[GPGT] Making Coffee with the SMEG Bean-To-Coffee Automatic Coffee Machine BCC12 – My Short Review

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Just received and an intro to the machine first for my coffee beans will arrive next week. More pictures then.
The SMEG automatic coffee machine's working is very simple. Just imagine it is a vending machine for different coffee types.

It is not exactly fully automatic for making milk coffee is manual. This is not a new released machine. Many YT videos available to watch

Bought directly from SMEG Singapore for $1088 with free delivery. First time owning a coffee machine. Lazy to manual brew and would like to try out different types of coffee. Also, to save costs, no need to go to coffee shops, StarBucks or other coffee outlets to drink

NOTE – Beans roasted with butter/oil (like local beans bought from coffee provision shops) can cause the machine to clog, jam and damage the grinder. This is a typical problem of coffee machines grinding such beans. Avoid dark roast beans for they are typically oily

PROS

1) Simple to operate and clean
2) Slimmer in width than many semi-auto and superautomatic machines
3) Making coffee is automatic at the press of a button. No need barista-style manual operation.
4) Has a steam wand for milk frothing so no need to turn on oven to microwave the milk or put the milk on the stove to heat it
5) Milk do not pass inside and then out of coffee machine making the cleaning of the removable steam wand very easy. Also, milk is consumed as needed so no balanced milk in milk container unlike in those superautomatic coffee machine otherwise the balanced milk will be spoiled if not consume.
6) Water tank of 1.4L of water capacity is just nice for 2 days fresh water and to prevent organic growth in water tank.
7) Has a built-in stainless steel burr grinder to grind whole beans. Can adjust from coarse to very fine grinding (5 steps)
8) Self-clean the dispenser nozzle during startup and shutdown
9) Can check and set water hardness
10) Can clean the machine internal circuits (coffee and milk) and comes with descaling capability too
11) Adjustable coffee dispenser to cater to different height of glass cup/container
12) As a nice touch, during coffee dispensing, there’s a light at the dispenser (see below picture in post #7)
13) Has alarms for empty/missing water tank, empty coffee beans container, full/missing coffee grounds drawer, control required on brewing group/chamber and descaling recommendation/descaling mandatory. High water level in the drip tray is indicated by a red float popup indicator
14) The machine allows the customization of the amount of coffee or water dispensed
15) The brewing group is removed on the left side without being obstructed by any machine part e.g. water tank. Just ensure no other obstruction is there
16) Machine auto shuts off after 30 mins of inactivity
17) No need to struggle with manual grinding, tampering, selecting right time/temp for brewing etc
18) Can use any liquid commercial descaler for coffee machine
19) Can buy the SMEG water softener filter to make the water from medium to soft
20) This machine is good enough for a single user drinking 2 - 3 cups of coffee per day with its 1.4L capacity water tank. Need to top up water and empty coffee pucks about every 2 days. A 12 oz packet of coffee beans will be consumed within a week. In short, this is a simple machine for people with simple needs
21) Allows one to make coffee art using manual milk frothing
22) White color available locally

CONS

1) Noisy when grinding beans
2) Cannot use ground coffee and coffee pods. Only for whole beans
3) Cannot use filter paper
4) Only comes with one thermoblock
5) Limited customization options. No temperature control, no brewing time control, no grind size recommendation, no different froths selection, no cold brew, no cup warmer, no built-in scale to grind by weight, no different user profile settings etc
6) Cannot dispense coffee and at the same time froth the milk
7) No color digital screen for display. Use buttons only.
8) Only 5 steps for coffee bean grinding
9) If you need to change different coffee beans (e.g. decaf beans to caffeinated beans etc) all the coffee beans in the beans hopper need to be fully used up before you can change.
10) Because the water tank is on the back putting the machine on a countertop with top cabinets may prevent the removable of the water tank
11) Cannot purge grind from previous setting like purging coarse grind out before starting the use of fine grind and vice versa
12) Cannot strip grinder for cleaning
13) Making milk coffee is manual
14) Auto shut off time cannot be customized
15) No dual bean hopper(s) for different bean types
16) Cannot use beans roasted with oil/butter (like local beans bought from coffee provision shops) and French roast/dark roast/medium dark roast/full city roast beans which are typically oily.
17) Need to pay for optional water softener filter, if needed
 
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Top picture

Coffee puck container and drip tray

2nd picture

Brewing group

3rd picture

1.4L water tank. Lucky can clear my top cabinet

Bottom picture

Coffee bean hopper with coarse/fine adjustment
 
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[GPGT] Making Coffee with the SMEG Bean-To-Coffee Automatic Coffee Machine BCC12 – My Short Review​

BCC02 or BCC12? I only know BCC01 (no frother) and BCC02 (with frother).

