Genting FAQ - Part 3

[vaxvms]

rwg new app seem better than old app

nowaday seem cannot book on PC but need use app to book only
or iszit only me?

 

[Paul Lee]

Yes, do you know why the casino choose SG instead of AUS.

I do not know why too.

Maybe they think it's easier to go through the system in Spore since Dr Wong is a Singaporean.

 

[eric5fong]

Hi guys, got a quick question. Was just wondering for the World Club rooms at First World, it comes with 2 twin beds or 2 single beds? Cos i remembered booking that rooms with 2 twin bed before and i never see it now.

 

[aLeX84]

rwg new app seem better than old app

nowaday seem cannot book on PC but need use app to book only
or iszit only me?

Just booked a trip last week on PC with no problems. Best to have an updated OS, anti-virus and adblocker installed

 

[aLeX84]

If you are talking about the Phil Ivey case, there was another case in which he won $9.6 million at Borgata, a New Jersey casino. After the Crockford case, the casino went back and review their loss and sued Ivy for the return of their winning.

This article and the accompanying video explains some of the request Ivy made during the gaming session and what he did to gain an advantage at the game.

What is ‘edge-sorting’ and why did it cost a poker star $10 million in winnings?

Video

Fascinating stuffs!

The casino ***** smelly.. the 'trick' that he employed actually resulted from the fault of the casino's card supplier for not ensuring that their cards had a uniform pattern on the back. He didn't physically mark the cards or handle them in any way, hence he did not break any of the game rules. IMHO he won that money fair and square.

FYI edge sorting was also employed by other savvy gamblers in other kinds of table games. Just think of the advantage gained by knowing the probability of what the dealer held in 3 card poker, Caribbean Stud, BJ, Pontoon, etc.

Ivey's case actually picha this lobang.. tiagong there were teams of gamblers using edge sorting going around the casinos to win $$ consistently

 

[datolim]

I do not know why too.

Maybe they think it's easier to go through the system in Spore since Dr Wong is a Singaporean.

I always wonder who these Whales are. Wong Yew Choy is MD of Titainsoft Pte Ltd, an IT software consultant with office in Chinatown.
No big name recognition. My guess is the casino think they can collect more money from him here in SG instead of AUS.
$40M is a lot of money for anybody.

 

[Paul Lee]

The casino ***** smelly.. the 'trick' that he employed actually resulted from the fault of the casino's card supplier for not ensuring that their cards had a uniform pattern on the back. He didn't physically mark the cards or handle them in any way, hence he did not break any of the game rules. IMHO he won that money fair and square.

Actually, believe it or not, Phil is not the one who is the expert in edge sorting but rather his attractive companion Cheung Yin Sun aka Kelly aka The Baccarat Machine aka The Baccarat Queen.

Read more about here >> The Baccarat Queen

Her story is so fascinating that they are actually making a movie about her life.

SOURCE: ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ Production Company Developing ‘Baccarat Queen’ Gambling Movie

Back to the Ivey case, while it's true that they did not mark the card physically and make use of imperfection of the card to gain an advantage, they did game it by arranging the 'high value card' for them to read and to bet only after the initial 4 cards have been dealt.

If they play it fair and square like the rest of us common folks, they would never have been able to win so much money.

 

[datolim]

Actually, believe it or not, Phil is not the one who is the expert in edge sorting but rather his attractive companion Cheung Yin Sun aka Kelly aka The Baccarat Machine aka The Baccarat Queen.

Read more about here >> The Baccarat Queen

Her story is so fascinating that they are actually making a movie about her life.

SOURCE: ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ Production Company Developing ‘Baccarat Queen’ Gambling Movie

Back to the Ivey case, while it's true that they did not mark the card physically and make use of imperfection of the card to gain an advantage, they did game it by arranging the 'high value card' for them to read and to bet only after the initial 4 cards have been dealt.

If they play it fair and square like the rest of us common folks, they would never have been able to win so much money.

I think the majority here would agree with me that Phil Ivey did not do anything wrong and disagree with the court decision.

We all want to gain an advantage on anything in life not just in the casino.

Whose fault is it that the casino uses cards with imperfection. Casino not Ivey.

Ivey requested the cards to be turned around. It is the casinos decision to do it or not. They choose to do it voluntarily and Ivey have no power to compel them to do it. They have to live with their decision. Just like our decisions in everyday life have consequences.

