[GLGT] Raising rail reliability targets could come at a cost to taxpayers, commuters: Chee Hong Tat

[xdivider]

that over maintenance thing again.....

 

[Globe]

the train is for the gov to move mass people so they can have a GDP ... and you want us to keep paying for it , joker ....

everyone take bus slowly shake to their office , you see what kind of GDP is there

 

[V-FORTY]

knn tok cock again, then where all the money from the previous increase go?

which means what? build something, by default is no reliability, please buy DLCs to get the Reliable Package?

silver serpents get multiple bonus a year...

 

[decade]

so his solution to every prob is to pass the costs to tax payers? then we need him for wat?

 

[Prince_Of_Darkness_Dracul]

Went to building all d other lines?

if they launched a project at $xx million dollars, when project awarded then start calling for fares increase and collect the funds as the budget to pay for the project, i think I will specially go wear a hat so I can hats off to them

 

[Calis_Yoda]

got $$$ to build the white elephant Founders park... no $$ to do up the public transport! Money should make to good use for the best of the public.... not something to show off........... Also this joker....... keep pushing COE high and Car lite country..... but cannot maintain the public transport that serves the major..... PLEASE VOTE CAREFULLY

Agree!
When there are less cars or other types of personal transports on the road to transport the population from Point X to Point Y, then there must be:
(a) higher public transport capacity,
(b) higher frequencies
and
(c) consistent, reliable and in some cases, require higher reliability of public transport.

Transferring the demand from 1 category of transport to the other essentially means the increased demand and usage of the other transport category requires more maintenance.

 

[Apparatus]

Aiya, after raising reliability at our costs will he promise no breakdown?

 

[Sillyporeboy]

Means tell you that fare will increase if chiu want reliability

 

[HirotoXeno]

Aiya, after raising reliability at our costs will he promise no breakdown?

Then can say overmaintenance charge us thriple?

 

[HirotoXeno]

Means tell you that fare will increase if chiu want reliability

Over reliability then can charge more also.

 

[Crooni]

They also say 8.5% gst will get free public transport

 

[iluvchickenwing]

public transport shd be part of national defence budget liao. stop asking us to pay and pay! really cannot rely on him. change him out lah!

 

[PikaPika33]

sometimes i really wonder are they that stupid?
but they are suppose to be our best?

am i the dumb one?

maybe i am.dumb, thats why lousy bbfa pasesent

 

[Ethan_]

As if don't don't do anything much, letting it fail don't cost taxpayer. Twisted logic siah. Difference is where the money goes to. Tax is still going to tax people.

 

[mryang]

the inconsistency! The article presents conflicting information about the Bukit Panjang LRT upgrade timeline:

- First Mention: The article states that the upgrade project, originally scheduled for completion in 2024, was delayed to 2026 due to the pandemic.

- Later Statement: Later, the Minister says the upgrade works are "on track for completion in 2026."

The Problem:

These statements contradict each other. The first statement implies a delay from the original 2024 target, while the second suggests that the project is still on schedule for 2026. This inconsistency leaves the reader uncertain about the actual timeline of the project.

Possible Explanations:

- Misinterpretation: The article might have misinterpreted the Minister's statement, or there might be a misunderstanding about the scope of the delay. Perhaps the pandemic only affected certain aspects of the project, and the overall completion date remains unchanged.

- Lack of Clarity: The Minister's statement might have been unclear or ambiguous, leading to different interpretations.
- Shifting Timeline: It's possible that the project timeline has been revised since the initial delay announcement, and the Minister is now referring to the updated schedule.

Conclusion:

The inconsistency in the article is problematic because it creates confusion for readers regarding the Bukit Panjang LRT upgrade timeline. To clarify this issue, it would be helpful to have a more precise and consistent account of the project's progress and any potential delays.

 

[hardindex]

SINGAPORE: Raising rail reliability targets could come at a cost to taxpayers and commuters, said Transport Minister Chee Hong Tat.

The current rail reliability target of 1 million mean kilometres between failure (MKBF) remains a "relevant and valid" target, he said in parliament on Monday (Nov 11).

He was responding to a question by Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh, who said that the target of 1 million MKBF was set about five years ago, and asked if the Ministry of Transport (MOT) is considering raising the threshold.

Mr Chee said that the 1 million figure was chosen because it represents what the best, most reliable rail operators – such as those in Taipei and Guangzhou – have managed to achieve in their systems.

“If we look at it today, I think it's still a relevant and valid target, something that is useful for us to focus on, and that is something which we will continue to work towards,” he said.

The prospect of raising it further has to be carefully assessed, he added.

“Because there is a trade-off between raising MKBF further and what is the cost incurred, which will then ultimately have to be borne by either taxpayers or commuters,” said Mr Chee.

“So, we will study this carefully.”

Rail reliability was being discussed in parliament in the wake of several MRT and LRT system disruptions in the past months.




https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...yzFT8qQZcdExG2sU_k_aem_BrS2iFq6Jqs1PzRYWfa_pA

They cheapo go buy China trains and caused many problems on tracks, now want to charge us for their mistakes.... Reallly


When are these CEO and board of directors gonna take responsibilities for their failures ?



