[GE2025] SDP Discussion Thread

[misterGomez]

on another note, its the media's way to 'hint' people to vote properly. something like subliminal advertising?? taking cheap shots again?

 

[Nuclear Boy]

they will say don't rock the boat, but if the boat is sinking then how? I feel SG is really a lost cause cos all of them so scared of this scared of that

Like the Sewol ferry sinking... Captain tells the passengers (mostly high school students) to stay put and stay calm, await further instructions. Captain and kakis abandon ship first. The students, taught their whole lives up till then to be trustful and obedient to higher authority, take heed and stay put. They died.

This is where SG is heading.

 

[jumpthepig]

Like the Sewol ferry sinking... Captain tells the passengers (mostly high school students) to stay put and stay calm, await further instructions. Captain and kakis abandon ship first. The students, being trustful and obedient to higher authority, take heed and stay put. They died.

This is where SG is heading.

Titanic - many passengers wealthy individuals, boarded lifeboats during the Titanic's sinking….60% of first-class passengers survived

 

[Ubi-Warrior]

it a common understanding that most people who work in gov sector scare of this, and alwayt vote pap coz they are if never vote for them, later career progress slow down or bah bah.

evn thou our gov has address this and mention that our votes are secret, but this has not assure them.

They can find out who vote for who , otherwise how to stop vote fraud?

Whether they go looking is another question.

 

[johnsonheng]

They can find out who vote for who , otherwise how to stop vote fraud?

Whether they go looking is another question.

I don't think they have the time for it. But I think they know which block voted for oppo and use it to cut the grc

 

[Hakuna Matata]

安啦，投票是秘密的。况且他们很忙的，身兼多职。

 

[Akky85]

it a common understanding that most people who work in gov sector scare of this, and alwayt vote pap coz they are if never vote for them, later career progress slow down or bah bah.

evn thou our gov has address this and mention that our votes are secret, but this has not assure them.

Ironically this proves those working under them, do not really hold true allegiance to them. The moment PAP toh all come out to declare supporter of X or Y or whatever it is.

The surface unity is held together only by the strands of fear.

 

[misterGomez]

They can find out who vote for who , otherwise how to stop vote fraud?

Whether they go looking is another question.

They can find out of they want but the boxes are stored at a location for 6 months and no one has access to it so how to find out? After 6 months they will ask party rep to come witness the destruction of the boxes. Don't be an IB for the sake of it.

 

[Ubi-Warrior]

I don't think they have the time for it. But I think they know which block voted for oppo and use it to cut the grc

Yes , should be able to do this if they so wish.

How many "man days" to quote LKY.

The vote is only as secret as the incumbent want it to be

 

[Ubi-Warrior]

They can find out of they want but the boxes are stored at a location for 6 months and no one has access to it so how to find out? After 6 months they will ask party rep to come witness the destruction of the boxes. Don't be an IB for the sake of it.

Nobody being an IB , its a fact that if the incumbent party want to find out who voted for who they can do, otherwise how to counter voter fraud?

Who ratify what if they get audited?

Whether they do or not is entirely up to the Govt of the time.

 

[misterGomez]

Nobody being an IB , its a fact that if the incumbent party want to find out who voted for who they can do, otherwise how to counter voter fraud?

Who ratify what if they get audited?

Whether they do or not is entirely up to the Govt of the time.

They already said to take their word for it, I also have seen it and done the checking before.

 

[snapp]

While the first generation of ministers from the People's Action Party (PAP) were “capable and competent”, the quality of present ministers “leaves very much to be desired", Singapore Democratic Party’s chief Dr Chee Soon Juan said on Tuesday (Apr 29).

During the SDP's lunchtime rally speech at UOB Plaza, Dr Chee said that while he has “no interest in conducting PAP bashing”, he had to list out the “PAP scandals and screw-ups, only because our PAP ministers keep running the propaganda that they are exceptional and they don’t need an opposition to hold them accountable”.

Dr Chee, who is standing in Sembawang West SMC, then spent a large part of his speech retracing past controversies around the PAP.

These included former Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's handling of then Speaker Tan Chuan-Jin's affair with a fellow PAP parliamentarian, two ministers' rental of state bungalows at Ridout Road, the government's use of TraceTogether data, and how it handled the disclosure of individuals' full NRIC numbers on a government business portal.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ge2025-sdp-lunchtime-rally-uob-plaza-5096086

 

[snapp]

“My message is not that the PAP, this government, is 100 per cent bad, or that it is 100 per cent good. What I want to get across to you, is that the PAP is most certainly not the exceptional party that it says that it is,” Dr Chee said.

