Got accepted to NYP Visual Effects (Need Advice)

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Hi, need advice! I applied for Diploma in Visual Effects course in NYP through DAE and got accepted to it.

I'm currently in TP's Games & Design Development Course but my GPA is kindda low. First sem 1.1 scored 2.39GPA and 1.2 scored 2.09GPA. Year 2 has just started.. Should I accept NYP's offer? (Have until today to confirm the application)

The reason for my application of transfer is because I figured I have more interest in Visual Effects than in Games Development, plus due to the fact that my GPA is pretty low I doubt I will be able to progress to uni.

Another option is I complete my current diploma course and then take up private diploma in visual effects which is a 1 year course and thereafter progress to uni using that cert instead of my local poly's transcript. Either way will also take me 4 years to enter a uni. Which path should i take?

1. Local Poly (3 years) + Private Diploma (1 year) = 4 years damage
2. Withdraw from TP and enroll into NYP (Lose 1 year add 3 years) = 4 years damage

Would appreciate your advice asap as I'm running out of time
 

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This is a place for Degree. Maybe you can ask to transfer this thread to "Diploma program and courses"
 

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path 2 for sure. a private diploma generally carries a social stigma to it, which will not be advantageous in your future job hunts. after your diploma, you can then progress on to a local university if you have a good GPA.

i can think of many reasons to choose a "local" education route rather than a "private" one. cheaper fees, more networking opportunities, more career paths open for you, and etc. this is important as you do not want to close off any paths at such a young age. with a private qualification, you would also miss out the chance to join top tier firms, management programs etc. government sectors generally also do not accept fresh private qualification graduates.

as per the previous post, this is the wrong section to ask this, as it is for degree programs. posting your thread in the correct sections would have more people that are able to assist you.
 

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path 2 for sure. a private diploma generally carries a social stigma to it, which will not be advantageous in your future job hunts. after your diploma, you can then progress on to a local university if you have a good GPA.

i can think of many reasons to choose a "local" education route rather than a "private" one. cheaper fees, more networking opportunities, more career paths open for you, and etc. this is important as you do not want to close off any paths at such a young age. with a private qualification, you would also miss out the chance to join top tier firms, management programs etc. government sectors generally also do not accept fresh private qualification graduates.

as per the previous post, this is the wrong section to ask this, as it is for degree programs. posting your thread in the correct sections would have more people that are able to assist you.

Thanks for the suggestion, but i'm already 24 just for your info would you recommend I still transfer to NYP rather than stay put in my Games course and probably try a private degree somewhere if they accept my poor gpa? Also my apologies for posting in the wrong section, it was a mistake
 

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Thanks for the suggestion, but i'm already 24 just for your info would you recommend I still transfer to NYP rather than stay put in my Games course and probably try a private degree somewhere if they accept my poor gpa? Also my apologies for posting in the wrong section, it was a mistake

if you have no interest in games development at all, why bother staying put in that course since you would not work in a relevant industry in the future? the knowledge gained from the diploma would be put to waste. i still maintain my opinion on this matter.

another possible route for you would be to take a private diploma then progress on to a private degree in a course that interests you. This would actually be better than staying in a local institution for a diploma which you have totally no interest in.

given your age, i would assume you are from ITE (please correct me if i am wrong). i think the question you should ask yourself is, if you are planning on a private dip/degree route all along, why bother working so hard in your ITE days to get into a local polytechnic? you could have went the easy route from the start (private dip - degree)

for your information, during my days in polytechnic, i had one course mate that was 26 years old, he had a wife and children. but he chose to retake his o levels and join a local polytechnic. so rest assured, you are not too old for polytechnic. if you really want to achieve something, i believe that you can definitely do it :)
 

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if you have no interest in games development at all, why bother staying put in that course since you would not work in a relevant industry in the future? the knowledge gained from the diploma would be put to waste. i still maintain my opinion on this matter.

