How to patch voice to Data

[kon_sk]

By the way, distribution box is outside our home? i.e. with the power / water meters?

Inside your home, pretty big, about the size of 2-gang power switch, but there's nothing outside, just a plain white box. Should be somewhere middle of your house or at your service yard (depending if HDB or condo)

I believe house built or wiring replaced in the last 5 years or so by default should have cat5e, if you have cat5e, you can use all 4 pair as gigabit ethernet, don't waste it for phone line coz fast ethernet (100mbps) only need 2 pair, gigabit need 4-pair (all 8 wires). Just wired up the whole house for data port, then the distribution box end put the patch panel i said above. If later you choose to use traditional phone line, still can dedicate any of the 'converted' data port for phone line use without further work, just plug & play.. RJ11 connector and plug into RJ45 data port no issue!

 

[kon_sk]

Googled and saw a RJ11 to RJ45 converter -- Would this kind of converter do the job? Anyone tried before?

Telephone RJ11 Male to 8 Pin RJ45 Male Plug Cable 1 7M | eBay

Most likely useless, because your phone port only wired with 2 wire (1 pair) for phone use, you need to change what's behind the phone port (min 2 pair, if possible do 4-pair), if it's cat5e, then go for gigabit, don't settle for fast ethernet

 

[zhchiam]

Inside your home, pretty big, about the size of 2-gang power switch, but there's nothing outside, just a plain white box. Should be somewhere middle of your house or at your service yard (depending if HDB or condo)

I believe house built or wiring replaced in the last 5 years or so by default should have cat5e, if you have cat5e, you can use all 4 pair as gigabit ethernet, don't waste it for phone line coz fast ethernet (100mbps) only need 2 pair, gigabit need 4-pair (all 8 wires). Just wired up the whole house for data port, then the distribution box end put the patch panel i said above. If later you choose to use traditional phone line, still can dedicate any of the 'converted' data port for phone line use without further work, just plug & play.. RJ11 connector and plug into RJ45 data port no issue!

My place 11 year old EC, not sure if its cat5e. Will need to check. I will find out more about the existing cabling first (whether suitable to proceed), and seek advice here later on. In any case will need to swap to M1 digital line first before I d/c my current phone wires from distribution box...

Thanks for the advice !

 

[zhchiam]

Inside your home, pretty big, about the size of 2-gang power switch, but there's nothing outside, just a plain white box. Should be somewhere middle of your house or at your service yard (depending if HDB or condo)

I believe house built or wiring replaced in the last 5 years or so by default should have cat5e, if you have cat5e, you can use all 4 pair as gigabit ethernet, don't waste it for phone line coz fast ethernet (100mbps) only need 2 pair, gigabit need 4-pair (all 8 wires). Just wired up the whole house for data port, then the distribution box end put the patch panel i said above. If later you choose to use traditional phone line, still can dedicate any of the 'converted' data port for phone line use without further work, just plug & play.. RJ11 connector and plug into RJ45 data port no issue!

Was wondering where to place the patch panel mentioned in earlier post, googled it also still quite blur. Now I realise it will replace the 'distribution point'. btw, does it need power (electrical) socket?

 

[kon_sk]

My place 11 year old EC, not sure if its cat5e. Will need to check. I will find out more about the existing cabling first (whether suitable to proceed), and seek advice here later on. In any case will need to swap to M1 digital line first before I d/c my current phone wires from distribution box...

Thanks for the advice !

Last advice, before you subscribe, better find the distribution box first, and check what kind of cable you have, if it's indeed Cat5 (3 pair), then make sure you don't waste money to subscribe for anything faster than 100Mbps plan, coz your internal home network cannot support it Unless of course your modem/router placement is already connecting to all your PC.

If you do have cat5e, then you can choose any plan since your house can run at Gigabit oredi...

 

[kon_sk]

Was wondering where to place the patch panel mentioned in earlier post, googled it also still quite blur. Now I realise it will replace the 'distribution point'. btw, does it need power (electrical) socket?

The distribution point as you see in the first post in this thread is just a housing where all the cable is hiding. Since you are using for data, you cannot hide the cable in the box anymore, they have to come out to see sunlight i.e. get connected to the switch to pass data traffic like the pictures shown above.

The patch panel (don't need power, it's passive just connecting the cables) is just an intermediary between the cable and the switch (need power supply to run)...

Picture this:

Living room phone wall port > Distribution point (same cable the other end) > patch it patch panel > normal lan cable > switch

Of course patch panel is optional, it just make your life easier to connect stuff, you can just crimp the cable as it is and go straight to the switch like the picture above

Living room phone wall port > Distribution point (same cable the other end) > switch (reuse TS image)

 

[zhchiam]

Hi

Got a picture of the distribution box in my home, how come it seems like none of the wires are connected to anything?... Is this the box I should be connecting the switch / patch panel to?

