[GPGT] Hokkaido in Winter

Kunkka

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Not my first time driving in winter, did previously in finland, norway, germany, austria, but this time round was probably the most uneventful ( which was good )

There were a few things I could summarise from driving in winter in japan :

- Upon arrival at new Chitose Airport we headed to the rental department where all the various companies congregate their counters. No one at Nissan counter but a landlined phone was there to call for assistance. Nissan drove a mini bus to pick us up from the airport to their rental, which was <10 min bus ride. Upon returning the car, they will similarly have a minibus to ferry us back New Chitose airport. If car is ETC enabled, I believe have to pay the fees incured via ETC toll before leaving.

- Unfortunately my car was not ETC card equipped ( they told me they ran out of the ETC ?card ) Please do try to get ETC enabled vehicles - much more convenient than paying cash manually at non ETC gantry ( While most gantries have a non ETC gantry, saw one small entry into the expressway that only accepts ETC enabled cars..

- Snow/winter tyres are essential. Chains not compulsory, I have never tried driving with chains on although there was ever one european trip the company provided a set in the boot.

- Make sure car came with ice scraper / snow brush. Always give ample time, sometimes clearing snow over the car can take a good few minutes of workout before road worthy. Have ur vicom help clear internal misting / fogging . There was one morning the freezing was inside the car windscreen.

- Cities largely follow a grid layout, so driving is simple even if you miss a turn you can easily make a turn further. But the grid layout also means extreme numbers of traffic lights .. The grid layout in Sapporo with the green Odori belt was apparently planned by an American.

- Braking distance is increased, really no tailgating, even with what I thought was adequate spacing, nearly hit the vehicle in front on a gentle downslope if not because I veered into the turning lane beside.

- Roads can be slippery esp in mornings with black ice.

- In central / northern areas where snow piles higher than vehicles beside the roads, creating multiple blindspots. Do not do quick turns only to realise a pedestrian was crossing. Not an issue in Sapporo as they clear the snow more rigorously, but likely the norm in Asahikawa and other northern / central towns.

- Because roads are pratically snow covered, look for blue signages and pedestrian lights to have an idea of where to brake before red lights.

- Japanese traffic lights are on the whole pretty self explanatory, there are way more discretionary right turns than locally in Sg. Larger busier junctions usually are equipped with right turn traffic lights to help direct traffic, the smaller ones have to exercise judgement, especially when most of them have a pedestrain crossing as a first thing to encounter when you turn.

- Roads can be closed in winter but Google Map / Waze may be unaware.

- A higher clearance 4x4 is recommended, else can be especially bumpy on certain roads , or covered roads during heavy snowing.

- if concerned with slipping / losing traction / bumpy rides, try to follow the tyre tracks of cars on roads.

- On a two way road, the center divider has heap of snow which can be slippery when trying to change lanes for overtaking, apply more caution doing lane changing.

- Avoid the urge to swerve or make large corrective turns on the wheel when the car loses traction as it might spin the vehicle.

- Self explanatory, avoid entering a corner at excessive speed, especially if downhill. But was one night while driving back we got smoked bya small white hatchback drifting at hairpin loops down a mountain pass, and assuming it was a cheaper front wheel drive vehicle, it was serious skillz with marbles of titanium, probably a local.

- Street lights are almost non existent outside township, you will be lucky if there are reflector markers, need to turn on high beam but be corteous and dip lights with oncoming traffic

- Parking in private gantried carparks, no standardisation but some comes with individual; physical barriers that lifts with payment, some have cameras etc. Multistory carparks can be rather tight. Alot of money can be spent on parking fees, so best seek out Airbnbs with parking lots and save the pain hunting for carparks at the end of the day. In Sapporo, there were nights my carpark was just across the street, but there was a night my carpark had to be a 0.5km walk away.. Their parking fees make our MBS parking look reasonable . Some manned multistory carparks have complicated cheaper ticket fares that needs to be physically redeemed from the carpark attendants upon parking (* quite silly and inefficient ) , remember to read up google reviews of carpark u are parking.
U got follow speed limit on the toll Road cos I most definitely didnt

Went asahidake ropeway in may and it was all white too did u need to wear shades to protect your eyes?
 
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10. Asahiyama Zoo. Definitely worth a visit. Carpark was huge but almost near packed by 1030.
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Everyone flanking to wait for ..
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13. Penguins
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Unfortunately in the middle of trip my old mirrorless Autofocus died, back to full manual focusing. Tedious shooting animals on manual focusing.

