High performance low power desktop

[testerjp]

If I'm looking for a PC that can game and do graphics.
At the same time not as power hungry, is there any particular build I should be going?

 

[NightRaven49]

how low do u want to go? taking current gen flagship gpu power consumption as high, then last gen budget rigs can be considered low, around the 300-400w power class. so for those u are looking at pairing a 65w cpu with a 1650/1660 super, or on team red rx5500/5600xt. but u can also go even lower with integrated graphics solutions, if u get a ryzen 4000 series apu those still have decent graphics for about 100w or lower.

 

[royfrosty]

So far i have seen people using r5 3500x with rtx3060ti. It pulls somewhere around less than 450w during intensive load.

 

[Entry Level PC]

If I'm looking for a PC that can game and do graphics.
At the same time not as power hungry, is there any particular build I should be going?

GXGX for being Conned.
When Not Gaming your PC will use less than 100W per hour.
1000W = 20-30cents
10h of usage non-gaming only 20-30cent electric Bill.

Want low power don't use your Aircon average 800W per hour.

450W PSU doesn't mean it draws 450W all the time.
It means it can draw up to 60-90% of 450W at max load.

 

[abstrax]

If I'm looking for a PC that can game and do graphics.
At the same time not as power hungry, is there any particular build I should be going?

Powerful PC always consumes higher power compared to lower end models

Same as driving a Ferrari vs Picanto.....

If u want solid gaming experience, expect to get better components which is more power hungry like i9 core, RTX 3080...and the type of motherboard u choose with alot integrated modules = wifi, bluetooth, dual LAN ports...etc

however, using ssd is now less power consumed as HDD.

 

[yusoffb01]

If I'm looking for a PC that can game and do graphics.
At the same time not as power hungry, is there any particular build I should be going?

asrock deskmini less than 150w

 

[Kunkka]

Mac mini m1

 

[testerjp]

I'm looking at 5600x.

I read it's 65w for thermal load, of course I don't think it means for electricity consumption.

For the gfc, is there a vast difference in the 3070 range? Or should I look at others?

I read and has more driver and software compatibility issues. Is it still a big concern?

If I want it to be as quiet as possible, what should I look out? My present 5 yrs old pc spins like a helicopter when I game.

If I buy a high power psu, don't mean it will use the max power right? Also will the power be more stable frome power surge if I get a more premium tier psu?

 

[watzup_ken]

So far i have seen people using r5 3500x with rtx3060ti. It pulls somewhere around less than 450w during intensive load.

Should be lower, assuming one don't have too many fans and hard drives. I've measured my rig with a R9 3900X and a GTX 1080 Ti before and it was pulling less than 450W from the wall when playing games like Resident Evil 2. I've got 4 drives then, including 1 7200 RPM WD hard disk. The GTX 1080 Ti was also overclocked, though I did not push it to the limits.

If you run benchmarks, then it will draw more, but that's an artificial load which generally cannot be replicated in normal usage.

 

[watzup_ken]

I'm looking at 5600x.

I read it's 65w for thermal load, of course I don't think it means for electricity consumption.

For the gfc, is there a vast difference in the 3070 range? Or should I look at others?

I read and has more driver and software compatibility issues. Is it still a big concern?

If I want it to be as quiet as possible, what should I look out? My present 5 yrs old pc spins like a helicopter when I game.

If I buy a high power psu, don't mean it will use the max power right? Also will the power be more stable frome power surge if I get a more premium tier psu?

Actual load power is higher on the R5 5600X than what you see on specs. But nothing too alarming. Its far worst in the Intel camp when it comes to power consumption.
I don't think there is widespread issues with the RTX 30xx series now, including the 3070. Most are launch day issues and most teething issues should be ironed out by now. For a RTX 3070, best to avoid dual fan cooling solution because the card by default draws at least 220W. While it may not sound as much as the RTX 3080, it is still a substantial amount of power and will generate a lot of heat.

PSU wise, get a good one. Ideally from brands like Corsair or Seasonic. I generaly only use these 2 brands for PSU because at the higher end, the components used are high quality, and the fan used are also quiet.

 

[Humster]

I'm looking at 5600x.

I read it's 65w for thermal load, of course I don't think it means for electricity consumption.

For the gfc, is there a vast difference in the 3070 range? Or should I look at others?

I read and has more driver and software compatibility issues. Is it still a big concern?

If I want it to be as quiet as possible, what should I look out? My present 5 yrs old pc spins like a helicopter when I game.

If I buy a high power psu, don't mean it will use the max power right? Also will the power be more stable frome power surge if I get a more premium tier psu?

Normally for If you PC makes noise is due to your GPU fans going Defcon 5.

 

[UO]

One qn 1st, are u looking to DIY or buy a premade like from dreamcore or prism or lenovo?

 

[testerjp]

asrock deskmini less than 150w

Actually this is not a bad idea.

Which Ryzen CPU with integrated graphic will I buy?
I'm normally playing Dota and my ancient GTX 745 is still okay so i guess this set up works for me.

If I transfer my existing SSD and HDD to it, my SSD is not NVME.
Buy a CPU, and 64GB ram, is that all I need to do to get it up and running?
My windows in my SSD will still work?

I'm more worried about the bios thing because I've not handled that before.
All those raid or whatever I'm not sure what it means.

 

[testerjp]

I also got one question

Ryzen 5 3400G is on VEGA11
Ryzen 4750G is on VEGA8

Which will have a better performance in gaming or graphic design?

