Illusion Connect

[Jounouchi]

Casual game, I am in US1 since opening.

 

[Remless]

Perhaps the term 'casual' needs to be defined. If this game is a casual game, then 90% of the games in the stores are 'casual' game.

Among all the 'casual' games that I am playing, I encounter the most roadblocks in this one that I need to rethink and spend efforts. Each normal chapter has 40-50 stages and the collapse version are tough to get 3* (in order to sweep). Most stages cannot be autoed.

Its not as grindy and time-consuming as genshin impact, but certainly not as casual as sword master story and many other gacha games.

Well, there are 'casual time' in this game and its mainly because of roadblocks. Like for me, I hit a roadblock now at account lvl 50+ and need to wait for resources to upgrade my team to further progress.

 

[athenodorus]

Casual in the sense that you can just play for 15mins to clear stam and dailies and move on with your life. It's not those that requires players to actively grind on the game whole day to progress.

Maybe you need to tune your mindset instead of asking the rest to conform to your definition.
If ppl feel it's casual then it is to them. You feel it's not then ok too. Just different perspective. I've played many games and to me this is definitely casual enough.

Anyway, I'm stuck at 16 now due to the lack of resources to upgrade. Gold and crystals are always drained so fast. Basically login to sweep now and wait till I have enough resources.

 

[Remless]

Casual in the sense that you can just play for 15mins to clear stam and dailies and move on with your life. It's not those that requires players to actively grind on the game whole day to progress.

Maybe you need to tune your mindset instead of asking the rest to conform to your definition.

I've played many games and to me this is definitely casual enough.

Well, that means u are not playing it like how most others are playing in this.

There are 3 stamina restore periods at 11am, 5pm and 7pm. We need to login to claim these in order to progress as stamina is the most precious resource in the game. Like I said, the story stages are numerous and its not something that a player can expect to progress without devoting efforts and time.

If you compared it to genshin impact or such games with no nrg system, then of course, its a casual game compared to them. U cannot even grind for the whole day even if u want to.

But compared the rest of the gacha games with a stamina/nrg, like all of them, this game limits the time we play. It does not make it 'casual' compared to the rest of the gacha games.

Just because u guys take it casually does not make a game 'casual'.

And like I said, the 'casual time' is mainly due to roadblocks.

The casual games I consider really casual are things like sword mastery story, etc where there is practically no roadblocks. Even if I don't login for days, I can still progress and continue from where I left off.


Not going to argue further with this, but just gonna set expectations right. There are players in this game right now who are struggling to progress and are fustrated, be it in reddit, discord or other channels. Its not that much of an easy and casual game that anyone can pick up and have an easy time.

 

[athenodorus]

Well, that means u are not playing it like how most others are playing in this.

There are 3 stamina restore periods at 11am, 5pm and 7pm. We need to login to claim these in order to progress as stamina is the most precious resource in the game. Like I said, the story stages are numerous and its not something that a player can expect to progress without devoting efforts and time.

If you compared it to genshin impact or such games with no nrg system, then of course, its a casual game compared to them. U cannot even grind for the whole day even if u want to.

But compared the rest of the gacha games with a stamina/nrg, like all of them, this game limits the time we play. It does not make it 'casual' compared to the rest of the gacha games.

Just because u guys take it casually does not make a game 'casual'.

How do u know I don't login to claim and I don't know how to play the game? It's just login 3 times per day. That is considered a lot for a game?

Anyway you happy can already.

I like the game and I find it casual compared to others I've played previously.

 

[Remless]

How do u know I don't login to claim and I don't know how to play the game? It's just login 3 times per day. That is considered a lot for a game?

Anyway you happy can already.

I like the game and I find it casual compared to others I've played previously.

Anyway, just using your words. Don't use your benchmark and expect people to follow. For me, I just want to set expectations correct then just brand this as a 'casual' game. If it is, there won't be so much youtube coverage on this game on team building and progression.

I don't see this game any difference in efforts from games like arknights or epic seven and I think no one called those games 'casual' games.

 

[athenodorus]

Anyway, just using your words. Don't use your benchmark and expect people to follow. For me, I just want to set expectations correct then just brand this as a 'casual' game. If it is, there won't be so much youtube coverage on this game on team building and progression.

I don't see this game any difference in efforts from games like arknights or epic seven and I think no one called those games 'casual' games.

Maybe you should read your responses. We are just giving our opinions of the game based on our experiences and only you seems to have an issue with it just because your mindset differs.