I was saying in my thread … my machine:

BEKO_SDA_CEG5311X_SS_SIDE.png


Looks suspiciously similar doesn’t it? That’s because come from same OEM :wink: Google Tchibo or Simplissima, you will find those machines look suspiciously similar as well. All same internals, spare parts for 1 brand can use in any of the others. I can take my brewgroup put in your Smeg and it will work just fine, because the only difference is your brewgroup got the Smeg word.

I paid $200 for mine, imported from overseas :o
 

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BCC02 or BCC12? I only know BCC01 (no frother) and BCC02 (with frother).

I was saying in my thread … my machine:

BEKO_SDA_CEG5311X_SS_SIDE.png


Looks suspiciously similar doesn’t it? That’s because come from same OEM :wink: Google Tchibo or Simplissima, you will find those machines look suspiciously similar as well. All same internals, spare parts for 1 brand can use in any of the others. I can take my brewgroup put in your Smeg and it will work just fine, because the only difference is your brewgroup got the Smeg word.

I paid $200 for mine, imported from overseas :o
BCC02 is the older model. You can go to SMEG Singapore website to check out

What SMEG told me is that BCC12 is the new SKU number
 

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Sibeh kan chiong. Making my 1st cup of one-shot espresso




Taste not sour nor bitter. Maybe because of the coffee beans

Now no need to go SB or other coffee outlets to drink liao. Coffee shop also no need to go ah. Imagine the money I can save.

:D
 
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BCC02 or BCC12? I only know BCC01 (no frother) and BCC02 (with frother).

I was saying in my thread … my machine:

BEKO_SDA_CEG5311X_SS_SIDE.png


Looks suspiciously similar doesn’t it? That’s because come from same OEM :wink: Google Tchibo or Simplissima, you will find those machines look suspiciously similar as well. All same internals, spare parts for 1 brand can use in any of the others. I can take my brewgroup put in your Smeg and it will work just fine, because the only difference is your brewgroup got the Smeg word.

I paid $200 for mine, imported from overseas :o

top up a bit....
 

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Sibeh kan chiong. Making my 1st cup of one-shot espresso




Taste not sour nor bitter. Maybe because of the coffee beans

Now no need to go SB or other coffee outlets to drink liao. Coffee shop also no need to go ah. Imagine the money I can save.

:D
You make your coffee already you got immediately open up wash your brewgroup and dump the puck? Or you bochap leave it in there? My machine some times the puck drop slanted towards the front, 2 slanted pucks on top of each other will trigger the tray full already.

1 thing I realised … superautomatic really need to manage expectations a bit … if you anal about the brewgroup got some leftover from the last shot stuck on it, or the ground coffee doesn’t drop into the brewgroup perfectly and scatter over the drip tray, so you end up taking everything out to wash after every use … you will find that it is even more troublesome than say, a Breville.
 

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You make your coffee already you got immediately open up wash your brewgroup and dump the puck? Or you bochap leave it in there? My machine some times the puck drop slanted towards the front, 2 slanted pucks on top of each other will trigger the tray full already.

1 thing I realised … superautomatic really need to manage expectations a bit … if you anal about the brewgroup got some leftover from the last shot stuck on it, or the ground coffee doesn’t drop into the brewgroup perfectly and scatter over the drip tray, so you end up taking everything out to wash after every use … you will find that it is even more troublesome than say, a Breville.

Yup, noticed some coffee powder in the drip tray. I'll double check on this later on. I also just opened the brewing group and check. Yes, a few bits of leftovers maybe because I made espresso which uses very little coffee beans. I'm not seeing a nice expresso puck but some waste powder instead. Later I'll make a cup of black coffee and check again

JFI, I just watched YT and also noticed the De'longhi Rivelia Fully Automatic Coffee Machine also has this problem of coffee powder in the drip tray.