another possible route for you would be to take a private diploma then progress on to a private degree in a course that interests you. This would actually be better than staying in a local institution for a diploma which you have totally no interest in.

given your age, i would assume you are from ITE (please correct me if i am wrong). i think the question you should ask yourself is, if you are planning on a private dip/degree route all along, why bother working so hard in your ITE days to get into a local polytechnic? you could have went the easy route from the start (private dip - degree)

for your information, during my days in polytechnic, i had one course mate that was 26 years old, he had a wife and children. but he chose to retake his o levels and join a local polytechnic. so rest assured, you are not too old for polytechnic. if you really want to achieve something, i believe that you can definitely do it :)

Thanks for the advice, yes i went to ITE first. I have interest in games as well but seeing my recent GPA fail so badly, I'm not cut out for the course.. At the same time I will feel bad having to repeat another year in of year 1 in Poly... Haiz the private way seems the most ideal to me but I would have to work full-time for a year before affording the fees, also i would feel more secure completing the tp games course before taking a private diploma since i left 2 years. But at my current GPA of 2.1 not worth to stay on right?
 
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Thanks for the advice, yes i went to ITE first. I have interest in games as well but seeing my recent GPA fail so badly, I'm not cut out for the course.. At the same time I will feel bad having to repeat another year in of year 1 in Poly... Haiz the private way seems the most ideal to me but I would have to work full-time for a year before affording the fees, also i would feel more secure completing the tp games course before taking a private diploma since i left 2 years. But at my current GPA of 2.1 not worth to stay on right?

Let's put aside Gpa for the moment, do you foresee yourself working in jobs involving visual effects or developing more? You will spend the next 30-40 years of your life working, so I really think there is no need to rush education. What is the additional year compared to the future years spent working?

On a side note, I was from TP and took game design as one of my elective too, for an accounting student I found the course (even as an elective) to be really tough as well.
 

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A food for thought.

Do you think you will have an easier time passing your modules for private diploma?
Are you confident you can score better for private diploma than poly?

I wouldn't want you to think that private = no low gpa.
 

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A food for thought.

Do you think you will have an easier time passing your modules for private diploma?
Are you confident you can score better for private diploma than poly?

I wouldn't want you to think that private = no low gpa.

I wouldn't say i would have an easier time, but i would say that my interest is more to the artistic and design part of either game or videos therefore i think visual effects MAY be the better choice. For my current game course there are only 4 subjects that is design related here is my current course's modules: Diploma in Game Design and Development (T58) | School of Information & IT | Full Time Courses | Temasek Polytechnic
According to the course structure info, I would only be able to learn:
1. 3D Game Texturing, Lighting & Animation
2. Game Modelling
3. Advanced Game Modelling
4. Advanced Game Design

Do you think it's sufficient enough in getting into the digital media industry with just those 4 modules above? Or will my better bet be the visual effects course?

Let's put aside Gpa for the moment, do you foresee yourself working in jobs involving visual effects or developing more? You will spend the next 30-40 years of your life working, so I really think there is no need to rush education. What is the additional year compared to the future years spent working?

On a side note, I was from TP and took game design as one of my elective too, for an accounting student I found the course (even as an elective) to be really tough as well.

Not too sure, what if I can't forsee but I know I have an interest in both games development (design and artistic side) and visual effects?
 

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Hi, need advice! I applied for Diploma in Visual Effects course in NYP through DAE and got accepted to it.

I'm currently in TP's Games & Design Development Course but my GPA is kindda low. First sem 1.1 scored 2.39GPA and 1.2 scored 2.09GPA. Year 2 has just started.. Should I accept NYP's offer? (Have until today to confirm the application)

The reason for my application of transfer is because I figured I have more interest in Visual Effects than in Games Development, plus due to the fact that my GPA is pretty low I doubt I will be able to progress to uni.

Another option is I complete my current diploma course and then take up private diploma in visual effects which is a 1 year course and thereafter progress to uni using that cert instead of my local poly's transcript. Either way will also take me 4 years to enter a uni. Which path should i take?

