Insuiciffent Shielded SSD Sata Cable

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I used to assumed my ssd sata cables that come with motherboard are shielded. But after i replaced them with aftermarket shielded ones, i strip the cable sleeve of my ols ssd sata cable that bundled with motherboard.
To my surprise, there were shielded with plastic tube, leaving them exposed to electric field/electronic magnetic field.
Without knowing, i might have playing/using my playstation computer with corrupted datas. I have took a picture of it, kindly share your opinions. :)

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I used to assumed my ssd sata cables that come with motherboard are shielded. But after i replaced them with aftermarket shielded ones, i strip the cable sleeve of my ols ssd sata cable that bundled with motherboard.
To my surprise, there were shielded with plastic tube, leaving them exposed to electric field/electronic magnetic field.
Without knowing, i might have playing/using my playstation computer with corrupted datas. I have took a picture of it, kindly share your opinions. :)

EmYCPHt.jpeg
Shielding cost money. Long cables definitely need to be shielded. Short cables likely to be unshielded for cost saving. ESATA cables are all fully shielded.
 

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Shielding cost money. Long cables definitely need to be shielded. Short cables likely to be unshielded for cost saving. ESATA cables are all fully shielded.
yaloh... even some cable that come with enterprise ssd... they are unshielded

not a big deal, good to have, not a must for most cases

there should be some cable test youtube video, which I remember connector and wire quality is more important
 

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For anyone who are interested, i posted a wikipedia link on sata's specifications.
And from picture and ink, show a fully double shielded sata cable compared to the one i had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA

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SATA cable showing the two foil shielded differential pairs
 

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that say... if everything need to shield there are so many expose parts , u got to live inside a faraday cage liao lo

anyway or error correction lah

thats why it sound so audiophile :p good to have, not a must

SATA physical coding uses a line encoding system known as 8b/10b This scheme serves multiple functions required to sustain a differential serial link. First, the stream contains necessary synchronization information that allows the SATA host/drive to extract the clock. Note the SATA link has no clock line. The 8b/10b encoded sequence embeds periodic edge transitions to allow the receiver to achieve bit-alignment without the use of a separately transmitted reference clock waveform. The sequence also maintains a neutral bitstream, which lets transmit drivers and receiver inputs be AC Coupled. Generally, the actual SATA signaling is half-duplex, meaning that it can only read or write data at any one time, although Full Duplex operation is physically present.

Also, SATA uses some of the special characters defined in 8b/10b. The PHY layer uses the comma character to maintain symbol-alignment. A specific four-symbol sequence, the ALIGN primitive, is used for clock rate-matching between the two devices on the link. Other special symbols communicate flow control information produced and consumed in the higher layers (link and transport).

Separate point-to-point AC-coupledLVDS) links are used for physical transmission between host and drive.

The Physical layer is responsible for detecting the other SATA/device on a cable, and link initialization. During the link-initialization process, the PHY is responsible for locally generating special out-of-band signals by switching the transmitter between electrical-idle and specific 10b-characters in a defined pattern, negotiating a mutually supported signaling rate (1.5, 3.0, or 6.0 Gbit/s), and finally synchronizing to the far-end device’s PHY-layer data stream. During this time, no data is sent from the link-layer.

Once link-initialization has completed, the link-layer takes over data-transmission, with the PHY providing only the 8b/10b conversion before bit transmission.
 

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that say... if everything need to shield there are so many expose parts , u got to live inside a faraday cage liao lo

anyway or error correction lah

thats why it sound so audiophile :p good to have, not a must

reminds me of Chuck McGill sia… 🤣

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that say... if everything need to shield there are so many expose parts , u got to live inside a faraday cage liao lo

anyway or error correction lah

thats why it sound so audiophile :p good to have, not a must
Since you mentioned audiophile, i share with you the improvement for audio cd play from using a better shielded sata cable. The results are...more enjoyable and healthier audio music play. :)
 

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Yet again another nonense thread.
PS TS if you got data corrupted means the SATA cable got issue just replace it.
Is not about whether is it shielded or not.

Most internal cables in PC are all tube using rubber housing as a electrical insulator.
Seriously take up electrical course and don't tell me you want to braid every cable
in the PC?

SATA cable there are no branded or higher grade SATA cable.
If you want better quality cable can get ASUS or Gigabyte OEM cable from Global Cybermind at Sim Lim.
Try ask the staff whether such cable need to braid or not they will huh at you one.
 

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Since you mentioned audiophile, i share with you the improvement for audio cd play from using a better shielded sata cable. The results are...more enjoyable and healthier audio music play. :)

I am audiophile

But must be a smart audiophile la

Mostly audiophile product look nice niah, over engineered , over polished , over rated

Btw someone measured by recording, then match it up... No difference at all

Placebo very serious business ok
 

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I am audiophile

But must be a smart audiophile la

Mostly audiophile product look nice niah, over engineered , over polished , over rated

Btw someone measured by recording, then match it up... No difference at all

Placebo very serious business ok
You play your audio music with computer or hifi equipments ?
Since you hope to be a smart audiophile.

Sharing some useful tips from me;

1) invest on low cost emf/ef shield for cables, we are living in such polluted environment. It keep the player/user clean and healthy.
2) There are a lot of counterfeit electrical/electronic items that are fused. Believe this that even
multiple fuses are installed, they still can function. Don't ask me why as you might have guess i know the answer. :rolleyes:
 

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Of course shielded cables are good but that doesn't mean unshielded cables cannot work.

In any case sata data transfer is still in terms of digital zeros and ones, and with error checking algorithms in place, there will not be a problem for unshielded cables to work in almost 95% of the cases. Those 5% of the cases will have an abnormally high levels of noise that results in many errors to overwhelm the unshielded cable, but these are rare occasions.
 

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You play your audio music with computer or hifi equipments ?
Since you hope to be a smart audiophile.

Sharing some useful tips from me;

1) invest on low cost emf/ef shield for cables, we are living in such polluted environment. It keep the player/user clean and healthy.
2) There are a lot of counterfeit electrical/electronic items that are fused. Believe this that even
multiple fuses are installed, they still can function. Don't ask me why as you might have guess i know the answer. :rolleyes:

Just be happy with it

Chifi is cheap and cheerful

1) u stay in faraday cage la, what noise siah.... If so bad until can listen to noise... Your system something wrong... Grounding issue.. low to mid end turntable system are noisy but digital system very hard to be affected by noise... All got correction everywhere
 

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Just be happy with it

Chifi is cheap and cheerful

1) u stay in faraday cage la, what noise siah.... If so bad until can listen to noise... Your system something wrong... Grounding issue.. low to mid end turntable system are noisy but digital system very hard to be affected by noise... All got correction everywhere
Same here, playstation computer for my audio music and game play wares, used to play hifi/av/car audio.
 
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