Just like say the stores says we can buy tv for $99 if we spend more than $250 in the store and I get all my relatives and friends to go for it, it is perfectly moral and legal.

Yes Ivey played fair and square like us common folks in everyday life and gaming for advantage is an everyday matter for us all.

 

[lamerzia]

you guys prefer slots/table games?

 

[Cokelemon]

Any bros like to go up mountain alone? How’s the feeling like?

 

[vsvs24]

Is FWH Triple room bigger than Y5 Triple ? From the photo seems Triple room bigger because got place to put sofa.

 

[aLeX84]

Any bros like to go up mountain alone? How’s the feeling like?

Moi went b4. 1st time ***** scared cos it's bolehland, eyes big big, bag hold tight tight and when go toilet never use urinal, only go cubicle cos scared kena robbed. After awhile realise Genting actually relatively safer compared to other places in bolehland, now I even dare to go for midnight smoke in deserted places down there. I even went to solo climb one of the mountains nearby Genting - Gunung Bunga Buah / 花果山. Trail starts at Gohtong Jaya and it takes roughly 4hrs up, 3hrs down but of course you can do it faster if you're fit enough

 

[aLeX84]

I think the majority here would agree with me that Phil Ivey did not do anything wrong and disagree with the court decision.

We all want to gain an advantage on anything in life not just in the casino.

Whose fault is it that the casino uses cards with imperfection. Casino not Ivey.

Ivey requested the cards to be turned around. It is the casinos decision to do it or not. They choose to do it voluntarily and Ivey have no power to compel them to do it. They have to live with their decision. Just like our decisions in everyday life have consequences.

Just like say the stores says we can buy tv for $99 if we spend more than $250 in the store and I get all my relatives and friends to go for it, it is perfectly moral and legal.

Yes Ivey played fair and square like us common folks in everyday life and gaming for advantage is an everyday matter for us all.

Can't agree more. Ivey set the terms under which the game was to be played, casino accepted. Then when they found out he has an advantage, they can't accept that he beat them fair and square under their rules and refuse to payout. ***** smelly.

 

[datolim]

Yes casinos seem to have laws on it's own, at least in the US.
Card counting in Atlantic City is illegal. You are just using your brain. But is legal in Vegas. So in AC they use the CSM to beat the counters. But card counting is as American as apple so nobody wants to play BJ in AC.

In the US the courts generally side with the casinos as they are deem to be part of the establishment. They provide the jobs and keep the economy going.

Other countries may have the same attitude.
So don't expect fair treatment if you get tangle up with some casinos.

Can't agree more. Ivey set the terms under which the game was to be played, casino accepted. Then when they found out he has an advantage, they can't accept that he beat them fair and square under their rules and refuse to payout. ***** smelly.

 

[chuppachop]

Hi guys, got a quick question. Was just wondering for the World Club rooms at First World, it comes with 2 twin beds or 2 single beds? Cos i remembered booking that rooms with 2 twin bed before and i never see it now.

I booked via phone and was told the below options:

Tower 2: 1 queen bed plus 1 single OR 2 single bed
Tower 1: 2 Queen

maybe the 2 single bed rooms in Tower 2 ran out ba

 

[fadefade]

you guys prefer slots/table games?

any game that can generate $$..

 

[vsvs24]

I booked via phone and was told the below options:

Tower 2: 1 queen bed plus 1 single OR 2 single bed
Tower 1: 2 Queen

maybe the 2 single bed rooms in Tower 2 ran out ba

In Jan 2019 I stayed at Tower 2 worldclub that has only 1 queen size bed. At 1pm there were no rooms. I waited till 1.40pm and only this was available and I did not want to wait longer so took it. Room was smaller than the usual world club room I stayed previously.

 

[Arina Hashimoto]

Any bros like to go up mountain alone? How’s the feeling like?

the feeling is SHIOK loh
very peaceful and relax
breathe cool air
eat good food


only problem is sometimes kena cigarette smell from outside

 

[ghregular]

you guys prefer slots/table games?

its preferences.
but i feel table games u can set your target gain better than slots because whereas you have to really hope for some lucky combination to win a big prize, table games like baccarrat target gain depends on your stake largely.
some players simply enjoy whenever there is a feature game in slot which is absent in tables.

 

[ghregular]

the feeling is SHIOK loh
very peaceful and relax
breathe cool air
eat good food


only problem is sometimes kena cigarette smell from outside

even nicer feeling when u win coming downhill.