1. Local Poly (3 years) + Private Diploma (1 year) = 4 years damage
2. Withdraw from TP and enroll into NYP (Lose 1 year add 3 years) = 4 years damage

Would appreciate your advice asap as I'm running out of time

I hardly post in forum but your question got my attention. I would like to offer you an alternative thinking, why not remain in your course and pull up your socks? I think if you score mostly A or B in your next 2 years in TP, you might bring up your GPA to 3.0 and above.

I would say Game Development would give you more options than Visual Effect because as what I can see in your current course structure, there are database, programming, computer networking, Maths, it will bring up more options for you to choose your degree when you graduate.

I can't seem to find the course structure for NYP Visual Effects. My suggestion is you already wasted 1 year of time and that's a lot in Singapore, considering you spent 2 years of time in NS. Since you want to further study to uni especially in Art/Design course, they will look more into your portfolio rather than your grades. GPA is like secondary to them.

I will be interested to know who will agree or disagree with me here. I am pretty sure most people will agree on my point of view here because it's too damn logical and forward thinking. :s13:
 

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I hardly post in forum but your question got my attention. I would like to offer you an alternative thinking, why not remain in your course and pull up your socks? I think if you score mostly A or B in your next 2 years in TP, you might bring up your GPA to 3.0 and above.

I would say Game Development would give you more options than Visual Effect because as what I can see in your current course structure, there are database, programming, computer networking, Maths, it will bring up more options for you to choose your degree when you graduate.

I can't seem to find the course structure for NYP Visual Effects. My suggestion is you already wasted 1 year of time and that's a lot in Singapore, considering you spent 2 years of time in NS. Since you want to further study to uni especially in Art/Design course, they will look more into your portfolio rather than your grades. GPA is like secondary to them.

I will be interested to know who will agree or disagree with me here. I am pretty sure most people will agree on my point of view here because it's too damn logical and forward thinking. :s13:

Hi Xing Yi, here's the nyp visual effects course structure, after seeing this are your thoughts still the same?
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Degree course will really bother going through each poly's course structure to see whether the course's graduate would be eligible for their degree program?
 
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Hi Xing Yi, here's the nyp visual effects course structure, after seeing this are your thoughts still the same?
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Degree course will really bother going through each poly's course structure to see whether the course's graduate would be eligible for their degree program?

Yes my thought is still the same, and if you want certain modules exemption, they need to see into it. Now for eg. if you take up Visual Effect, and you suddenly change of interest want to become a game programmer for eg. You will lack the the modules in computer networking, database and game engine physic, etc.. It's best to cover breath than depth in diploma if you have a switch of mind what to do in your degree programme.

That's why a hybrid diploma like IT Business, IT Engineering, for eg.. will give you a better advantage of switching to other field of studies rather than one focus diploma.

Anyway it's still up to you where your real passion is really in. If no intent of becoming game programmer, it wouldn't harm to have a designer to know programming. And it might turn out to be your advantage knowing the extra stuff most designer don't know.
 

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Yes my thought is still the same, and if you want certain modules exemption, they need to see into it. Now for eg. if you take up Visual Effect, and you suddenly change of interest want to become a game programmer for eg. You will lack the the modules in computer networking, database and game engine physic, etc.. It's best to cover breath than depth in diploma if you have a switch of mind what to do in your degree programme.

That's why a hybrid diploma like IT Business, IT Engineering, for eg.. will give you a better advantage of switching to other field of studies rather than one focus diploma.

Anyway it's still up to you where your real passion is really in. If no intent of becoming game programmer, it wouldn't harm to have a designer to know programming. And it might turn out to be your advantage knowing the extra stuff most designer don't know.