Also the A7r seemed to malfunction and locks up settings adjustment when temperature hits lower than -5, which is unfortunate since my old 5d/5d2 could function at -30 previously ..
Did they show the orangutans?
 

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U got follow speed limit on the toll Road cos I most definitely didnt

Went asahidake ropeway in may and it was all white too did u need to wear shades to protect your eyes?

I would say on the tolled expressways >50% dun. Some stretches had 80km/hr signages, and many had 60km/hr stretches.

There was one particular drive back Sapporo where a police vehicle appeared and every car was just timidly following behind it for a good 20min before it finally exited. We were all going at around 100-110kmph with the police car heading the pack machiam F1 safety car.

Some parts I wear shades when driving else the whiteness esp under sun can fatigue the eyes.

Visibility can be quite poor during the early mornings if there is mist.


Did they show the orangutans?

Got orangutans.

I was there in Dec on packaged tour, saw a few incidences of car buang off the roadside. The local tour guide say most likely driven by tourists.

This time round my driving was quite uneventful didn see any of those as well.

But previously I have seen a VW minibus flip and the youngsters chatting and laughing while waiting for help in Norway.

I myself has gotten stuck in snow in finland needing to hike out to ask for help because phone no more data and the silly emergency number refused to help and asked me to call toll companies instead wtf..

Other stuffs I kenned previously were mostly lost of traction grazing guardrails, gliding into people's front porch, losing traction on Autobahn because didn realize the middle divider was so slippery but thankfully no accident, and there was a whiteout across my windscreen beside a lake once near Hallstat..
 

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Reminded me of the guy in edmw icekosong (?) who like hokkaido too. Where is he now? Dont seem to see his postings now?
think there was a saga where someone exposed his photos and his workplace? few years back i think
 

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how did u dress for hokkaido in winter?

from this pic it looks like people just have heavy jacket but bottom just wear normal jeans? not cold meh?

Thermal and a puffy shell from uniqlo for top. Uniqlo is near half price in Japan vs Sg.

Bottom was usually just thermal but I have a pair of winter trousers for colder places.

Retrospectively my ( large ) sneakers was not a good choice. have to heat dry them near the dryer at the end of each day.

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I do see several ladies baring their legs in Sapporo, and even in colder Asahikawa.

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Good meal at Sapporo Kaniya Honten

Ordered a crab kaseiki and a sukiyaki set

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and many other assorted accompaniments in the set. Offhand their miso soup was good.
:love: :love: :love:
 

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Thermal and a puffy shell from uniqlo for top. Uniqlo is near half price in Japan vs Sg.

Bottom was usually just thermal but I have a pair of winter trousers for colder places.

Retrospectively my ( large ) sneakers was not a good choice. have to heat dry them near the dryer at the end of each day.

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thermal as in uniqlo heat tech?

if its snowing i wouldnt think those shoes would make it. snow will melt and your shoes will get soaked
 

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Thermal and a puffy shell from uniqlo for top. Uniqlo is near half price in Japan vs Sg.

Bottom was usually just thermal but I have a pair of winter trousers for colder places.

Retrospectively my ( large ) sneakers was not a good choice. have to heat dry them near the dryer at the end of each day.

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ts u wear running sneaker go walk snow ur feet smelly or not?? :crazy:
i dunno like this also can. :crazy:
 

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Nice

Winter is my favorite season.

Love the snow. White. Weather cool. No sweat. Can go skiing.

Snowing now in Calgary. Planning where to go skiing on Tuesday.

Was just at a Jap restaurant and heard lady talking loudly next table. Singaporean accent 🤣
 

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ts u wear running sneaker go walk snow ur feet smelly or not?? :crazy:
i dunno like this also can. :crazy:

Bulky sneakers

Have to dry them next to the heater end of the day else the wetness I think will probably smell :sneaky:

I change my thick socks everyday.

Anyway wrong choice of shoes. My last pair of winter boots cui-ed and I had too much inertia to get another pair
 

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10. Asahiyama Zoo. Definitely worth a visit. Carpark was huge but almost near packed by 1030.
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13. Penguins
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Unfortunately in the middle of trip my old mirrorless Autofocus died, back to full manual focusing. Tedious shooting animals on manual focusing.

Also the A7r seemed to malfunction and locks up settings adjustment when temperature hits lower than -5, which is unfortunate since my old 5d/5d2 could function at -30 previously ..
Very nice TS! Remind me on my earlier trip in 2019, but didn't manage to see the line up of the Penguins at Asahiyama Zoo...we went beginning of December and the snow not thick enough for them
 
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