How do you study Computer architecture?

[Trader11]

It seems like there are so many different architectures....Which ones should we start from?

 

[davidktw]

It seems like there are so many different architectures....Which ones should we start from?

If it interests you, this is what I read in my uni days
https://archive.org/details/computerarchitec0003henn
I was taught the MIPS architecture, a RISC architecture that introduces me to the basics of machine opcodes, various data representations like signed magnitude, 1s and 2s complements, fixed and floating point representation. I was also introduced to MIPS assembly language, various topics of how cache works; their associativity, coherence, registers renaming, operations pipelining, branch prediction, execution reordering, parallelism in execution and more. Of course, all these are textbooks fundamentals that may or may not exactly applies in today’s modern hardware architecture, even for x86, arm or risc-v. But they form the general understanding of how machines works and the many design principles that form across them. It will give you a brief understanding of computers and helps chain knowledge together and also helps you to understand future designs since they are mostly derivatives from the fundamental concepts.

There is no which one to start from. Computer architecture is a very broad topic, you just need to start somewhere. This book and other editions will give you a quantitative understanding to computer architecture.

Here is my copy at home right now

Before the computer architecture course, there is a Computer System course and it uses this book

And these are the type of things I will read during my freshman

Back in my youth in before I even have formal CS training in JC, this is one book I have tried to read

Now that I find them back, the topics are still pretty interesting.
If you are keen in learning computer architecture, you don't need the latest and the most fanciful to start with.
Even the good old x86 DOS days can get you started as long as you are keen to learn. Back in those days, developers
are dealing with real mode programming that can touch all aspect of the hardware. The protected mode now is very
convoluted. If you are keen, feel free to write some stuffs that run in DosBox (https://www.dosbox.com)
https://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10322

Have fun

 

[occifer]

If it interests you, this is what I read in my uni days
https://archive.org/details/computerarchitec0003henn
I was taught the MIPS architecture, a RISC architecture that introduces me to the basics of machine opcodes, various data representations like signed magnitude, 1s and 2s complements, fixed and floating point representation. I was also introduced to MIPS assembly language, various topics of how cache works; their associativity, coherence, registers renaming, ops pipelining, parallelism in execution and more. Of course, all these are textbooks fundamentals that may or may not exactly applies in today’s modern hardware architecture, even for x86, arm or risc-v. But they form the general understanding of how machines works and the many design principles that form across them. It will give you a brief understanding of computers and helps chain knowledge together and also helps you to understand future designs since they are mostly derivatives from the fundamental concepts.

There is no which one to start from. Computer architecture is a very broad topic, you just need to start somewhere. This book and other editions will give you a qualitative understanding to computer architecture.

Have fun

Something like this can be self taught online meh?
Need to enrol in a degree right? ....practically speaking.

 

[davidktw]

Something like this can be self taught online meh?
Need to enrol in a degree right? ....practically speaking.

If you are a youth wanting to know Computer Science, I will of course recommend that you get formal education in it. While some may feel a diploma works, I personally will recommend a more rigour tuition with a good university Computer Science course. That being said, I can't rule out the possibility of someone capable enough to self study this topic with enough passion, diligence and persistence.

 

[sTiCkY]

no future in such studies here....

 

[davidktw]

no future in such studies here....

In your thoughts, that would be quite certain.

 

[Ye_Rongtian]

I remember I got free visual basic book donated by a kind forumer here in the early 2000s....

 

[invisible.hippo]

In your thoughts, that would be quite certain.

Hi David,

If I want to learn Azure cloud, what are the things I am required to know?

 

[davidktw]

Hi David,

If I want to learn Azure cloud, what are the things I am required to know?

I am not a certified Azure cloud architect, so I won’t be able to give you the best answer.

Perhaps this helps
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-prerequisites-to-learn-Microsoft-Azure
In any case, those also applies mostly to AWS. Since cloud providers are simply big virtual hosting companies with a lot of integrated services. Any knowledge on software development and deployment, infrastructure management and so forth will helps you to embrace cloud computing.

 

[razorlala]

Something like this can be self taught online meh?
Need to enrol in a degree right? ....practically speaking.

A degree is just a pc of paper to get 4k starting salary

 

[occifer]

If you are a youth wanting to know Computer Science, I will of course recommend that you get formal education in it. While some may feel a diploma works, I personally will recommend a more rigour tuition with a good university Computer Science course. That being said, I can't rule out the possibility of someone capable enough to self study this topic with enough passion, diligence and persistence.

I see. Well most of us mid 30s uncles here.
So unlikely to work out lol

 

[Trader11]

The problem I find with this topic is there are different types of architecture and their instructions are different. So it is kind of tedious to know all the architectures. But a hacker need to know them to launch buffer overflow attacks

 

[Loser]

Something like this can be self taught online meh?
Need to enrol in a degree right? ....practically speaking.

Can self learn anything if your reiatsu levels are high enough

 

[occifer]

Can self learn anything if your reiatsu levels are high enough

As expected of our edmw champion

 

[Loser]

As expected of our edmw champion

No not me I cannot

 

[occifer]

If it interests you, this is what I read in my uni days
https://archive.org/details/computerarchitec0003henn
I was taught the MIPS architecture, a RISC architecture that introduces me to the basics of machine opcodes, various data representations like signed magnitude, 1s and 2s complements, fixed and floating point representation. I was also introduced to MIPS assembly language, various topics of how cache works; their associativity, coherence, registers renaming, operations pipelining, branch prediction, execution reordering, parallelism in execution and more. Of course, all these are textbooks fundamentals that may or may not exactly applies in today’s modern hardware architecture, even for x86, arm or risc-v. But they form the general understanding of how machines works and the many design principles that form across them. It will give you a brief understanding of computers and helps chain knowledge together and also helps you to understand future designs since they are mostly derivatives from the fundamental concepts.

There is no which one to start from. Computer architecture is a very broad topic, you just need to start somewhere. This book and other editions will give you a quantitative understanding to computer architecture.

Here is my copy at home right now

Before the computer architecture course, there is a Computer System course and it uses this book

And these are the type of things I will read during my freshman

Back in my youth in before I even have formal CS training in JC, this is one book I have tried to read

Now that I find them back, the topics are still pretty interesting.
If you are keen in learning computer architecture, you don't need the latest and the most fanciful to start with.
Even the good old x86 DOS days can get you started as long as you are keen to learn. Back in those days, developers
are dealing with real mode programming that can touch all aspect of the hardware. The protected mode now is very
convoluted. If you are keen, feel free to write some stuffs that run in DosBox (https://www.dosbox.com)
https://www.dosgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10322

Have fun

Roughly how many hours will a layman take to understand the basics and intermediate level?

 

[slashershot]

in another trader11 computer thread

 

[CI]

Long long time ago, I was taught using the 5-stage RISC pipeline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_RISC_pipeline
IIRC, the DLX architecture being starting point to learn the intricacies. Maybe can have a look at it.

 

[Tony.Manero]

Just learn arm can already rah. Learn liao arm chio at the rest.

 

[slashershot]

Roughly how many hours will a layman take to understand the basics and intermediate level?

years
instead of structure this way more like. learn for what?

what is os architecture anyway? ps2 also got OS, u wan to learn?
android also got OS
modern architecture is a trillion dollar effort. if u can understand 1% of it, u already making bank liao

its veri hard to pick up yourself cause u dont know what u dont know.