I think I too stupid to understand what Indranee is saying

[Clarence NMT]

Masked nric without goving birthday will much harder to get full nric, also age is hidden

 

[skylink67]

I learn new sentence structure:
Ceasing the use of brain does not mean that brain should necessarily become unused.

 

[SimpliCity2k]

“Second Minister for Finance Indranee Rajah emphasised that ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers does not mean that masked NRIC numbers should necessarily become unmasked and that this was a misunderstanding.”

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...66?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_20122024_cna


So what is the main point for ceasing the use of partially masked nric numbers?

 

[Dracky]

Masked NRIC to be ceased.

You can either use full NRIC or use something else eg. DOB, Mother's maiden name, Pet's name that suits your purpose. The government does not tell you what to do. It will show full NRIC for $33 fee.

 

[messi7]

Since when what these ministars says make sense

another mind **** is what CHT said about carlite is not about reducing the car population

 

[tidiii]

i read it as they dun wanna use ic but it does not mean it should be revealed

but in the end, i still dunno what is the answer to reveal or not

also someone got ur ic = can spam your singpass until its perma locked

singpass you need for many gov related things n some work need it daily also

 

[Itsnotfunny]

Black is not black unless u see it as black. Sounds about correct ?

 

[jeffprobst]

The issue is that if the government allows companies to bypass unmasking the NRIC without penalties, most businesses will opt for the easy route and drop any existing verification procedures. When problems inevitably arise, they’ll likely backtrack.

From the start, they should have just maintained the masking of NRICs. Their lack of foresight and inability to understand the consequences is evident, and now they’re scrambling to come up with solutions that only confuse people.

 

[Wilberttt]

from chatgpt:

me: what does ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers does not mean that masked NRIC numbers should necessarily become unmasked and that this was a misunderstanding mean in simple english?

chatgpt: In simple English, this statement means that just because the practice of using partially masked NRIC numbers (a personal identification number in Singapore) has stopped, it does not mean that previously hidden or partially hidden NRIC numbers should now be fully revealed. The idea that they should be fully exposed is a misunderstanding.

It just begs the question why didn't they be more explicit in their instructions and give examples.

Since 1 agency misunderstood, are there others?

 

[footi3]

the lie detectors would have ran amok if they were tied to it

 

[Flexamoria]

Woman cannot be leader

 

[audiovideo]

Should it be Elon musk

 

[エステ好きな野郎]

“Second Minister for Finance Indranee Rajah emphasised that ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers does not mean that masked NRIC numbers should necessarily become unmasked and that this was a misunderstanding.”

Such typical politician speak lol.

So what exactly did you mean?

Ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers means to stop that practice.

If you stop the practice of partially masking NRIC numbers, logically speaking it would imply that it is no longer necessary to partially mask them; and yet when that happened, you suddenly backtrack and say that even though we said it was ok to do that, you shouldn't have done that. Surely you didn't mean to completely mask the numbers as that would be a step in a completely different direction.

As you can see all this is very very confusing because it seems as if you keep this little flowchart in your head that no one can see except you and yet you expect everyone to understand it and your distorted sense of logic.

Throw another file for all I care.

I'd never vote for you.

 

[rider83]

“Second Minister for Finance Indranee Rajah emphasised that ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers does not mean that masked NRIC numbers should necessarily become unmasked and that this was a misunderstanding.”

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...66?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_20122024_cna


So what is the main point for ceasing the use of partially masked nric numbers?

I just want to state my understanding and questions following the article. Here are some points I copy and paste from the CNA article (in bold).

“We are very sorry to have caused them much anxiety,” said Minister for Digital Development and Information Josephine Teo at a press conference, adding that the public’s concerns are taken seriously.

The government had intended to make the change only after explaining to citizens the rationale but before it could do so, the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA) went ahead and launched its Bizfile portal, with a search function that produced people's names and full NRIC numbers.

“On behalf of ACRA, I would like to apologise for causing anxiety and concerns to members of the public over the disclosure of NRIC numbers on our Bizfile portal,” said ACRA’s chief executive Chia-Tern Huey Min.

Mrs Chia-Tern said the Ministry of Digital Development and Information (MDDI) had in July “issued a circular for government agencies to cease any planned use of masked NRIC numbers in new business processes and services”.

“Unfortunately, there was a lapse of coordination between the staff on how this was to be implemented. ACRA then proceeded on the misunderstanding that it should unmask NRIC numbers in the new Bizfile portal,” explained Mrs Chia-Tern.

Correct me if I am wrong, these are the following points I understand:

1. Minister and ACRA's chief executive apologised for causing anxiety and concerns. The apology was not about unmasking NRIC details which can directly lead to someone being scammed or pranks played on these people
2. MDDI issued circular and ACRA's staff (is he/she a scapegoat?) had understood wrongly the circular and proceeded to unmask the NRIC number before the intended time.

My questions are:

1. So there is nothing wrong with unmasking NRIC numbers, are they going to do it in the near future?
2. What does PDPA or PDPC have to say about the above?
3. I would love to see the circular that MDDI sent to agencies to see if it was really misunderstood?

Hope some of these questions will be answered in a parliament session

 

[titusilvering]

“Second Minister for Finance Indranee Rajah emphasised that ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers does not mean that masked NRIC numbers should necessarily become unmasked and that this was a misunderstanding.”

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...66?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_20122024_cna


So what is the main point for ceasing the use of partially masked nric numbers?

Thats why you not earning millions

 

[rider83]

“Second Minister for Finance Indranee Rajah emphasised that ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers does not mean that masked NRIC numbers should necessarily become unmasked and that this was a misunderstanding.”

Such typical politician speak lol.

So what exactly did you mean?

Ceasing the use of partially masked NRIC numbers means to stop that practice.

If you stop the practice of partially masking NRIC numbers, logically speaking it would imply that it is no longer necessary to partially mask them; and yet when that happened, you suddenly backtrack and say that even though we said it was ok to do that, you shouldn't have done that. Surely you didn't mean to completely mask the numbers as that would be a step in a completely different direction.

As you can see all this is very very confusing because it seems as if you keep this little flowchart in your head that no one can see except you and yet you expect everyone to understand it and your distorted sense of logic.

Throw another file for all I care.

I'd never vote for you.

What exactly does it mean?

It means very simply that whoever came up with the circular did not state clearly and specifically that the ministry wants to do about it. It is extremely irresponsible to not give proper instructions and then those who work for the ministry got misled.

 

[エステ好きな野郎]

What exactly does it mean?

It means very simply that whoever came up with the circular did not state clearly and specifically that the ministry wants to do about it. It is extremely irresponsible to not give proper instructions and then those who work for the ministry got misled.

Yeah lah, that's obvious. I want to know what Indranee meant.

 

[Prime 13]

Not interested in her mansplaining.
See chiu at the polls.

 

[PaulLevesque]

Identifying white horse is to ensure no special treatment

 

[xEpyonx]

how come PDPA PDPC so quiet?

because not opposition members.
just imagine what will happen if WP Town Council data leaked.