HardwareZone mentioned in news article re: TraceTogether tokens

Roundtreex · Oct 28, 2020

actman said:
Every post in any thread in EDMW are taken seriously.
just that ppl are not realising it

Yaya singapore property, bitcoin and apple is crashing!!

netbookcraze · Oct 28, 2020

BrOwnTeddy said:
Computer Misuse Act.

U don't need every single damned law passed on every single device.
If thats the case, u will have a "Singpass Law", "NRIC user law", "Passport Law" since all these are property of SG Govt.

I dun get you.

Nric and passport are our legal identity document. Is this token also our legal identity document too??

Singpass is not a hard token or documents.

Shinji.Ikari · Oct 28, 2020

tolong la can u all behave yourself anot i beg u!!!!!!

mryang · Oct 28, 2020

QR code of TT token is the Mac address of the token an example:
78:78:11:45: GH:89( if you put : in between)
78781145GH89

If I am not wrong

Mean at the entrance you are pairing your TT token to reader. And how far is it can receive?

Is just like to pair your newly Bluetooth ear piece or fitness tracker.

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skylink67 · Oct 28, 2020

Lemon_Tea said:
I was hoping there will be a law that govern (and limit) the use of the token. However, there isn't. As the news article mentioned, any attempt to hinder or obstruct contact tracing effort could be charged under Infectious Disease Act. Although there is also suggestion that modding the token will contravene Computer Misuse Act (CMA), some forumer remains skeptical if CMA can reach that far.

SG is very fast in flip prata. Don't worry about the rules/law. They will come in fast and furious and then flip again.

jojo_jotaro · Oct 28, 2020

mryang said:
QR code of TT token is the Mac address of the token an example:
78:78:11:45: GH:89( if you put : in between)
78781145GH89
If I am not wrong

Mean at the entrance you are pairing your TT token to reader. And how far is it can receive?

Is just like to pair your newly Bluetooth ear piece or fitness tracker.

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That's pretty stupid.. it means the token's MAC is most likely fixed.. and that also means I can literally sniff out for those and stalk anyone I want. At least Android phones switches their BT Mac Addresses frequently.

It also means I can just generate a random MAC and generate a QR code out of it and it'll still work at any entrance.

mryang · Oct 28, 2020

Those using app what they scan is your phone Mac address.

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mryang · Oct 28, 2020

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whatmeworry · Oct 28, 2020

This is quite true.
Might not last three months for someone with oily hands.

mryang said:
TT app
1. Drain battery
2. Need to on your phone Bluetooth
3. App will auto keep start after close and run behind your phone.*( Idk)
4. App need to update and patch.
5. Can hack by hacker to steal your identity and data.
6. Need to open to scan for safe entry
7. Cannot detect asymptomatic covid19

TT token:
1. Need to bring everywhere you go.
2. Battery might become weak after a couple of month
3. Need extra capacitor or battery to power the memory ram
4. Not sure how much data can the ram read and write.
5. Need to bring it out to scan for safe entry
6. Cannot detect asymptomatic covid19 .can it?
7. Detecting might be have error due to many device in the area with Bluetooth.
8. Bluetooth signal might cause some illness ( not sure how strong the Bluetooth signal since it needed to detect other TT token around the same area)
9. Not water and rain resistance
10. QR code is too small and might get smudges after a while?

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tokiya · Oct 28, 2020

Why you burst their bubble, our gahmen spend so much money on this, WE MUST USE IT AT ALL COSTS!!!

mryang said:
TT app
1. Drain battery
2. Need to on your phone Bluetooth
3. App will auto keep start after close and run behind your phone.*( Idk)
4. App need to update and patch.
5. Can hack by hacker to steal your identity and data.
6. Need to open to scan for safe entry
7. Cannot detect asymptomatic covid19

TT token:
1. Need to bring everywhere you go.
2. Battery might become weak after a couple of month
3. Need extra capacitor or battery to power the memory ram
4. Not sure how much data can the ram read and write.
5. Need to bring it out to scan for safe entry
6. Cannot detect asymptomatic covid19 .can it?
7. Detecting might be have error due to many device in the area with Bluetooth.
8. Bluetooth signal might cause some illness ( not sure how strong the Bluetooth signal since it needed to detect other TT token around the same area)
9. Not water and rain resistance
10. QR code is too small and might get smudges after a while?

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mryang · Oct 28, 2020

jojo_jotaro said:
That's pretty stupid.. it means the token's MAC is most likely fixed.. and that also means I can literally sniff out for those and stalk anyone I want. At least Android phones switches their BT Mac Addresses frequently.

It also means I can just generate a random MAC and generate a QR code out of it and it'll still work at any entrance.

Idk need some expert

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mryang · Oct 28, 2020

tokiya said:
Why you burst their bubble, our gahmen spend so much money on this, WE MUST USE IT AT ALL COSTS!!!

Errrr ok ok

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jojo_jotaro · Oct 29, 2020

Found an article on medium explaining TT on a technical level https://johnxquek.medium.com/the-pitfalls-of-tracetogether-b3778c55badb basically a lot of the points we've brought up here before.

mryang · Oct 29, 2020

jojo_jotaro said:
Found an article on medium explaining TT on a technical level https://johnxquek.medium.com/the-pitfalls-of-tracetogether-b3778c55badb basically a lot of the points we've brought up here before.

Ok thanks

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Temperance · Oct 29, 2020

junjie433 said:
"Any deliberate or mischievous act to tamper with the token is a criminal offence under the Computer Misuse Act," he said.

Edmwer better change/mod back.

Useless government

mryang · Oct 29, 2020

Wow oos???

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blasterlord2 · Oct 29, 2020

jojo_jotaro said:
That's pretty stupid.. it means the token's MAC is most likely fixed.. and that also means I can literally sniff out for those and stalk anyone I want. At least Android phones switches their BT Mac Addresses frequently.

It also means I can just generate a random MAC and generate a QR code out of it and it'll still work at any entrance.

Why would you need to stalk someone who's already near you?

swageat · Oct 29, 2020

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source:
https://token.gowhere.gov.sg/

swageat · Oct 29, 2020

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CSNation · Oct 29, 2020

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