HK 国安法 2.0

[yew lun]

 

[yew lun]

 

[neutralph]

Not as good as edmw's 没有办法.

 

[hardindex]

Lol who will trust the chinese. Its 50yrs many change.

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From the article, no one can. They change the law anytime and anyhow, sibei jialat for a government to controlled by a tyrant.

How soon can the law pass?​

With a legislature dominated by the pro-Beijing camp, the bill is widely expected to be passed with little opposition - some reports suggest this could happen as soon as early April, while the Hong Kong Democracy Council said it "can pass practically within 24 hours".

 

[amazingone]

Last time pm Lee said . Many Hk unable to buy flat or condo units.



when many hk youtubees. At least they spoke from view from hk.. said sg alr overtake hk.. then ehy these youtubess. why don't ask gov to lower house price and make hk style hdb for hkie?

hksar govt earn money by selling land to private developer

 

[hardindex]

don't really understand the concern. We also have our own internal security act, why they cannot have their own

GG to companies with business in HK, imagine if CCP find a country hostile and decide to ban all its business and to leave in 24hrs.

 

[mooseolly]

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From the article, no one can. They change the law anytime and anyhow, sibei jialat for a government to controlled by a tyrant.

How soon can the law pass?​

With a legislature dominated by the pro-Beijing camp, the bill is widely expected to be passed with little opposition - some reports suggest this could happen as soon as early April, while the Hong Kong Democracy Council said it "can pass practically within 24 hours".

Before the 2019 extradition bill, in 2003 CCP tried to pass an anti-subversion Hong Kong Basic Law Article 23 resulting in a protest.

 

[PaboJames]

GG to companies with business in HK, imagine if CCP find a country hostile and decide to ban all its business and to leave in 24hrs.

Usa doing this now for their security rite?

Locally in the past we did lock people up almost their whole life for internal security

All countries have their own internal security law mah...

 

[hardindex]

Before the 2019 extradition bill, in 2003 CCP tried to pass an anti-subversion Hong Kong Basic Law Article 23 resulting in a protest.

they imprison the key persons in the protests, and they started protests without leaders which resulted in 国安法 1.0, the smart one run at the very earliest time, the slow one get locked up.

 

[hawkwind]

Tell me which western country doesn't have similar policies protecting themselves.

 

[mooseolly]

they imprison the key persons in the protests, and they started protests without leaders which resulted in 国安法 1.0, the smart one run at the very earliest time, the slow one get locked up.

This is self pwn let Taiwanese open eye big big look at the one country 2 systems outcome.

China don't have to convince anyone else, the most important is to convince the Taiwanese, which they failed.

 

[hardindex]

Usa doing this now for their security rite?

Locally in the past we did lock people up almost their whole life for internal security

All countries have their own internal security law mah...

In US even spies get a trial. China one anyhow onecan be locked up for years and no law can help them

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...pionage-law-on-business-wef-1st-july.6900518/

 

[mooseolly]

In US even spies get a trial. China one anyhow onecan be locked up for years and no law can help them

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...pionage-law-on-business-wef-1st-july.6900518/

The conviction rate in 2022 was 99.95 percent.

I think lawyers a bit redundant job there. Maybe just need prosecutors can already.

 

[yew lun]

 

[PaboJames]

In US even spies get a trial. China one anyhow onecan be locked up for years and no law can help them

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...pionage-law-on-business-wef-1st-july.6900518/

Don't need look at others .. look at our own country can already

Is their country their law ma...you feel uncomfortable, don't go loh... Why you want to interfere with other country's business?

 

[hardindex]

Don't need look at others .. look at our own country can already

Is their country their law ma...you feel uncomfortable, don't go loh... Why you want to interfere with other country's business?

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-business-wef-1st-july.6900518/post-149199159

Until it happens to you or your family visiting their country, insulting china or taking picture of their parade

 

[2_sillies_trap]

Saw on today news....
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-68508694

What is in the new bill?​

The 2024 version of Article 23 allows for closed-door trials and gives the police rights to detain suspects for up to two weeks without charge.
The city's leader will also be given authority to ban organisations and companies from operating in Hong Kong, should they be found "working for foreign forces".
The draft bill expands on the Beijing-imposed national security law, which already criminalises secession, subversion, terrorism and collusion with foreign forces. Here are some of the new offences it covers.

• Theft of state secrets and espionage: The bill has a broad definition of "state secrets". It includes "major policy decisions", "economic or social development" and Hong Kong's "external affairs", among other things. The wording in this section of the bill is almost identical to China's state secrets law, which Beijing is looking to broaden.
• Sabotage endangering national security: This is a new offence that targets people who endanger national security either intentionally or by "being reckless". It also wants to criminalise computer-related acts that harm national security. Doxxing - the malicious act of publishing people's personal information online - of police officers was cited in the consultation paper as a possible example of such an offence.
• External interference: This new offence will deal with acts of collaborating with "external forces" to influence or interfere with national and local authorities. Examples include receiving financial support or direction from these "external forces", which could include foreign governments, political organisations or individuals.
• Insurrection: This will deal with acts such as assisting an armed force - or the organisation to which the force belongs - in an armed conflict against China. Authorities have repeatedly cited unrest due to the months-long pro-democracy protests in 2019 as grounds for legislating this new offence.
• Treason: In addition to treason, which includes offences such as levying war against China, the new bill seeks to criminalise unauthorised military drilling and "misprision of treason", committed by someone who has knowledge of treason but does not report it.

Those found guilty of treason, insurrection, inciting a member of the Chinese army to mutiny, or colluding with an external force to damage or weaken public infrastructure could be sentenced to life imprisonment.
Once passed, Article 23 will be enshrined in a document called the Basic Law, Hong Kong's mini constitution which sets out the structure of governance for the territory.




Think most are smokescreen, the exception one is banning companies and business. Really RIP HK. Uninvestable like China

all in hangseng naos!! means free flow of RMB into HK akan datangs.

 

[Ronin881]

50 years no change …

They did not read the fine print.

"...provided all the HK people are loyal and patriotic to the Mainland..."

If not, all bets are off.

 

[Ronin881]

Lol who will trust the chinese. Its 50yrs many change.

Many will still "trust" the Chinese in order to make money.

 

[mooseolly]

They did not read the fine print.

"...provided all the HK people are loyal and patriotic to the Mainland..."

If not, all bets are off.

Maybe the words too small cannot see like food discount vouchers with a lot of disclaimers.