack Pitram on his lying and court case.
Attack Faisal Manap on Middle East issue.
Attack Dr TanCB on his age.

Boleh?
 

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Tonight is important. First live rallies in 10 years. We will see the attendence at the rallies to have a better sense of electoral pulse.
 

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Tonight is important. First live rallies in 10 years. We will see the attendence at the rallies to have a better sense of electoral pulse.

Rally attendance is not accurate to gauge voting outcome.... Some just go to enjoy the atmosphere
 

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Rally attendance is not accurate to gauge voting outcome.... Some just go to enjoy the atmosphere
Who is manning the PAP election war room this evening? All sure going to watch the rally streaming and take notes.
 

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PAP rally is really jin boring. And viewership is so low across all media sites.
 

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PAP candidates cannot anyhow talk one leh , they all must sing to LW tune, tell the same story and march in line with him too
 
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