Good Portable Charger

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Hi anyone can recommend any good portable charger out there that can charge the iphone 5 for maybe like 3 times or so. I am currently using the below but am looking for better ones. Please share thanks

Portable Power 6200 - W3GEAR
 

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Hi anyone can recommend any good portable charger out there that can charge the iphone 5 for maybe like 3 times or so. I am currently using the below but am looking for better ones. Please share thanks

Portable Power 6200 - W3GEAR

I think the better way to approach this question is to go find a few models and ask around who has used what and whether is it good a not.

At least people won't have to second guess what kind of size, design and price is acceptable to you. :)
 

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I think the better way to approach this question is to go find a few models and ask around who has used what and whether is it good a not.

At least people won't have to second guess what kind of size, design and price is acceptable to you. :)

Thanks but the reason i ask is because i do hope to see a selection of models that people are using and whether they are good or not. I am a noob when it comes to portable chargers. Even the one that i have is recommended from my friend. Cheers
 

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Hi jason910,

I have the same charger you used, but I built it via DIY method (e.g. buy case and battery from Ebay separately).

There are some chargers that provides efficiency of 50% to 60% generally, meaning the advertised rating (e.g. 10,000mah) would only charge up to 50% (or 5000mah for example) compared to your iPhone battery capacity (about 1400mah++), in another word 3.5 times).

Another thing to look into is the use of Li-Ion (18650 sized batteries) or Li-Polymer (can be flat shape) like the batteries used in mobile phones. Generally speaking, Li-polymer has higher capacity and more effective use of space in a charger. Charger can remain flat, which can be a plus factor for smaller capacity chargers (e.g. much more portable).

I have used mainly the 4 Li-ion battery, 2 Li-ion batteries and Li-Polymer battery based chargers. I noticed that the 5200mah Andino I bought has only 45% efficiency (for Apple products it is very low as normally they have 60% from my other chargers). Since I was just back from Hong Kong yesterday, I also saw similar (in fact identical design, same dimension) chargers at the Sim Lim equivalent mall that labeled them as 4000 or 4500mah chargers. 4000mah is more realistic (giving a 58% efficiency). Basically, what I mean is while they may labeled it as 5200mah, the actual performance could be affected by component parts or even unreliable rating.

If you need at least 3 times (assuming 0-100%) of recharge, you would need about 1450mah x 3 or 4350mah of effective charge. If efficiency is 50%, you will need a 8700mah charger. If efficiency is at 60%, you will need a 7250mah charger. But there is a trade off between having a larger charger (higher capacity, heavier) vs smaller charger (smaller capacity, lighter).

In the market, many chargers used a 2200/2400/2600/2800mah capacity Li-Ion batteries or some will use a Li-Polymer batteries. A 4 x Li-ion configuration plus case would weight about 250-280g generally speaking. a 2 x Li-ion configuration would weight about 130-150g. Because of accessibility in Singapore plus being in office, I generally used a smaller pack like the Andino 5200mah (I personally believe only about 4000mah), which is the size of iPhone 4S. Overall gives me more than enough to last for a day of 12 hours of heavy non-gaming, continuous use. For overseas, I would bring along the 4 x Li-Ion configuration pack as colder weather causes the battery to last shorter in the iPhone 5. This is very useful when you have a friend that needs the extra power boast.
 

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Envelop batt booster allows a 180% charge from 0%
One full 100%
Another about 80%
 

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Envelop batt booster allows a 180% charge from 0%
One full 100%
Another about 80%

I'm using that too. It serves as a power backup for me though I seldom run out of power on my device. Better still, it has a slow discharge rate and hence I needn't charge it too often.
 

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Envelop batt booster allows a 180% charge from 0%
One full 100%
Another about 80%
I have this also. Used to use this everyday when I was still using Lumia 900/Galaxy Nexus. But seldom use liao after I switched to iPhone 5.
 

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Hi jason910,

I have the same charger you used, but I built it via DIY method (e.g. buy case and battery from Ebay separately).

