How to tell between......?

[Nuclear Boy]

Read many chart and many way of theology. All points to similar pattern.

Or maybe... that's what you are looking for in the charts.

If you seek it, you'll definitely find it. Just that it is not what you actually need.

 

[IAmChiobu12M]

Or maybe... that's what you are looking for in the charts.

If you seek it, you'll definitely find it. Just that it is not what you actually need.

Nope keep looking for different answers, keep getting the same.

 

[Nuclear Boy]

Nope keep looking for different answers, keep getting the same.

Stop looking, and make your own answer. Break the cycle.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Don't leave it to chance, and don't take its words for it.

 

[Spike]

In the first place got such thg as natal chart being very bad until hard to live?

And also even if have how would you know if the type of natal chart you read is accurate?

And even if it is highly accurate how you know you cannot bypass it in some ways?

Stop looking, and make your own answer. Break the cycle.

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Don't leave it to chance, and don't take its words for it.

As long as durian doesn't drop, the questioning doesn't end.

As long as I don't huat, something is wrong with this world.

That's obsession.

 

[GoodEnergy]

So if one's natal chart is born to have a bad life and the easier way is forget about living since luck will never be at this person side even so is not enough to propel as far what this person want.

Should just quit life right? Staying alive and keep trying thinking that she can eventually override the chart and control her destiny is just foolish thinking and obsession correct? Any idea of hope and faith that eventually life will work is also obsession right?

Since she been living nothing but uphill battle and have so many near death encounters, is confirmation signs from sky that, fkx you bitxch just end live, you're ggwp no game already don't need play already. Correct?

Same thing someone else do put in 10% effort also can coast, she put in 110% of effort still not enough. Despite trying to navigate around, and seek profound wisdom still lose to others. Really no point already right?

Haven’t you heard of 大难不死批有后福？Your many near death encounters is confirmation signs that you are meant to live. Live life fully and and never give up on yourself.

All these natal charts are up to interpretation. Some people are late bloomers. Some need to experience hardships first before they can be successful.

 

[Song Bro]

Have, if not why will have so many people born in terrible place or have a very bad life.


Read many chart and many way of theology. All points to similar pattern.


Recently, I tried to experiment something knowing the outcome may not be ideal and it will take a toll on me, and the result is as expected despite I tried to give my all to make it work. And this is only 1 example.

My natal chart is bad. Cos no water (wealth). Does it mean I give up? No. It actually means opportunity for growth. What heavens dun give u is what they want to test you in life. I can take the easy way out by utilising my strengths aka I have 4 earths (stability). Just 做一天和尚，敲一天钟. I also can mix it around. Say. > Once have an impulse chiong to do it. In the past I will be obsessed with 1 idea and do it till it break or I break. But not any more. I will now stress test it to 110% only. Then I, not say give up, "put one side, noting the strengths and flaws". Some time later when I dulan with boss or what take out the strategy try, still valid, good. Not, search a new one start again. I.e I had a good 60% forex strat. Do I start straight away? No. Cos it requires labour intensive monitoring. So I put one side when I deemed it workable. Now recently my answer has arrived - AI. Had I grew obsessive and keep trying to program the algro, i prolly would have killed myself. Moral of the story, try to the fullest for a short period, to me is like 6 mths. Put one side as an option. Then just relax, knowing have alternative. When time comes just update accordingly.

 

[Ethan_]

Think often alot of things is no way to tell one. Not that many have much of a choice. When become successful then many will praise its the right thing to do. But when failed, many will jjww silly and its wrong. With business this is very common.

So, no need care what other think. Want to do just do. If so easily influence by other people jjww, then think one is mentally weak. Not cut out for it.

 

[buttbERry]

end of the day which one more got tangible benefits?

 

[Wyattbird]

I feel that the ability to handle ones life cards in the best way available is grit.

The unfortunate thing is that no one will know how life turns out, until one is dead. That's why there's this saying "call no man happy until he is dead" by Herodotus. I believe this line encapsulates all.