Yes, in 2016, 35 Kawasaki Heavy Industries & CSR Qingdao Sifang C151A trainsets were returned to Qingdao, China for rectification work after a Hong Kong news report alleged multiple defects. The defects included an exploding battery and cracks on the trains. The Singapore government acknowledged the return of the trains and issued official statements in response to the allegations.

 

[NintendoSwitch]

SINGAPORE: Raising rail reliability targets could come at a cost to taxpayers and commuters, said Transport Minister Chee Hong Tat.

The current rail reliability target of 1 million mean kilometres between failure (MKBF) remains a "relevant and valid" target, he said in parliament on Monday (Nov 11).

He was responding to a question by Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh, who said that the target of 1 million MKBF was set about five years ago, and asked if the Ministry of Transport (MOT) is considering raising the threshold.

Mr Chee said that the 1 million figure was chosen because it represents what the best, most reliable rail operators – such as those in Taipei and Guangzhou – have managed to achieve in their systems.

“If we look at it today, I think it's still a relevant and valid target, something that is useful for us to focus on, and that is something which we will continue to work towards,” he said.

The prospect of raising it further has to be carefully assessed, he added.

“Because there is a trade-off between raising MKBF further and what is the cost incurred, which will then ultimately have to be borne by either taxpayers or commuters,” said Mr Chee.

“So, we will study this carefully.”

Rail reliability was being discussed in parliament in the wake of several MRT and LRT system disruptions in the past months.




https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...yzFT8qQZcdExG2sU_k_aem_BrS2iFq6Jqs1PzRYWfa_pA

Can. Take the money from Transport Minister's salary first. Then we talk about raising taxes.

 

[Akky85]

SINGAPORE: Raising rail reliability targets could come at a cost to taxpayers and commuters, said Transport Minister Chee Hong Tat.

The current rail reliability target of 1 million mean kilometres between failure (MKBF) remains a "relevant and valid" target, he said in parliament on Monday (Nov 11).

He was responding to a question by Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh, who said that the target of 1 million MKBF was set about five years ago, and asked if the Ministry of Transport (MOT) is considering raising the threshold.

Mr Chee said that the 1 million figure was chosen because it represents what the best, most reliable rail operators – such as those in Taipei and Guangzhou – have managed to achieve in their systems.

“If we look at it today, I think it's still a relevant and valid target, something that is useful for us to focus on, and that is something which we will continue to work towards,” he said.

The prospect of raising it further has to be carefully assessed, he added.

“Because there is a trade-off between raising MKBF further and what is the cost incurred, which will then ultimately have to be borne by either taxpayers or commuters,” said Mr Chee.

“So, we will study this carefully.”

Rail reliability was being discussed in parliament in the wake of several MRT and LRT system disruptions in the past months.




https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...yzFT8qQZcdExG2sU_k_aem_BrS2iFq6Jqs1PzRYWfa_pA

That's the thing about this generation of PAP, when it comes to other nations who can do it, dun compare to those.

Instead we say no as default then ''threaten'' to pass cost to consumers after that the next few days you will see ST start pumping ''news'' about how high targets cost alot more etc. All selective data at work.

The idea is, it's def possible just that earn LESSER. That's why the answer is No. Not literally becuz will make a loss or whatever or worse, simi ''over maintenance'' and nonsense like these.

 

[mryang]

the logic used in the article! Here are some flaws in the argument presented for maintaining the current 1 million MKBF (mean kilometers between failure) target for Singapore's rail system:

1. Oversimplification of Comparison:

- The Claim: The Minister argues that the 1 million MKBF target is valid because it represents what the best, most reliable rail operators (Taipei and Guangzhou) have achieved.

- The Flaw: This comparison is overly simplistic. It doesn't consider the unique context of Singapore's rail system. Factors like:

- Age of the System: Singapore's MRT system is relatively young compared to some systems in Taipei or Guangzhou, potentially leading to different reliability expectations.

- Network Density: Singapore has a very dense and interconnected rail network, which can increase the complexity of maintenance and operations.

- Terrain Challenges: Singapore's terrain is more challenging than flat cities like Guangzhou, with hilly areas that can impact train performance and reliability.
- Climate: Singapore's humid and tropical climate can also impact rail infrastructure and equipment.

Simply comparing Singapore to other cities without considering these factors might not be a valid basis for maintaining the current target.

2. Ignoring Potential for Improvement:

- The Claim: The Minister suggests that the current target is sufficient and that raising it further would come at a cost.

- The Flaw: This argument ignores the potential for continuous improvement. Even if Singapore is currently achieving a high level of reliability, there's always room for further optimization and enhancement.

- Technological Advancements: New technologies and maintenance techniques can improve reliability even further.

- Learning from Best Practices: Singapore can continue to learn from other cities and adapt best practices to its own system.

3. Lack of Evidence:

- The Claim: The Minister asserts that raising the MKBF target would come at a cost.

- The Flaw: This claim lacks concrete evidence. The article doesn't provide any specific data or analysis to support the claim that a higher target would necessarily lead to significant cost increases.

Conclusion:

The article's argument for maintaining the current MKBF target relies on a flawed comparison and ignores potential for improvement. It also lacks evidence to support the claim that a higher target would be prohibitively expensive. A more nuanced and evidence-based approach is needed to determine the optimal reliability target for Singapore's rail system.

 

[elimmel]

Profits go to who then?
Really is privatise profit, socialise cost…..