Insurance agents approaching NSFs

iamveryguailan

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Not sure if this is the correct subforum to post this thread, my intention is to raise awareness to NSFs on insurance agents approaching them. If this is not the correct subforum, please move it.

Disclaimer: I am not an agent, I am someone who feel NSFs should be more informed about such insurance purchases, especially for many since you are possibly receiving an allowance for the first time in your life
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I believe you all may have experienced it yourself - especially at MRT stations when you are wearing your Smart 4, preparing to book in/out. Insurance agents will approach you on the pretext of doing a survey, or giving out free gifts, or luring you with some promise of good returns. They will then introduce you certain "investment" plans, such as saving plans, endowments, investment linked policies. Common persuasion include telling you that you can save up for your university fees, for your retirement 40 years later, and that you can easily start from just $100 a month.

Now, I'm not saying insurance is bad. In fact, insurance is very important. The question is, what kind of insurance, and how much should the coverage be? How extensive do you need the coverage to be, and what is your budget? I am not an expert nor an agent (there are many detailed threads in Money Mind and EDMW subforums), so I won't give technical details. However, just some advice, go in with your eyes wide open, and take everything the agent says with a pinch of salt. Clarify if needed, challenge politely and tackle assumptions mentioned.

Expectedly, many agents like to tout plans that will give them high commissions, such as whole life plans, investment linked plans (ILP), endowments etc. Do not take everything at face value, such as the "promised returns". There are guaranteed and non-guaranteed portions in many investment linked insurance plans, and even then, it may take a long time before you break even on your premiums paid. A lot of people are suckered in by the "returns". Many blindly believe claims and are fueled by a fear that they are not adequately covered, that their wealth is eroded by inflation, that they do not have enough for their future or retirement.

Premiums are usually paid either on a monthly basis or on annual basis. Think long term - if you think that you need the cashflow for your post NS life (eg: studies), then it will be good not to over commit. Remember, NS allowance stops immediately after ORD. There are cases where people terminate policies as they are unable to continue paying for them, incurring major losses. So, it is very important to buy a plan that you can afford. Of course, the higher the coverage the better, but it comes at a cost. What use does a high coverage plan has when it lapsed as you cannot afford to continue paying for the premiums? A $100k plan that you can afford is much better than a $500k plan that you struggle to pay, and let is lapse eventually. You can always adjust or take up new policies after you are more financially able in future.

Think about it properly, gather the info and speak to your family, friends. Read up on the policy wordings, term and conditions and compare more quotes before committing. There are basic insurance plans that is good to have, such as term insurance, critical illness and hospitalisation plans. Many agents do not like to sell these plans as the commission is low compared to ILPs, endowments, whole life etc.

I'm not saying all agents are like that. But in any sales industry, there are always black sheeps that spoil the industry's reputation. If you have signed up for a policy but felt that it is not suitable, you have a 14-day free look period where you can cancel the plan.

At the end of the day, remember this: you are responsible for your own money and life. A fool and his money is soon parted. Take charge of this and do not get swayed easily. :)


TLDR: Insurance agents will approach you as an NSF, trying to induce you to sign up for plans. Insurance is important, but only you will know what you really need, based on your priorities, lifestyle etc. Do not blindly buy into plans. Seek more info, opinions fro, parents, friends, commanders if needed.
 
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anyway as nsf and nsmen during ICT u have 150k group term life and 150k group personal accidents coverage for free.
 

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Cause you pay for the group insurance but the policy owner is Mindef. If just before your injury claim, Mindef declared that that you are no longer under group insurance mean you pay for nothing all these years.


why would u even take outside plans when aviva is so cheap for nsf?
 

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Cause you pay for the group insurance but the policy owner is Mindef. If just before your injury claim, Mindef declared that that you are no longer under group insurance mean you pay for nothing all these years.

mindef? its outsourced to aviva.
 

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Cause you pay for the group insurance but the policy owner is Mindef. If just before your injury claim, Mindef declared that that you are no longer under group insurance mean you pay for nothing all these years.
you don't know what you are talking
mindef? its outsourced to aviva.
pardon him, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong.

MINDEF & MHA GROUP INSURANCE is the one that you get free & policy owner is Mindef. This is the main insurance.

You can top up Voluntary component (something like a rider) which is pay by you if you wants a higher amount of coverage, and/or wants to be covered outside your terms of service, and/or ifyou would like to insure your spouse and dependants too.

If Mindef cancel the main insurance, your Voluntary component will become void.


http://www2.aviva.com.sg/money-banter/new-mindef-mha-group-insurance-scheme/


mindef? its outsourced to aviva.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong.

MINDEF & MHA GROUP INSURANCE is the one that you get free & policy owner is Mindef. This is the main insurance.

You can top up Voluntary component (something like a rider) which is pay by you if you wants a higher amount of coverage, and/or wants to be covered outside your terms of service, and/or ifyou would like to insure your spouse and dependants too.

If Mindef cancel the main insurance, your Voluntary component will become void.


http://www2.aviva.com.sg/money-banter/new-mindef-mha-group-insurance-scheme/

You don't understand politics.
 

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i kena once when i book out in uniform as nsman

the stupid idiot ask me if i am a regular, i chao kan her and say CPL la and walk away jin song :s13:
 

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why would u even take outside plans when aviva is so cheap for nsf?

Aviva is cheap when you are young, but as u grow older, the premiums increases. It becomes very expensive above a certain age. It's a good plan to have but I feel it's not enough.

You may need another term plan to complement it etc
 

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Many agents camping at pasir ris interchange waiting for nsf to book out and milk them dry of their allowances.
 
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