There are some chargers that provides efficiency of 50% to 60% generally, meaning the advertised rating (e.g. 10,000mah) would only charge up to 50% (or 5000mah for example) compared to your iPhone battery capacity (about 1400mah++), in another word 3.5 times).

Another thing to look into is the use of Li-Ion (18650 sized batteries) or Li-Polymer (can be flat shape) like the batteries used in mobile phones. Generally speaking, Li-polymer has higher capacity and more effective use of space in a charger. Charger can remain flat, which can be a plus factor for smaller capacity chargers (e.g. much more portable).

I have used mainly the 4 Li-ion battery, 2 Li-ion batteries and Li-Polymer battery based chargers. I noticed that the 5200mah Andino I bought has only 45% efficiency (for Apple products it is very low as normally they have 60% from my other chargers). Since I was just back from Hong Kong yesterday, I also saw similar (in fact identical design, same dimension) chargers at the Sim Lim equivalent mall that labeled them as 4000 or 4500mah chargers. 4000mah is more realistic (giving a 58% efficiency). Basically, what I mean is while they may labeled it as 5200mah, the actual performance could be affected by component parts or even unreliable rating.

If you need at least 3 times (assuming 0-100%) of recharge, you would need about 1450mah x 3 or 4350mah of effective charge. If efficiency is 50%, you will need a 8700mah charger. If efficiency is at 60%, you will need a 7250mah charger. But there is a trade off between having a larger charger (higher capacity, heavier) vs smaller charger (smaller capacity, lighter).

In the market, many chargers used a 2200/2400/2600/2800mah capacity Li-Ion batteries or some will use a Li-Polymer batteries. A 4 x Li-ion configuration plus case would weight about 250-280g generally speaking. a 2 x Li-ion configuration would weight about 130-150g. Because of accessibility in Singapore plus being in office, I generally used a smaller pack like the Andino 5200mah (I personally believe only about 4000mah), which is the size of iPhone 4S. Overall gives me more than enough to last for a day of 12 hours of heavy non-gaming, continuous use. For overseas, I would bring along the 4 x Li-Ion configuration pack as colder weather causes the battery to last shorter in the iPhone 5. This is very useful when you have a friend that needs the extra power boast.

Can share how u DIY? :eek::eek::eek:
 

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Can share how u DIY? :eek::eek::eek:


Buy 18650 batteries like the one below (Panasonic 3100mah)

4pcs Panasonic NCR18650A 3 6V 3100mAh High Capacity Li ion Rechargeable Battery | eBay


Buy portable USB charger case like this (gives me about 27.55whr out of 44.64whr, or about 61.7% efficiency):

5V 2A 18650 Mobile Portable USB Battery Charger Power Supply for Phone MP3 | eBay

Or this gives me only about 22.55whr out of 44.64whr, or about 50.5% efficiency, I need to test again):

Dual USB 5V 2A Mobile Power Supply 18650 Battery Charger Box for iPhone 4S 5 | eBay


I am looking to buy other cases as well as the Panasonic 3400mah 18650 batteries to further increase my capacity LOLx
 

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Hi jason910,

I have the same charger you used, but I built it via DIY method (e.g. buy case and battery from Ebay separately).

There are some chargers that provides efficiency of 50% to 60% generally, meaning the advertised rating (e.g. 10,000mah) would only charge up to 50% (or 5000mah for example) compared to your iPhone battery capacity (about 1400mah++), in another word 3.5 times).

Another thing to look into is the use of Li-Ion (18650 sized batteries) or Li-Polymer (can be flat shape) like the batteries used in mobile phones. Generally speaking, Li-polymer has higher capacity and more effective use of space in a charger. Charger can remain flat, which can be a plus factor for smaller capacity chargers (e.g. much more portable).

I have used mainly the 4 Li-ion battery, 2 Li-ion batteries and Li-Polymer battery based chargers. I noticed that the 5200mah Andino I bought has only 45% efficiency (for Apple products it is very low as normally they have 60% from my other chargers). Since I was just back from Hong Kong yesterday, I also saw similar (in fact identical design, same dimension) chargers at the Sim Lim equivalent mall that labeled them as 4000 or 4500mah chargers. 4000mah is more realistic (giving a 58% efficiency). Basically, what I mean is while they may labeled it as 5200mah, the actual performance could be affected by component parts or even unreliable rating.