Having said that, we can cruise life along blaming how bad a card we've been dealt with, or try our best to improve. God knows how hard it is to do that, and I myself am going through that.

All I can say is, without darkness, there can be no light. Without sadness, there can be no happiness. Only by experiencing all, can one say that they were truly alive, when dead.

 

[testerjp]

Depends on outcome.

If outcome is expected to be not valuable. Resilience will not stick.

 

[IAmChiobu12M]

Haven’t you heard of 大难不死批有后福？Your many near death encounters is confirmation signs that you are meant to live. Live life fully and and never give up on yourself.

All these natal charts are up to interpretation. Some people are late bloomers. Some need to experience hardships first before they can be successful.

I 大难不死 many times but no see 后福

I know of people who easy mode since birth and dk what's hardship.

I know of people who are scammer but no get caught.

I know of people who sell others out but live life still shiok.

I know of people who work very hard and get rewarded too, which is fair.

I know of people who put their happiness/peace at the expenses of others but they sleep well.

I know of people who break many hearts, still happily ever after.

When I say I know, I really know them real life and I've seen the chart of many people too.

So ya I don't believe there is 后福, I believe is in the chart. So long you have enough good merit points aka karam or a good chart no matter how baxtard, your life will still coast.

 

[nonameless]

Like smart Alec
Do wrong - gei kiang
Do correct - initiative

 

[Orphan]

Extreme resilience vs Obsession?

Taking accountability and fix the damage you caused which requires sacrifice vs self preservation at all cost even it means being selfish so that you survive and continue the game?

Taking accountability and making amends is also a means of self preservation - specifically recognizing a mistake was made and saving oneself from getting into a worse situation. I hold people who admit their mistakes and fixing their mistakes in high regard.

Compared to someone who made a mistake and denies responsibility. In general, people know a mistake was made and have good guesses who caused it. Seeing the person deny responsibility results in people losing trust in this person.

Ultimately, would you want to work with a team mate who owns up to his/her mistake and fixes it, or a team mate who lies and denies responsibility?

When is considered grit, when is considered stubborn like a rock?

I'll give a rock climbing example where a climber is halfway up and discovers there are no more handholds to allow him to climb up further.

Grit is when the climber back tracks and find another way up. If that new route is also a dead end, the climber back tracks further to find another alternate route. The climber does this repeatly until he reaches the top.

Stubborness is the climber not willing to consider alternative routes and insists on trying the same dead end route again and again, hoping that the cliff will magically change and provide a new hand hold the next time.

When is considered cutting loss quickly, when is considered giving up too soon?

Same rock climbing example - cutting loss is when the climber have already tried several of the most feasible routes and cannot proceed. By trying several alternatives, he has a better understanding that he does not have the skill to ascend further, then decides to climb down.

Giving up too soon is when said climber gives up without even trying alternatives.

When is considered being strategic, when is considered scheming?

When comapred this way, these words themselves already have different connotations tied to them.

Strategizing mainly is to position oneself better for self benefit. Might or might not be done at the expense of others, but that's not the goal.

Scheming generally means there is detrimental impact to others. Might not even benefit oneself.

It feels like they are just the same trait? But if luck is on your side and you get what you want, then people frame it as the good trait. If not is just blamed as the bad?

To me, there are definitely differences, but I can understand why some people would look at it this way.

Also, while we are in a realistic world where most people just celebrate the winners, we should be careful when attributing something to good or bad luck. Because this dismisses the work and effort of those who succeeded and those who failed.

And if you know the game is rigged and no matter how you play, you will not win, will you still play?

Depends on what other benefits I can get out of the experience.

I know I won't win the gold medal in martial arts tournaments, I also know I won't be the one climbing fastest. Doesn't stop me from participating since I learn and improve myself each time.

Watching from the sidelines is very different from being a direct participant in the game.

You are not interested to merely be a participant, you want to win and the only satisfied outcome to you is, win.