 

[zhchiam]

Also, if I am planning to wire up only one of the bedrooms (the others can use wireless), is the switch necessary? Can I just locate the correct phone wiring (trial and error method) and connect to router directly? The configuration is something like this:

TP in Living Room --> Router --> converted Rj45 socket -->

--> to distribution box (connect wire from living room to Masterbed room)

--> converted Rj45 socket in MBR --> 2nd Router configured as access point --> connect to computer


Would this work? Appreciate your advice.
Thanks !!

 

[kon_sk]

Also, if I am planning to wire up only one of the bedrooms (the others can use wireless), is the switch necessary? Can I just locate the correct phone wiring (trial and error method) and connect to router directly? The configuration is something like this:

TP in Living Room --> Router --> converted Rj45 socket -->

--> to distribution box (connect wire from living room to Masterbed room)

--> converted Rj45 socket in MBR --> 2nd Router configured as access point --> connect to computer


Would this work? Appreciate your advice.
Thanks !!

You will have to convert the phone socket in your living room and masterbedroom to plug in the LAN cable.

Then your distribution box, find that 2 that goes to living room & MBR, then connect with this:

RJ45 Coupler - Free Shipping - DealExtreme

You can then hide back everything inside the distribution box (if can fit)... can skip the switch

I just ordered the coupler as well, still waiting for it to arrive so can test

P/S: there might be other solution by the pro, remember I'm just a noob still trial & error a lot of stuff

 

[zhchiam]

Hi

Got a picture of the distribution box in my home, how come it seems like none of the wires are connected to anything?... Is this the box I should be connecting the switch / patch panel to?

By the way, the wires in the distribution box do not seem to be attached/connected to anywhere, just a mess of cables on their own. The blue and white wires on the white plastic connectors are on their own.

Is this correct? How does this link to the phone sockets when the wires aren't connected to any point?

 

[kon_sk]

By the way, the wires in the distribution box do not seem to be attached/connected to anywhere, just a mess of cables on their own. The blue and white wires on the white plastic connectors are on their own.

Is this correct? How does this link to the phone sockets when the wires aren't connected to any point?

I can only guess singtel installer did that to make your ADSL work? Mine were fully connected but we never used a traditional phone line before (obviously never used ADSL in my life before as well). You can test for yourself by plugging your phone to another wall outlet to see if it works

If they are disconnected, then they won't work... as to why Singtel wanna do that... errr... I dunno... hahahaha

 

[zhchiam]

I can only guess singtel installer did that to make your ADSL work? Mine were fully connected but we never used a traditional phone line before (obviously never used ADSL in my life before as well). You can test for yourself by plugging your phone to another wall outlet to see if it works

If they are disconnected, then they won't work... as to why Singtel wanna do that... errr... I dunno... hahahaha

Not sure whether the Singtel person patched the wires directly to the box outside my home instead? If so, can I just d/c from outside (assuming there is a simiar box outside)? Any pros can advise? Thanks.

 

[Slackersg]

Need some help to identify if the cabling in my house is possible for a convention project.

If it is possible, may i know if my cable is 3p? Been hearing people here mentioning about 3p 4p cable but clueless about it.

Hope to hear some good news... ^^

And pardon me for the dirty looking faceplate... it's over 10 years residence... so... forgive me...

 

[kon_sk]

If it is possible, may i know if my cable is 3p? Been hearing people here mentioning about 3p 4p cable but clueless about it.

Hope to hear some good news... ^^

And pardon me for the dirty looking faceplate... it's over 10 years residence... so... forgive me...

Normally only 2 wire are used, the rest are wrapped up nicely around the cable itself, uncoil one up and count how many wire is there in a cable, if you have 4 (2pair).. you can use for fast ethernet (100mbps) already...

If you have 6 (3 pair), then 4 can be use for fast ethernet, the remaining 2 don't touch it use for your phone. Then get the faceplate that have 1 side LAN, beside is phone port, or both LAN port

 

[Slackersg]

Normally only 2 wire are used, the rest are wrapped up nicely around the cable itself, uncoil one up and count how many wire is there in a cable, if you have 4 (2pair).. you can use for fast ethernet (100mbps) already...

If you have 6 (3 pair), then 4 can be use for fast ethernet, the remaining 2 don't touch it use for your phone. Then get the faceplate that have 1 side LAN, beside is phone port, or both LAN port

Thanks for the pointer.
Currently busy with work but if everything goes well, i probably take this little project up and make it a distress hobby. ^^

 

[whizzard]

This is a very useful and informative thread.

I might need to do something like this for my house too.

Thanks to all the contributors of this thread.