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floodgate said:
have you looked at your thinkpad user manual? their drawings and instructions are not bad.
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TOTALLY DIDNT REALIZE THAT, HAHA user manual teaches you how to remove keyboard, palm rest and even how to install the msata/pcie!

thanks!

edit: how did you guys ship to Singapore? CGW? vpost?
 
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is it possible to put the samsung 830 ssd and the hdd together in x220 without modifying the ssd or hdd?
 
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I also just got my x230.
Should I upgrade to the mSATA 128GB? anyone here already installed for x230?
the keyboard imo is quite good. solid feel. too bad i didn't got the IPS panel version.
 
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can i install samsung 830 ssd and a msata ssd in x220? anyone try that before? lol
 
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jk_eugenetay said:
I also just got my x230.
Should I upgrade to the mSATA 128GB? anyone here already installed for x230?
the keyboard imo is quite good. solid feel. too bad i didn't got the IPS panel version.
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You bought it from US?
 
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baseline said:
can i install samsung 830 ssd and a msata ssd in x220? anyone try that before? lol
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Yes, you can. IMO, having a SSD and a mSATA SSD together is overkill. The SSD will be faster than the mSATA SSD because it is SATA3 compared to the mSATA SSD which is SATA2. The mSATA SSD will be more expensive than a normal SSD ($:GB ratio), which you will also have to find a 7mm SSD.

jk_eugenetay said:
I also just got my x230.
Should I upgrade to the mSATA 128GB? anyone here already installed for x230?
the keyboard imo is quite good. solid feel. too bad i didn't got the IPS panel version.
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My new X230 is a i5 and it seems responsive enough but like my X220, adding a mSATA SSD gives me the best of both worlds, speed from the mSATA SSD and space from the 320GB HDD.

After using both the X220 and X230, I still prefer the X220's keyboard. Why?

1. No PageBack/Forward keys beside the arrow keys.
2. Function keys are now white instead of blue
3. Esc & Delete keys so small
4. Miss my blue Enter key
5. I use the Light function often, so on the X220 keyboard, I instinctively know that to turn it on, the keys are at both ends of the keyboard.
6. The Thinkvantage key is now black and does NOTHING!! It does not launch the Toolbox (or in the X230's case, the LSC).
7. Trackpoint middle key is slightly less protruding.
8. There is no BT icon besides the wifi icon on the screen!! So the only way to check is via Windows!

Redeeming factor of the X230?

1. Slightly faster CPU / HD4000 > Can play D3 at slightly higher graphic options
2. More USB 3.0 ports. Standard for i5 instead of the X220 which they only have USB 3.0 port for the i7.

Short summary of my comparison of my X220 and X230. :)
 
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ahtea said:
Yes, most of the laptops, the mSATA slot only give you up to SATAII performance. The T420 is the same as X220, only SATAII performance.
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Huh? X220 and T420 only SATA2?

My made in China Crucial M4 128gb SSD registered 7.9 on my T420.

I'll be receiving my X220 next week. Gonna install my Crucial M4 made in Singapore 256gb SSD and see what's the index.

I thought SATA2 will not give 7.9 on Windows index.

By the way, my X220 is a IPS panel. Waiting eagerly for it...
 
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Azrielsc said:
Yes, you can. IMO, having a SSD and a mSATA SSD together is overkill. The SSD will be faster than the mSATA SSD because it is SATA3 compared to the mSATA SSD which is SATA2. The mSATA SSD will be more expensive than a normal SSD ($:GB ratio), which you will also have to find a 7mm SSD.



My new X230 is a i5 and it seems responsive enough but like my X220, adding a mSATA SSD gives me the best of both worlds, speed from the mSATA SSD and space from the 320GB HDD.

After using both the X220 and X230, I still prefer the X220's keyboard. Why?

1. No PageBack/Forward keys beside the arrow keys.
2. Function keys are now white instead of blue
3. Esc & Delete keys so small
4. Miss my blue Enter key
5. I use the Light function often, so on the X220 keyboard, I instinctively know that to turn it on, the keys are at both ends of the keyboard.
6. The Thinkvantage key is now black and does NOTHING!! It does not launch the Toolbox (or in the X230's case, the LSC).
7. Trackpoint middle key is slightly less protruding.
8. There is no BT icon besides the wifi icon on the screen!! So the only way to check is via Windows!

Redeeming factor of the X230?

1. Slightly faster CPU / HD4000 > Can play D3 at slightly higher graphic options
2. More USB 3.0 ports. Standard for i5 instead of the X220 which they only have USB 3.0 port for the i7.

Short summary of my comparison of my X220 and X230. :)
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Thanks for the review. I feel so relieved. Just bought a T420 and X220 because of the keyboard. Going to order a T520 to chope the legendary keyboard. Perhaps I should get a W520 instead. Hee!
 
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ginseng1 said:
Huh? X220 and T420 only SATA2?

My made in China Crucial M4 128gb SSD registered 7.9 on my T420.

I'll be receiving my X220 next week. Gonna install my Crucial M4 made in Singapore 256gb SSD and see what's the index.

I thought SATA2 will not give 7.9 on Windows index.

By the way, my X220 is a IPS panel. Waiting eagerly for it...
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On the mSATA yes, it is SATA2. On the main HDD bay, it is SATA3.
 
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ginseng1 said:
Thanks for the review. I feel so relieved. Just bought a T420 and X220 because of the keyboard. Going to order a T520 to chope the legendary keyboard. Perhaps I should get a W520 instead. Hee!
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No worries. Maybe I am still a Thinkpad traditionalist. :)

But I have to say that amongst the few island style laptops that I have used, the Thinkpad's seems to be the best but nothing beats the traditional keys.

Will be ordering 2 more T420, instead of the T430. I believe my colleagues will not mind the T430 keyboards but since I have 2x T420, I must have well get T420 so that HDDs can be swapped without worrying about software clashes with the T430!

And luckily, the X230 shares the same Thinkpad ultrabase! Don't have to spend another S$200+ for that!
 
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