[HOW] Starting Own E- Commerce website

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Currently no prior experience in computer science. Trying to pick up the programming languages required to start a professional ecommerce website but not sure what to learn. Any pros can give advice?

Still in early 20s, got time and energy to learn many many languages. :s22:
 

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Currently no prior experience in computer science. Trying to pick up the programming languages required to start a professional ecommerce website but not sure what to learn. Any pros can give advice?

Still in early 20s, got time and energy to learn many many languages. :s22:

Just learn a bit of PHP, buy a WordPress template, done.
 

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Currently no prior experience in computer science. Trying to pick up the programming languages required to start a professional ecommerce website but not sure what to learn. Any pros can give advice?

Still in early 20s, got time and energy to learn many many languages. :s22:

just hire someone or outsource to 3rd party websites to do. no point you do urself. you should be spending ur effort on the business aspects, not the technical ones
 

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feel like doing myself, can cut cost :)

You can certainly pick up programming, but don't expect it to be good at first not fast if you have little computing background. The essence in computing is not the programming language.

Wordpress is simplier but not simple to someone with no prior knowledge of frameworks. If you are keen to learn programming, start of with a book first. Jumping right into any programming especially a product like Wordpress will get u confused easily. There are quite a few concepts and technologies used in simple framework like Wordpress alone and they are not related to programming languages.
 

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You can certainly pick up programming, but don't expect it to be good at first not fast if you have little computing background. The essence in computing is not the programming language.

Wordpress is simplier but not simple to someone with no prior knowledge of frameworks. If you are keen to learn programming, start of with a book first. Jumping right into any programming especially a product like Wordpress will get u confused easily. There are quite a few concepts and technologies used in simple framework like Wordpress alone and they are not related to programming languages.
Thanks! Got myself a dummy guide for java... Probably I can start w that...?

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Thanks! Got myself a dummy guide for java... Probably I can start w that...?

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If you are going to start big time on learning computer science, yes I will suggest you start with Java. If your objective is ecommerce, java ecommerce are normally quite heavy weight and you will have a long pick up time. Not an issue if you want proper understanding of computer science instead of just trying to have an ecommerce site.
 

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If you are going to start big time on learning computer science, yes I will suggest you start with Java. If your objective is ecommerce, java ecommerce are normally quite heavy weight and you will have a long pick up time. Not an issue if you want proper understanding of computer science instead of just trying to have an ecommerce site.

I actually started out a lot like this guy - dabbled with C++ and Javascript early on (back in web 2.0), gave it up, then wanted to do a business but didn't want to/couldn't afford to pay $15k for a bespoke e-commerce website. So I taught myself basic PHP and started using WordPress. Simple enough. Then I realised WordPress is too restrictive. So I learned more PHP and picked up some advanced OO knowledge, and moved to enterprise level framework (S2).

After that I became more interested in JS because now you can use it in the backend too, so I started to learn that. Now I'm getting into Java.

I feel like if you want to just hit the ground running, PHP is a better option than Java, coz it's really dummy-proof. BUT, like davidktw has said, Java is THE language to learn if you want to get to the absolute highest levels of software development, whether it be web or native. It can be VERY frustrating though, especially if you're not used to being very careful about data types.

So I think if you want to learn just enough programming to get yourself a functional e-commerce site, then PHP/WordPress will do just fine. If you want to become a professional full-stack developer, you'd best learn Java, grind through the hard bits and you'll be better for it. But I do get the sense that you're more interested in business than technology per se, so maybe PHP is the better option for you.
 

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I actually started out a lot like this guy - dabbled with C++ and Javascript early on (back in web 2.0), gave it up, then wanted to do a business but didn't want to/couldn't afford to pay $15k for a bespoke e-commerce website. So I taught myself basic PHP and started using WordPress. Simple enough. Then I realised WordPress is too restrictive. So I learned more PHP and picked up some advanced OO knowledge, and moved to enterprise level framework (S2).

After that I became more interested in JS because now you can use it in the backend too, so I started to learn that. Now I'm getting into Java.

I feel like if you want to just hit the ground running, PHP is a better option than Java, coz it's really dummy-proof. BUT, like davidktw has said, Java is THE language to learn if you want to get to the absolute highest levels of software development, whether it be web or native. It can be VERY frustrating though, especially if you're not used to being very careful about data types.

So I think if you want to learn just enough programming to get yourself a functional e-commerce site, then PHP/WordPress will do just fine. If you want to become a professional full-stack developer, you'd best learn Java, grind through the hard bits and you'll be better for it. But I do get the sense that you're more interested in business than technology per se, so maybe PHP is the better option for you.

Actually, you can use GWT to convert your Java code into Javascript for web now.

I guess you can, somewhat, hit the ground running with Java now.
 

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If you are going to start big time on learning computer science, yes I will suggest you start with Java. If your objective is ecommerce, java ecommerce are normally quite heavy weight and you will have a long pick up time. Not an issue if you want proper understanding of computer science instead of just trying to have an ecommerce site.
Yeah thanks! Yup, I am trying to learn programming not just for the sake of starting up a business.
Fyi I am going NTU computer science next year so I'm also prepping myself for that haha ;)

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I actually started out a lot like this guy - dabbled with C++ and Javascript early on (back in web 2.0), gave it up, then wanted to do a business but didn't want to/couldn't afford to pay $15k for a bespoke e-commerce website. So I taught myself basic PHP and started using WordPress. Simple enough. Then I realised WordPress is too restrictive. So I learned more PHP and picked up some advanced OO knowledge, and moved to enterprise level framework (S2).

After that I became more interested in JS because now you can use it in the backend too, so I started to learn that. Now I'm getting into Java.

I feel like if you want to just hit the ground running, PHP is a better option than Java, coz it's really dummy-proof. BUT, like davidktw has said, Java is THE language to learn if you want to get to the absolute highest levels of software development, whether it be web or native. It can be VERY frustrating though, especially if you're not used to being very careful about data types.

So I think if you want to learn just enough programming to get yourself a functional e-commerce site, then PHP/WordPress will do just fine. If you want to become a professional full-stack developer, you'd best learn Java, grind through the hard bits and you'll be better for it. But I do get the sense that you're more interested in business than technology per se, so maybe PHP is the better option for you.
Yup you are right, I am trying to become a full stack programmer in the future. Studying computer science next time in NTU, was thinking since I am free now might as well learn some prog languages now. If possible start a small business online haha :)

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Yeah thanks! Yup, I am trying to learn programming not just for the sake of starting up a business.
Fyi I am going NTU computer science next year so I'm also prepping myself for that haha ;)

Sent from Man with big hopes and big dreams... HUAT AH! using GAGT

Good to know. In that case, wish you all the best and work hard on it :)
 

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Yeah thanks! Yup, I am trying to learn programming not just for the sake of starting up a business.
Fyi I am going NTU computer science next year so I'm also prepping myself for that haha ;)

Sent from Man with big hopes and big dreams... HUAT AH! using GAGT

Change course to NUS if you can........
 

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Yup you are right, I am trying to become a full stack programmer in the future. Studying computer science next time in NTU, was thinking since I am free now might as well learn some prog languages now. If possible start a small business online haha :)

Sent from Man with big hopes and big dreams... HUAT AH! using GAGT

Cool man. I might take undergrad CS at NTU next year too - part time though. Still thinking about it.
 

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And your signature...

Just some life advice, if I may - NEVER lose those hopes and dreams. EVER.
 

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And your signature...

Just some life advice, if I may - NEVER lose those hopes and dreams. EVER.
Thanks for the advice! I'll pursue my dreams while I can ;)

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??? dont understand.

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