If you need at least 3 times (assuming 0-100%) of recharge, you would need about 1450mah x 3 or 4350mah of effective charge. If efficiency is 50%, you will need a 8700mah charger. If efficiency is at 60%, you will need a 7250mah charger. But there is a trade off between having a larger charger (higher capacity, heavier) vs smaller charger (smaller capacity, lighter).

In the market, many chargers used a 2200/2400/2600/2800mah capacity Li-Ion batteries or some will use a Li-Polymer batteries. A 4 x Li-ion configuration plus case would weight about 250-280g generally speaking. a 2 x Li-ion configuration would weight about 130-150g. Because of accessibility in Singapore plus being in office, I generally used a smaller pack like the Andino 5200mah (I personally believe only about 4000mah), which is the size of iPhone 4S. Overall gives me more than enough to last for a day of 12 hours of heavy non-gaming, continuous use. For overseas, I would bring along the 4 x Li-Ion configuration pack as colder weather causes the battery to last shorter in the iPhone 5. This is very useful when you have a friend that needs the extra power boast.


Thanks for the wonderful reply, am trying to understand more. By anyway is the Eneloop Mobile Booster 5000MAH good? Thanks
 

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Thanks for the wonderful reply, am trying to understand more. By anyway is the Eneloop Mobile Booster 5000MAH good? Thanks

Would not give you the 3 charges or more you ask for. At $60++ I have better options. Took too long to charge (7 hours on adapter, 14 hours on USB).
 

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Try yoobao, newtrent, eneloop.


if you want more charges, go yoobao. go GOOGLE on the capacity and find one that suit you. I have one myself for long trips overseas and when i'm out and about for more then 16hrs.

if you just want something to charge with, go eneloop. slow, but steady.
 
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Would not give you the 3 charges or more you ask for. At $60++ I have better options. Took too long to charge (7 hours on adapter, 14 hours on USB).

why you take 7hrs to charge eneloop? when i charge with the supplied charger, i take less then tat to charge from empty to "non-flashing" stage. something wrong with your charger ah? maybe you got faulty set.
 

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why you take 7hrs to charge eneloop? when i charge with the supplied charger, i take less then tat to charge from empty to "non-flashing" stage. something wrong with your charger ah? maybe you got faulty set.

How long did you take to charge?
 

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Buy 18650 batteries like the one below (Panasonic 3100mah)

4pcs Panasonic NCR18650A 3 6V 3100mAh High Capacity Li ion Rechargeable Battery | eBay


Buy portable USB charger case like this (gives me about 27.55whr out of 44.64whr, or about 61.7% efficiency):

5V 2A 18650 Mobile Portable USB Battery Charger Power Supply for Phone MP3 | eBay

Or this gives me only about 22.55whr out of 44.64whr, or about 50.5% efficiency, I need to test again):

Dual USB 5V 2A Mobile Power Supply 18650 Battery Charger Box for iPhone 4S 5 | eBay


I am looking to buy other cases as well as the Panasonic 3400mah 18650 batteries to further increase my capacity LOLx
What's the total capacity using these batteries? Am I correct to say it's 12400mah (3100mah x 4)?

How long does it take to charge from 0 to full?
 

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What's the total capacity using these batteries? Am I correct to say it's 12400mah (3100mah x 4)?

How long does it take to charge from 0 to full?

8-9 hours using a 2A 5V USB output similar to the Apple iPad 2/3/4 charger.
 

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8-9 hours using a 2A 5V USB output similar to the Apple iPad 2/3/4 charger.

How about the capacity? The 18650 batteries and the case add to ~USD$40.

I'm currently thinking of getting this 10000mA which cost ~SGD$40 till I saw you post, how does both compare?

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why you take 7hrs to charge eneloop? when i charge with the supplied charger, i take less then tat to charge from empty to "non-flashing" stage. something wrong with your charger ah? maybe you got faulty set.


my supplied adapter died on me.
i use USB to charge overnight, though longer, but still does its job
 
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