Setting expectations correctly? Seems like it's based purely on your expectation isn't it. only you can define the game experience and others should follow you? You can't just put off those who find the game casual and want them to follow you.

I rest my case and not going to participate in the thread and enjoy my game and discussion at other more constructive platform.

 

[Remless]

Maybe you should read your responses. We are just giving our opinions of the game based on our experiences and only you seems to have an issue with it just because your mindset differs.

Setting expectations correctly? Seems like it's based purely on your expectation isn't it. only you can define the game experience and others should follow you? You can't just put off those who find the game casual and want them to follow you.

I rest my case and not going to participate in the thread and enjoy my game and discussion at other more constructive platform.

Back to using your own words.

I am also giving opinions of this game based on my experience and you seem to have an issue with it. Maybe you think only games with no nrg like genshin impact are 'not casual' and those with are casual.

The moment u brand it as a 'casual game', u are already the one setting an expectation. 'So only u can define the game experience and others should follow u'? Again, using your own words back at u.

All I am saying is have this expectation in this game: there are roadblocks, the stages can get really dirty cos' AI can play dirty and prepare for some frustrations along the way. I already said this in the beginning of this thread.

Again, using your own words: 'You can't put off those who find the game NOT casual and want them to follow u'.

In all my responses, I never want anyone to follow me. Its u who seems to keep on harping on it. All I want to say is, prepare for roadblocks and fustrations. And you don't usually find these in 'casual' games.


To be constructive instead of just arguing nonsenses since we have different viewpoints, let's just say:

Compared to games like genshin impact which players can possibly grind for the whole day, this game is 'casual'.

Compared to games like sword master story and other idle games, this game is not casual.

It also depends on 'hardcoreness' of players.

If hardcore players find games like arknights and epic seven 'casual', then this game is not difference, perhaps a little bit more frustrating than those since the AI and stage design can be really 'dirty and cheap'

For non-hardcores, this game is not as casual as you find from idle games or pinball games.

 

[Remless]

For prospective players who may be interested in this game, this is a comment by probably a chinese player who started early in the chinese version of this game back in Feb, long before I even know of this game (I only know of this game when its slated for a global release). This comment is still in qooapp in the chinese version of the game.

Of course, by now I do not agree its a trash game like this guy said (and he is being a bit too emo), but it help to set expectations. So I know this game is hard and combat is fairly imbalance when I started.

Eg, we can only deploy 1 unit at a time but AI can deploy multiple units at the same time and they all launch their special attacks the moment they appear on the field. (which is why he said we get attacked and only at the receiving end)

Also, AI can deploy multiple copies of the same unit where we can't. Some units has passives like deal 200% damage to leader when these units are killed, and when u aoe them without concern, your leader is dead.

So I cannot rate this game as 'casual' for the general audience, unlike those people. Its more for people who are game for a challenge and some frustrations.

For the global release, the game had been very generous (more than 40 coupons codes of freebies had been released) and its not that hard to get 10x pulls so far.

(PS: The duplicate and unit upgrade system had probably been revamped and upgrading SSR is no longer as insane as he had described. Duplicates are still needed but much more manageable).

 

[athenodorus]

Back to using your own words.

I am also giving opinions of this game based on my experience and you seem to have an issue with it. Maybe you think only games with no nrg like genshin impact are 'not casual' and those with are casual.

The moment u brand it as a 'casual game', u are already the one setting an expectation. 'So only u can define the game experience and others should follow u'? Again, using your own words back at u.

All I am saying is have this expectation in this game: there are roadblocks, the stages can get really dirty cos' AI can play dirty and prepare for some frustrations along the way. I already said this in the beginning of this thread.

Again, using your own words: 'You can't put off those who find the game NOT casual and want them to follow u'.

In all my responses, I never want anyone to follow me. Its u who seems to keep on harping on it. All I want to say is, prepare for roadblocks and fustrations. And you don't usually find these in 'casual' games.


To be constructive instead of just arguing nonsenses since we have different viewpoints, let's just say:

Compared to games like genshin impact which players can possibly grind for the whole day, this game is 'casual'.

Compared to games like sword master story and other idle games, this game is not casual.

It also depends on 'hardcoreness' of players.

If hardcore players find games like arknights and epic seven 'casual', then this game is not difference, perhaps a little bit more frustrating than those since the AI and stage design can be really 'dirty and cheap'

For non-hardcores, this game is not as casual as you find from idle games or pinball games.