Thanks for the advice! But if i were to stay on this course and my final GPA were to be around 2.5 do you think a digital media uni would accept me? I'm just roughly gaudging my final gpa now as the past 2 sem I tried my best but still gotten gpa 2.39(sem 1.1) and gpa 2.09(sem 1.2)
 
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Thanks for the advice! But if i were to stay on this course and my final GPA were to be around 2.5 do you think a digital media uni would accept me? I'm just roughly gaudging my final gpa now as the past 2 sem I tried my best but still gotten gpa 2.39(sem 1.1) and gpa 2.09(sem 1.2)

You list down all the modules in Year 1 and Year 2 what are the grades you gotten and I analyse to see which area of subject you are good in.

Depends on which uni you are talking about, in this case you should try to get involved more in other areas like taking part in design competition, etc.. have extra software certification like Adobe or whatever.

This will give a good boost of consideration for those interviewers. Passion and determination are one of the key factors in this industry.

And oh ya, do you know after completing your diploma, you can work for 2 years and go for a 1 year Specialist Diploma by any of the local poly. Then probably you can use that in addition to apply for uni.
 

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You list down all the modules in Year 1 and Year 2 what are the grades you gotten and I analyse to see which area of subject you are good in.

Depends on which uni you are talking about, in this case you should try to get involved more in other areas like taking part in design competition, etc.. have extra software certification like Adobe or whatever.

This will give a good boost of consideration for those interviewers. Passion and determination are one of the key factors in this industry.

And oh ya, do you know after completing your diploma, you can work for 2 years and go for a 1 year Specialist Diploma by any of the local poly. Then probably you can use that in addition to apply for uni.

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here are my grade so far! Please advice soon!
 
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here are my grade so far! Please advice soon!

Okay, from what I see, put communication skill aside, maths is your weakest subject followed by data related modules like database and data structure. I think no point switching to Visual Effect since they also have maths and you may also suffer from the grades.

Still decision lies in you, what I think is in your current course, you do pretty well in networking and maybe you can do better in programming. This will put you in better light, but Math is your killer and you should overcome this.

This is a root cause analysis that I have performed on you, it is not whether you are more interested in which course, it is whether you are motivated enough to overcome your weakness in some modules. Because no point you switch to another course with similar modules that you are weak in and still get around the same grades.

You will still be back to square one. In digital media, creativity isn't just enough, you need the technical skill in order to create what you want and not bounded by the limit of technical skill. Most arts student have the creativity but what makes you stand out is that you have more capability to create stuff that they can't, this will make you more valuable in future workplace. For eg, they need to hire a programmer just because you don't know how to script a simple game like fappy bird? If you know how to script while other designer don't know, you are more valuable.
 

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Okay, from what I see, put communication skill aside, maths is your weakest subject followed by data related modules like database and data structure. I think no point switching to Visual Effect since they also have maths and you may also suffer from the grades.

Still decision lies in you, what I think is in your current course, you do pretty well in networking and maybe you can do better in programming. This will put you in better light, but Math is your killer and you should overcome this.

This is a root cause analysis that I have performed on you, it is not whether you are more interested in which course, it is whether you are motivated enough to overcome your weakness in some modules. Because no point you switch to another course with similar modules that you are weak in and still get around the same grades.

You will still be back to square one. In digital media, creativity isn't just enough, you need the technical skill in order to create what you want and not bounded by the limit of technical skill. Most arts student have the creativity but what makes you stand out is that you have more capability to create stuff that they can't, this will make you more valuable in future workplace. For eg, they need to hire a programmer just because you don't know how to script a simple game like fappy bird? If you know how to script while other designer don't know, you are more valuable.

Hi Xing Yi, what i know is in the visual effects nyp course they have reduce mathematics subject down to 1 instead of 2 subjects. So even if i score low for that 1 math subject it wouldn't bring down my grades that badly than my games course which has 3.. :( But of cause I hate the idea of repeating year 1 and going backwards, running in circles so it is high risk if i transfer to vfx.. Do you think it will be better if i endure complete my games course than go to private diploma in vfx at 3D sense since they only require 1 year? It is a more safer less risk alternative right?
 
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