This is also interesting
https://www.lenovo.com/sg/en/deskto...ies-tiny/ThinkCentre-M75q-Gen-2/p/11TC1MTM7G2

Is this an acceptable choice with 5 years on site warranty?
The 4750GE TDP is only 35W, hard to find 4750GE chip.
Total adaptor is only 65W.

No idea if can connect to my bose speakers though.

If I go for the Asrock deskmini x300 +wifi SGD308
4750G SGD545 with GST
2 x 16GB ram SGD166
SGD1019 not inclusive of SSD/HDD/Windows and 5 years onsite warranty.

 

[royfrosty]

Tbh. You are better off buying custom components instead. With that price, you could get a better diy desktop. Even a dedicated graphics card like gtx1650S and ryzen 3100 will be powerful enough for your needs.

 

[86technie]

I also got one question

Ryzen 5 3400G is on VEGA11
Ryzen 4750G is on VEGA8

Which will have a better performance in gaming or graphic design?

This is also interesting
https://www.lenovo.com/sg/en/deskto...ies-tiny/ThinkCentre-M75q-Gen-2/p/11TC1MTM7G2

Is this an acceptable choice with 5 years on site warranty?
The 4750GE TDP is only 35W, hard to find 4750GE chip.
Total adaptor is only 65W.

No idea if can connect to my bose speakers though.

If I go for the Asrock deskmini x300 +wifi SGD308
4750G SGD545 with GST
2 x 16GB ram SGD166
SGD1019 not inclusive of SSD/HDD/Windows and 5 years onsite warranty.

This PC is ultra low watt at 35 watt, it is more suited at work and normal use not gaming.
Gaming with a ultra low TDP APU is not ideal, it does not perform
on par with desktop counterpart.

You have two options:
- Consider a Lenovo Legion gaming laptop
- Consider a Lenovo Legion T5i gaming desktop

Take note of the parts you choose but if PSU is rated at 650 watt.
It doesn't mean it consume 650 watts.

Example if you choose Lenovo Legion T5i specs:
- Intel Core i5-10400 - 65 watt TDP
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 100 W

PSU used by Lenovo Legion T5i depends on which graphic card it use.
Base configuration and SKU not using RTX2060 should be using 400 watt 80 plug gold.

https://www.lenovo.com/sg/en/deskto...towers/Lenovo-Legion-T5-28IMB05/p/99LE9500351

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/datasheet/Legion T5 28IMB05 Datasheet_EN.pdf

Actual draw of power is not 400 watt so dependent on load.
TS you have to consider carefully, low power PC for gaming and graphic design the PC will crawl even if you have SSD.

A gaming laptop/desktop like Lenovo Legion should fit you.

 

[watzup_ken]

I also got one question

Ryzen 5 3400G is on VEGA11
Ryzen 4750G is on VEGA8

Which will have a better performance in gaming or graphic design?

This is also interesting
https://www.lenovo.com/sg/en/deskto...ies-tiny/ThinkCentre-M75q-Gen-2/p/11TC1MTM7G2

Is this an acceptable choice with 5 years on site warranty?
The 4750GE TDP is only 35W, hard to find 4750GE chip.
Total adaptor is only 65W.

No idea if can connect to my bose speakers though.

If I go for the Asrock deskmini x300 +wifi SGD308
4750G SGD545 with GST
2 x 16GB ram SGD166
SGD1019 not inclusive of SSD/HDD/Windows and 5 years onsite warranty.

Despite having less CUs on the Ryzen 7 4750, the GPU is actually faster because it is clocked significantly higher than the Ryzen 5 3400G Vega 11. In addition, the CPU performance improvement also adds on to the gaming performance and graphic design.

In my opinion, 1.5K for a system like this is not worth it. While you get 5 years warranty, the system may be too slow for gaming after 3 years. With that kind of money, I rather you buy a proper mini ITX system where you have more upgrade path in the future, i.e. add a low profile GPU. The low power chip is certainly rarer, but being a Ryzen 7 APU, I feel it needs more power to stretch its legs. If you cap it to almost half the power, you will lose significant power since the power is shared between the CPU and the iGPU.

 

[fbm051h89]

Hmm... Imho, the best performance/power would be 3500x or 3600. The. For gpu gtx1650 or similar gpu

 

[bitsoffish]

 

[NightRaven49]

Despite having less CUs on the Ryzen 7 4750, the GPU is actually faster because it is clocked significantly higher than the Ryzen 5 3400G Vega 11. In addition, the CPU performance improvement also adds on to the gaming performance and graphic design.

if u watch benchmark videos on yt, u will find that the 4750g igpu is just barely on par with the 3400g, sometimes lagging behind by a 1-2 fps. so technically the 3400g is still better for gaming, but for a more all rounder experience, the 4750g is a strong contender given its much more powerful cpu.

i agree that 1.5k for the thinkcentre is not really a good deal. as stated by techidiot and ken, the much lower tdp means that it is handicapped in some way and will most likely come at a performance deficit. i would also suggest building your own mini itx system so that u would be able to upgrade in the future.

since the only place to source 4750gs are from taobao, let me just spec out a rig:
cpu - 4750g: $410 - not sure why u have to pay gst for this if shipped by cainiao air
cooler - wraith stealth $5 taobao or carou
mobo - asrock b550m-itx $240 sls - comes with wifi
ram - teamgroup dark za 2x16gb 3600mhz $180 amazon
ssd - samsung 970 evo 500gb $90 amazon
case - any cheap case with mesh front for good airflow <$60
psu - cooler master mwe 450w $55
total for a working system with dual band wifi, fast ssd and ram is under $1100. heck, u dont even need it to be sff and could just make do with a cheaper matx/atx board.