I drink the most 2 cups of coffee a day. So can wash up at the end of the day
 
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There is one china brand Dr coffee.

Quite expensive. Not sure good or not.
 

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The crema doesn't looks good but it's still a fresh cup of good coffee
 

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The crema doesn't looks good but it's still a fresh cup of good coffee

The crema in an espresso is affected by several factors, including the type of coffee beans used, the roast level, the freshness of the beans, the grind size and tamping technique, as well as the water temperature and pressure during brewing. A well-prepared crema indicates a quality espresso, while variations in these factors can lead to differences in its thickness, color, and stability.
 

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Don't crazy go use Mineral water hor. Want to make it more alkaline just put baking soda. :(
 

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Just received and an intro to the machine first for my coffee beans will arrive next week. More pictures then.

It is not exactly fully automatic for making milk coffee is manual. This is not a new released machine. Many YT videos available to watch

Bought directly from SMEG Singapore for $1088 with free delivery. First time owning a coffee machine. Lazy to manual brew and would like to try out different types of coffee. Also, to save costs, no need to go to StarBucks or other coffee outlets to drink

NOTE – Beans roasted with butter/oil (like local beans bought from coffee provision shops) can cause the machine to clog, jam and damage the grinder. This is a typical problem of coffee machines grinding such beans. Avoid dark roast beans for they are typically oily

PROS

1) Simple to operate and clean
2) Slimmer in width than many semi-auto and fully automatic machines
3) Making coffee is automatic at the press of a button. No need barista-style manual operation.
4) Has a steam wand for milk frothing so no need to turn on oven to microwave the milk or put the milk on the stove to heat it
5) Milk do not pass inside and then out of coffee machine making the cleaning of the removable steam wand very easy. Also, milk is consumed as needed so no balanced milk in milk container like in fully auto machine otherwise the balanced milk will be spoiled if not consume.
6) Water tank of 1400ml of water is good for 2 days of 250ml (5.6 cups) of coffee. Capacity is just nice for fresh water and to prevent organic growth in water tank.
7) Has a built-in stainless steel burr grinder to grind whole beans. Can adjust from coarse to very fine grinding
8) Self-clean the dispenser nozzle during startup and shutdown
9) Can check and set water hardness
10) Can clean the machine internal circuits (coffee and milk) and comes with descaling capability too
11) Adjustable coffee dispenser to cater to different height of glass cup/container
12) As a nice touch, during coffee dispensing, there’s a light at the dispenser (see below picture in post #7)
13) Has alarms for empty/missing water tank, empty coffee beans container, full/missing coffee grounds drawer, control required on brewing group/chamber and descaling recommendation/descaling mandatory. High water level in the drip tray is indicated by a red float popup indicator
14) Can dispense different quantity for each type of coffee
15) Machine auto shuts off after 30 mins of inactivity


CONS

1) Noisy when grinding beans
2) Cannot use ground coffee and coffee pods. Only for whole beans
3) Cannot use filter paper
4) Only comes with one thermoblock
5) No temperature control, no brewing time control, no grind size recommendation, no different froths selection, no cold brew, no cup warmer, no built-in scale to grind by weight etc
6) Cannot dispense coffee and at the same time froth the milk
7) No color digital screen for display. Use buttons only.
8) If you need to change different coffee beans (e.g. decaf beans to caffeinated beans etc) all the coffee beans in the beans hopper need to be fully used up before you can change.
9) Because the water tank is on the back putting the machine on a countertop with top cabinets may prevent the removable of the water tank
10) Cannot purge grind from previous setting like purging coarse grind out before starting the use of fine grind and vice versa
11) Cannot strip grinder for cleaning
How many cups ur family daily?
 

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lazy to find coffee bean thread so i hijack a bit.

I am looking for KONA Hawaii bean equivalent in SG, right now i only see BACHA and AMazon gt any other local roaster have it ?

budget about 100 per Kg
 

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The crema in an espresso is affected by several factors, including the type of coffee beans used, the roast level, the freshness of the beans, the grind size and tamping technique, as well as the water temperature and pressure during brewing. A well-prepared crema indicates a quality espresso, while variations in these factors can lead to differences in its thickness, color, and stability.
Get a better grinder and U will notice the difference
 
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