Genting FAQ - Part 2

[MarsAttack]

I dun believe in consistent winning for casino. good money management simply means you can spend more time gambling before you lose all your capital.

Haha. That's one way not to feel so much heart pain after suffering gambling losses.

For me, I stop the session after 3 or 4 unit losses below my capital. Means my bet selection not working for that particular session. Just cut loss and run no matter what.. No point putting good money after bad. And martingale to recoup losses is a no no. Will die c**k standing.

 

[MarsAttack]

Hmm. I wonder how the casinos cost $Billions to build and make hundreds of M$ in profits every year. Where does that money come from.

Well, as u had already mentioned, casinos make hundreds of M$ every year. With so high returns, investors and banks are more than happy to cough up the initial billions to build casinos.

 

[MarsAttack]

gamble for fun.. dun gamble to chase loss or "fa da"
can make some kopi money arm chio already

I like your point of view

According to Max Rubin (see www.maxrubin.net), players can still come out ahead of casinos by learning and applying basic BJ strategy (to minimise loss), and comp hustling (to take advantage of free rooms, meals, concerts, transport, etc). The idea is while u still hv fun playing the game, the value of the comp will offset your losses.

 

[datolim]

Well, as u had already mentioned, casinos make hundreds of M$ every year. With so high returns, investors and banks are more than happy to cough up the initial billions to build casinos.

C'mon, finished the sentence. "and there are gamblers like you who would throw money at the casino to let them make hundreds of M$ profits every year."

 

[Denikeve]

Don't know what you mean by "not true BJ".
There are 2 types of BJ, European BJ and American BJ. An in-between version is played in Australia. European BJ is sometimes called the "European No Hole Card BJ". Different BS or Basic Strategy or playing by the book should be used for each type.
Genting is playing European BJ.

thanks for enlightening me. I would be playing BJ instead of baccarat if Genting doesn't use the continuous shuffling machine and if they play the American version haha.

 

[lewkl001]

To be precise NN slots credit can be played in the high denomination Slot Club adjacent to the VIP and not the 2/5cents machine in VIP. There are $300 BJ tables in VIP but you are not allowed to play these games as the House Advantage there is only 0.44%.

I see. Thank you brother JohnTKS. Anyway, I don't play slot. When they told me the NN slots credit can not be played in the Electronic table game, I feel "xian" liao. I play the electronics baccarat a lot. Of course, BJ is still my favourite game. So, I still stick to the normal premium program.

I believe 0.44% House Advantage is the lowest among genting games. Even pontoon can not get that low HA.

 

[marigold]

anyone took bus from kl to genting before? How much does it cost and how long it takes?

the bus is it straight go first world hotel or the first world bus terminal or go other places? I go website search more info they also say what skyway lah

 

[lewkl001]

You can check the genting website

The Go genting bus operate in several terminals : Gombak, Pudu, KLsentral and one U.

 

[lewkl001]

forget to mention, all these buses go to skyway station and you need to take skyway to genting.

 

[marigold]

forget to mention, all these buses go to skyway station and you need to take skyway to genting.

never go direct to the bus terminal at first world?

so i take bus to the cablecar stn then take cable car, where is the cable car stn located at? near first world?

 

[datolim]

I see. Thank you brother JohnTKS. Anyway, I don't play slot. When they told me the NN slots credit can not be played in the Electronic table game, I feel "xian" liao. I play the electronics baccarat a lot. Of course, BJ is still my favourite game. So, I still stick to the normal premium program.

I believe 0.44% House Advantage is the lowest among genting games. Even pontoon can not get that low HA.

Really, you are a BJ player. I play only BJ but if there are no kakis at the table then I play electronic Baccarat or the commission Bac tables. Yes Pontoon HA is o.69%. But I don't play BJ in GH because I see only RM100 tables in the IR. This is a bit above my comfort zone. My regular play is on SC, S$10 BJ tables. $25 BJ table I can play now and then. I am on SC about twice a month and in GH about once in 4 months. Are you a Basic Strategy player.

 

[lewkl001]

never go direct to the bus terminal at first world?

so i take bus to the cablecar stn then take cable car, where is the cable car stn located at? near first world?

If you want direct bus to firstworld, you need to take the yellow bus which operate the titiwangsa-genting route. I forget the price already. Anyway, the ticket price is less than 10MYR, may be 6-7MYR. However, I don't recommend this bus. It has a very terrible accident recently. 30+ passenger died.

The cable car station in genting highland is near the maxim hotel. The go genting bus will take you to Gohtong jaya station then you take cable car from there.

brother marigold, first time to genting?