If you know going further, stats show you will be burn, will you continue? But if you don't, you can't prove the stats is right. And if you don't, you can't tell if there is a miracle against all odds.

Change the winning conditions.

For example, I know there are many fighters much better and more experienced than me in a tournament. I know full well that I am not going to win any medals.

For me, gaining experience is a win, even if I do not "win" any medals.

I am not there to prove anyone's stats are correct/wrong. I am there for myself.

 

[IAmChiobu12M]

Taking accountability and making amends is also a means of self preservation - specifically recognizing a mistake was made and saving oneself from getting into a worse situation. I hold people who admit their mistakes and fixing their mistakes in high regard.

Compared to someone who made a mistake and denies responsibility. In general, people know a mistake was made and have good guesses who caused it. Seeing the person deny responsibility results in people losing trust in this person.

Ultimately, would you want to work with a team mate who owns up to his/her mistake and fixes it, or a team mate who lies and denies responsibility?

Thank you for taking effort to reply properly.

When comes to tangible stuff, example, work. Is easy to see who's wrong and who should pay for it or make it up or there will be tangible consequences for the person anyway. ie, losing the job etc. So in a way justice is served.

But what if comes to things that are more vague but still impactful?

Like example rs? If one is the person that did the destruction, yet the person left harm to others and the other party already get hurt. While the person who brought harm just pretend to be polish and noble and play it cool say I'm sorry and leave the other to suffer? Is that fair?

Or I take an extreme example, rape/abuse cases, victim can pivot and move on. But why is the healing work their responsibilities when it's the MF who causes these? And many of times they even get away scott free or super light punishment? While the victims will have to spend a long time or even a lifetime to try to recover? Is that fair?

Most people will never take accountability and ownership fully if they have a way to escape it.

I'll give a rock climbing example where a climber is halfway up and discovers there are no more handholds to allow him to climb up further.

Grit is when the climber back tracks and find another way up. If that new route is also a dead end, the climber back tracks further to find another alternate route. The climber does this repeatly until he reaches the top.

That is on the assumption that is endless enegry. But humans have finite resources.

Stubborness is the climber not willing to consider alternative routes and insists on trying the same dead end route again and again, hoping that the cliff will magically change and provide a new hand hold the next time.

Same rock climbing example - cutting loss is when the climber have already tried several of the most feasible routes and cannot proceed. By trying several alternatives, he has a better understanding that he does not have the skill to ascend further, then decides to climb down.

Giving up too soon is when said climber gives up without even trying alternatives.




When comapred this way, these words themselves already have different connotations tied to them.

Strategizing mainly is to position oneself better for self benefit. Might or might not be done at the expense of others, but that's not the goal.

Scheming generally means there is detrimental impact to others. Might not even benefit oneself.

Does it matter? When one already win, and have enormous control and power they can whitewash all the narrative by then.

To me, there are definitely differences, but I can understand why some people would look at it this way.

Also, while we are in a realistic world where most people just celebrate the winners, we should be careful when attributing something to good or bad luck. Because this dismisses the work and effort of those who succeeded and those who failed.




Depends on what other benefits I can get out of the experience.

I know I won't win the gold medal in martial arts tournaments, I also know I won't be the one climbing fastest. Doesn't stop me from participating since I learn and improve myself each time.

Watching from the sidelines is very different from being a direct participant in the game.




Change the winning conditions.

For example, I know there are many fighters much better and more experienced than me in a tournament. I know full well that I am not going to win any medals.

For me, gaining experience is a win, even if I do not "win" any medals.

I am not there to prove anyone's stats are correct/wrong. I am there for myself.

The world only see your stats, you have stats you big shot.

I agree w the theory in edmw, got money got pride. More money even more pride.

SG example, who gets to jail from home? A particular ex miw.

US example, Epstein Files. All the elite do all the inhuman thing, still can cover up. And they actually find joy in it.

Ultimately is about luck, with luck you will rise to ranks, have power. Or born with power already. With power, you're almost invincible.