Yup my words are good that's why you keep using it. You never wanted people to follow? Let's see. When I shared it's a casual game to me, you CORRECTED me (since you like to play own words, hey check back on what you wrote like I said). And someone else also described it subsequently and guess what? You can read your own reaction.

Don't be so narrowed minded. Your game examples are just that few ones which you keep referring to. Idle games = casual to you? No road block? No need strategy? Please play more idle and afk games. The main difference is they can accumulate resources being inactive while this game uses sweep.

Go to bigger community like Reddit and discord to observe yourself if anyone claimed this game to be time consuming or grindy. Open up your mindset. Abandoning this thread so you can have it to yourself and be the mod here like you love to be k.

 

[Remless]

Yup my words are good that's why you keep using it. You never wanted people to follow? Let's see. When I shared it's a casual game to me, you CORRECTED me (since you like to play own words, hey check back on what you wrote like I said). And someone else also described it subsequently and guess what? You can read your own reaction.

Don't be so narrowed minded. Your game examples are just that few ones which you keep referring to. Idle games = casual to you? No road block? No need strategy? Please play more idle and afk games. The main difference is they can accumulate resources being inactive while this game uses sweep.

Go to bigger community like Reddit and discord to observe yourself if anyone claimed this game to be time consuming or grindy. Open up your mindset. Abandoning this thread so you can have it to yourself and be the mod here like you love to be k.

So, I think the usage of 'corrected' offended you, probably you don't like people to 'correct' your opinion, even if its not entirely correct. I wonder who is the narrow-minded one in this case. Lol. And well, sorry, I am not a fan of your words, just u saying u self-pwned yourself.

I reacted to these reactions cos' I do not agree and voiced an alternative opinion. So do I just shut people up and asked people to follow me? Maybe you should stop being so self-assuming and put words into my mouth.

Well, again, I did not say that it is time consuming or grindy (again, u putting words into my mouth) but I said there is grind (which u said there is no grind. This is incorrect).

I don't think u are looking at discord or reddit carefully at all. Look through again. I had provided evidence that there are players who find the game difficult and are having problems. (Well, I never said these players are complaining about time and grind, did I? When did I?)

Seriously, I think u should self-reflect on your behaviour now. (Thought u said u are not coming back to this thread?)


Well, again to clarify, since u obviously do not understand.

The game is difficult in a number of stages, and the stage requirement for 3* are not easy to meet, especially the 'Leader with 50% hp left' and 'clear stage in 120 secs'. So for players who cannot clear the stages with 3*, they have to manual the stage, slowly get the upgrade items to upgrade their chars in order to 3* the stage eventually and sweep for the rest of the chars of the same class.

That is the grind, get it?

And so, this game has many QoL feature like sweep that many other games need to either manual or auto. Then it falls into 'casual' category? Lol. I wonder who is being narrow-minded.

Like I said, we need to define casual. What is casual to u may not be casual to others. So don't immediately slap a 'casual' brand on this game irresponsibly. I do my part in setting expectations and explain why its not casual, when it comes to difficulty and efforts required. Neither did I said this is hardcore or whatever. Its up to the players who play this game to define what is 'casual' to them and I've played my part.

 

[Remless]

This is for prospective players, (if any in this forum):

Overall, this is a nice game. I won't rate it on casual for the general audience (I don't push what I assume is casual to me to others or just simply rate it as casual without justification). There are some pros and cons so expectations can be formed before people take out some time to try it.

Gameplay is quite similar to Arknights, though Arknights is tower defence where this game is like chess (Kill the enemy leader is the main objective). Personally, I enjoy this game more than Arknights cos' combat flow is faster and more exciting.

Pros:
1. Strategic gameplay is fast and exciting.
2. An active community and listening devs. The game during the halloween event was bashed by the community for having extreme difficulty in the event for a recently released game. The devs listened and fixed the difficulty to be more manageable.
3. QoL features like fast sweep for stages players had fully conquered and 3*. This save a lot of time for farming materials to improve chars and equips.
4. Rate for SSR is 2%, but all permanent SSRs are technically farmable in trials. There are limited time SSRs, which players can still farm for their duplicates as long as they own a copy already.
5. Some of the cash shop items are very highly worth purchasing, for players who don't mind paying. For the stuff they gave, its quite exceptional even compared to other gacha games.
6. Currently, the game is generous in giving freebies and summon tickets. Hope that it will last.