 

[lewkl001]

Really, you are a BJ player. I play only BJ but if there are no kakis at the table then I play electronic Baccarat or the commission Bac tables. Yes Pontoon HA is o.69%. But I don't play BJ in GH because I see only RM100 tables in the IR. This is a bit above my comfort zone. My regular play is on SC, S$10 BJ tables. $25 BJ table I can play now and then. I am on SC about twice a month and in GH about once in 4 months. Are you a Basic Strategy player.

Ya, I am a basic strategy player. But sometime I have to give up on following the basic strategy when I paly in GH. Some auntie there is terrible. They will accuse you of taking the good or bad card. Thus, I prefer on to one when I play BJ. Why you need kakis at BJ table?

You are right, only RM100 table in IR. If you play pontoon, then outside have a lot of RM50 tables.

 

[Denikeve]

Really, you are a BJ player. I play only BJ but if there are no kakis at the table then I play electronic Baccarat or the commission Bac tables. Yes Pontoon HA is o.69%. But I don't play BJ in GH because I see only RM100 tables in the IR. This is a bit above my comfort zone. My regular play is on SC, S$10 BJ tables. $25 BJ table I can play now and then. I am on SC about twice a month and in GH about once in 4 months. Are you a Basic Strategy player.

how much do you pay for the cabins??

 

[datolim]

how much do you pay for the cabins??

Nothing.
With the points I get from playing $10 and $25 BJ I am able to book for the cruise. It surprises me that SC can be so generous with their Comps. That is why I am a regular. Perhaps I also know how to take full advantage of their programs.
I take $2000 BR with me and change $500 into chips. Usually at the end of the cruise I have some chips left. My win/loss, more often loss is usually about the same as the sea-port tax which is about $100+.

 

[datolim]

Ya, I am a basic strategy player. But sometime I have to give up on following the basic strategy when I paly in GH. Some auntie there is terrible. They will accuse you of taking the good or bad card. Thus, I prefer on to one when I play BJ. Why you need kakis at BJ table?

You are right, only RM100 table in IR. If you play pontoon, then outside have a lot of RM50 tables.

Yes BJ is not for the sensitive person. Need a thick skin. The problem with BJ is how you play your cards will affect the other players cards. You only need one bad noisy player to spoil the enjoyment of the game for you. I have been playing BJ for almost 10 years and I can spend a whole night telling you about the bad encounters I have playing BJ.
" Why you need kakis at BJ table?" Because of the speed of play. This is even more important than the HA. It is generally accepted that for a full table it is 60 rounds per hour and for the sole player 360 rph. So your HA is increased by 6 times. I always flat bet and I am playing for the points.
But maybe you are different and you play to win. Knowing what you know this seems unlikely. In this case it depends on your luck. Still the speed of play applies.
Wow at the RM100 table playing alone your win/loss must be in the thousands per hour.

 

[valrosx]

What is this ? Premium club from genting?

Is this a premium / VIP room?

 

[yangsss]

just came back from Uncle Lim resort last week. took the free resort hotel sms 3D2N, and buy coach ticket from 5 star.

weather is turning colder compared to previous times visits

took a free ride to mushroom farm for dinner, quite expensive but cannot compare to town KL JB areas as its uphill.
7 pax makan, prawn, egg, tofu, veg x 2, meat, drinks, around RM$250

can see its lesser crowd, maybe its low peak season or 7th month period

only eatable food in the whole Genting is the chinese cafe inside casino, the what fortune name. RM$18 for wanton noodle or curry mee. wanton v big and succulent.

if u buy 300/500 NN package, got free coupon can redeem.

4D3N up up down down, starting lose RM$7000+, a bit sian liao, after that went down to KL walk walk shopping, last day go fight back, overall gain RM$2000+ & control liao, finish go change back $$$ put inside pouch, and go play $50 3 picture kill time.

follow one chinaman at baccarat RM$200 table, he team up with one local indian man, damn good. pull dragon all the way. confident time he bet $10000 he win, no confident he bet $1000 and lose.

later one singh at 3 picture table, his base only RM$1000+. after when table closing at 0430am, he walk away with at least RM$15,000+ chips.

five star coach like lose standard already. go up use normal coach, still okay. come back use premium coach, top up $35, but tv monitor spoil, aircon spoil.

any recommendations for coach? Sri Maju? WTS?

 

[Denikeve]

Nothing.
With the points I get from playing $10 and $25 BJ I am able to book for the cruise. It surprises me that SC can be so generous with their Comps. That is why I am a regular. Perhaps I also know how to take full advantage of their programs.
I take $2000 BR with me and change $500 into chips. Usually at the end of the cruise I have some chips left. My win/loss, more often loss is usually about the same as the sea-port tax which is about $100+.

I see. so basically you're just paying for the taxes which is $100+ for a 3d2n cruise??

 

[Denikeve]

Is this a premium / VIP room?

neither. need to be a Genting club member which is by invitation/need to pay. different from the VIP.