He added that ministers need to be "humble" and acknowledge that the country needs an opposition, like the SDP, in parliament to make the nation stronger.

“Most of all, acknowledge and accept the fact that the PAP needs meaningful opposition in parliament to govern Singapore better.”

On salaries of ministers, a topic that has been largely discussed by opposition parties, Dr Chee said ministers in the country are being paid “such astronomical salaries”.

He said that the reasoning was that if ministers are not paid “what they demand, then they might fall into the seductive hands of corruption”.

"We must educate our ministers that corruption is bad and that if they are caught, there are consequences, period. We don't pay them exorbitant salaries to not be corrupt. We elect our leaders based on their moral rectitude. Anything less, and we are better off without them," he said.

He urged the crowd that gathered on Tuesday afternoon to avoid giving “blind support” to the PAP.

“Blind faith allows society into thinking that things are fine when they are clearly not, and worse, that there is no alternative to the PAP,” Dr Chee said.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ge2025-sdp-lunchtime-rally-uob-plaza-5096086

 

[snapp]

REJECT "FEARMONGERING"​

SDP candidates who spoke at the rally also called on voters to reject the PAP’s “fearmongering” when they cast their ballot.

"They tell you that if you vote for the opposition, Singapore will collapse. That if you bring in anyone other than the PAP to parliament, Singapore's success story will crumble," said SDP candidate Dr James Gomez.

"When the PAP behaves this way, do not let fear guide your decision. Let your hopes, your needs and your future be the courage that guides your vote."

He took aim at Senior Minister Lee Hsien Loong's comments on Sunday that losing key ministers could place Singapore in "quite a lot of trouble".

"Such logic is unbelievable, but I can understand it comes from the PAP’s desperation. After all, losing ministers will be a problem for the PAP but not for us Singaporeans," said Dr Gomez.

He also described as "nonsense" Prime Minister Lawrence Wong's comments on Monday that having more opposition seats would "weaken the PAP team" and make it harder for them to serve Singaporeans effectively.

"Effective government demands accountability, transparency and debate. It requires different voices in parliament, including SDP MPs, to challenge bad policies, policies that hurt Singaporeans," said Dr Gomez.

"If Lawrence Wong says that his team can only function when given unchecked power, then the problem is not with us Singaporeans, but with the PAP – a PAP that fears scrutiny.

"When you vote for a strong opposition, you are not hurting Singapore. You are only threatening the PAP’s desire for total control. It is their plans that will be disrupted, not the prosperity of Singaporeans."

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ge2025-sdp-lunchtime-rally-uob-plaza-5096086

 

[dambio]

It's good to remind ppl

 

[snapp]

SDP chair Dr Paul Tambyah made a reference to a Straits Times interview of a young voter at an SDP rally, whose father working in a government-linked corporation cautioned her against revealing her name to the newspaper.

Dr Tambyah said it was "disturbing" that young people still felt this fear.

He called on Minister-in-charge of the Public Service Chan Chun Sing to "make a strong statement reassuring Singaporeans they can vote freely without fear of retribution, no matter whether they work in the civil service, the military, the police or any other government organisation".

"No matter whether they work in the civil service, the military, the police or any other government organisation, their loyalty is to the government and people of Singapore, regardless of whoever is in power," said Dr Tambyah.

He also responded to Health Minister Ong Ye Kung's jab the night before that SDP's proposals did not have "a snowball's chance" of contributing to a thriving Singapore.

"The SDP's proposals will be like a snowball in Greenland, gaining momentum and building up for real change in Singapore," said Dr Tambyah.

Dr Chee urged voters to "be bold, be brave, be on the right side of history".

"Let us lead not with fear, but with faith in our people. Let us lead not by clinging on to the past, but by focusing boldly in the future," he said.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ge2025-sdp-lunchtime-rally-uob-plaza-5096086

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[nyvrem]

flood gates has open

once in 5 years nia

ppl will still vote white

 

[parchiao]

flood gates has open

once in 5 years nia

ppl will still vote white

Fewer people will vote whites

until they are voted out

 

[dqwong]

Is Chee Soon Juan right about PAP ministers being no longer exceptional?

 

[herzberg]

The whites sure hit back and stir csj last time actions