Cons:
1. The game has difficulty spikes, a lot of them. Many stages, even when player's total teampower is much higher than the recommended power for the stage, the AI can still give players a hard time. Its not rare to hear players take 4-5 tries to clear a stage, and much more tries to 3* it.
2. The normal campaign is long and somewhat tedious. Most of the stages cannot be autoed even when you have higher power.
3. The SSRs are not created equally. Some SSRs are simply god-tier and must-haves, while others are really not useful. There is a tier-list and initial reroll is highly recommended.
4. There are, and continue to be, SSRs locked behind a paywall.
5. Certain QoL features are also locked behind a paywall. Eg, if u buy a special pack (one-time purchase, and the benefits last forever), excess natural stamina (nrg) can be stored and continue to be obtained even if your current stamina is at maxed.
6. Like most gacha games, for both PvP and PvE, is pay-to-win.

 

[UchihaSasuke]

anyone can help to see which account is better or i need to reroll again?

1st account
SSR Miyuki and Nicola
SR Diamond, Ann, Amon, Rikia, Gigi

2nd account
SSR Kiraya, Miyuki, Hotaru
SR Diamond, Beatrice, Amon, Mei, Chiyo

 

[Remless]

anyone can help to see which account is better or i need to reroll again?

1st account
SSR Miyuki and Nicola
SR Diamond, Ann, Amon, Rikia, Gigi

2nd account
SSR Kiraya, Miyuki, Hotaru
SR Diamond, Beatrice, Amon, Mei, Chiyo

I'll suggest keeping the 2nd account, though I won't advise spending your starter gems on that beginner guaranteed SSR banner. The 3 SSRs on that banner are not what you would want to start out with and the banner is there forever, so u can get them anytime when your account stabilized.

The 1st account has better SRs, but you would get them as u continue on. Pan and Rikia are must-haves, while Angie, Gigi and Ann are nice SRs to start out also.

 

[UchihaSasuke]

I'll suggest keeping the 2nd account, though I won't advise spending your starter gems on that beginner guaranteed SSR banner. The 3 SSRs on that banner are not what you would want to start out with and the banner is there forever, so u can get them anytime when your account stabilized.

The 1st account has better SRs, but you would get them as u continue on. Pan and Rikia are must-haves, while Angie, Gigi and Ann are nice SRs to start out also.

hmm..so which one can i reroll? or maybe i get another device or bluestack/nox to reroll?

 

[Remless]

hmm..so which one can i reroll? or maybe i get another device or bluestack/nox to reroll?

Its not hard to get SRs, so I suggest abandon the 1st account and keep the 2nd account.

If you can get Maki, Anna, Selina or Yuffie (any one of them. They are off-banners, so u need to have some off-banner luck) + a Miyuki, then the account is golden. If you cannot, then settle for your 2nd account to start.

 

[UchihaSasuke]

Its not hard to get SRs, so I suggest abandon the 1st account and keep the 2nd account.

If you can get Maki, Anna, Selina or Yuffie (any one of them. They are off-banners, so u need to have some off-banner luck) + a Miyuki, then the account is golden. If you cannot, then settle for your 2nd account to start.

how about..
SSR kiraya, nicola and yuffie
SR Beatrice, Tiffany, Mei

 

[Remless]

how about..
SSR kiraya, nicola and yuffie
SR Beatrice, Tiffany, Mei

Can also. Just to note that nicola is a late game good char. Sadly u won't have the time to farm her shards early as your priority won't be her. She's not very good at 3 star and shines only at higher stars.

You will get Miyuki after 1 week, and after that you have a chance to choose another SSR (Miyuki, Kiraya and Hersey), I'll suggest to choose Miyuki again to 4 star her.

Miyuki and Kasumi are the 2 chars generally people want to star them up asap. Save up for Kasumi (She is not available in new accounts and you need to wait for 2-3 weeks before her banner appears for u).

 

[UchihaSasuke]

sadly, always miss out 1 good one, got another..
Anna, Fenebeth, Nicola..y fenebeth..
harto, ann, rikia, gigi..

out of the above, which one should i reroll?

 

[Remless]

sadly, always miss out 1 good one, got another..
Anna, Fenebeth, Nicola..y fenebeth..
harto, ann, rikia, gigi..

out of the above, which one should i reroll?

Aww... Its really nice to start out with the best healer in the game (Anna).
But I think you will have a better headstart with the Kiraya-Yuffie account.