Insurance - how much is enough?

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Hi, want to ask a question here
How much coverage you think is enough for working adult?
I saw some people get 150k, 300k, 500k, even some get 1mil coverage. What is your basis getting that much coverage?
Is there any guideline i can follow?
I myself don't have any coverage other than hospitalization plan

Is there anyone same like me, think that insurance is not necessary?
I've talked to some agents, but still not convinced that it is necessary.
Seeking for advice before it's too late.. Thanks..
 

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If you don't have dependants it's not that necessary, you'll just be responsible for your own finances.

If you have a family or are supporting your parents etc, the loss of your income upon disability or death etc will affect them greatly, as they may not even have enough for necessities to support their own lives.

The coverage you should be getting depends on how much people are depending on your income. The greater the dependency the higher your coverage should be.
 

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Hi, want to ask a question here
How much coverage you think is enough for working adult?
I saw some people get 150k, 300k, 500k, even some get 1mil coverage. What is your basis getting that much coverage?
Is there any guideline i can follow?
I myself don't have any coverage other than hospitalization plan

Is there anyone same like me, think that insurance is not necessary?
I've talked to some agents, but still not convinced that it is necessary.
Seeking for advice before it's too late.. Thanks..

insurance is necessary but you can self-insure.

For example, if you have an extra condo worth $2m. This is also an insurance policy that you can sell (or your family can sell) if anything happens to you.

Similarly, some people have many kilograms of gold stacked in their house. That is their insurance policy against collapse of the financial system (though I wonder if they insure their gold against theft...)
 

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You should have at minimum enough coverage to pay off your mortgage and any other liability plus living expenses for your dependents until they are independent.
 

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insurance is necessary but you can self-insure.

For example, if you have an extra condo worth $2m. This is also an insurance policy that you can sell (or your family can sell) if anything happens to you.

Similarly, some people have many kilograms of gold stacked in their house. That is their insurance policy against collapse of the financial system (though I wonder if they insure their gold against theft...)
Holding gold is a very poor substitute for term insurance.
 

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Holding gold is a very poor substitute for term insurance.

Gold is not term insurance. As stated in my post, it is supposed to be insurance against the collapse of the financial system.

So far, I don't see any insurance company selling insurance against collapse of financial system, so if you want all-round coverage, I guess you need to hold gold :D
 

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Hmm, here's what I suppose you could do. Ask yourself these few questions.

1) Do you have dependents? If no, maybe life insurance isn't exactly necessary for you. If yes, move on to question 2.

2) In the event of your unfortunate demise (touch wood), are your current assets enough to replace the income that you are currently earning so as to sustain the lifestyles of your dependents? If no, you might want to consider getting insured for a sum that makes up for what you may be missing. If yes, then you're probably self-insured. Unless you want to leave even more for your dependents, you don't exactly need life insurance.

Then again, deciding on the exact sum you want to be insured for is not so easy. As Lewis.T mentioned, you want this sum to be sufficient as a form of replacement income to support your dependents in the event of death/disability. This you should be able to figure with proper calculation (with the help of financial advisors if need be). If the agents you have spoken to are still leaving you unclear of whether you need insurance or not, then perhaps you're speaking to the wrong people!

Hope this helps.



Hi, want to ask a question here
How much coverage you think is enough for working adult?
I saw some people get 150k, 300k, 500k, even some get 1mil coverage. What is your basis getting that much coverage?
Is there any guideline i can follow?
I myself don't have any coverage other than hospitalization plan

Is there anyone same like me, think that insurance is not necessary?
I've talked to some agents, but still not convinced that it is necessary.
Seeking for advice before it's too late.. Thanks..
 

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wah, response so fast... thanks all :D

If you don't have dependants it's not that necessary, you'll just be responsible for your own finances.

If you have a family or are supporting your parents etc, the loss of your income upon disability or death etc will affect them greatly, as they may not even have enough for necessities to support their own lives.

The coverage you should be getting depends on how much people are depending on your income. The greater the dependency the higher your coverage should be.

Currently no dependents. I'm not supporting my parent as well at the moment, well the plan is to get my 1st property without their support, so no point I support them now.

insurance is necessary but you can self-insure.

For example, if you have an extra condo worth $2m. This is also an insurance policy that you can sell (or your family can sell) if anything happens to you.

Similarly, some people have many kilograms of gold stacked in their house. That is their insurance policy against collapse of the financial system (though I wonder if they insure their gold against theft...)

I think this is what I am trying to do now (self-insure), I have assets (though not $2m), but in case of emergencies should be able to cover also. but again i dunno how much is enough.

You should have at minimum enough coverage to pay off your mortgage and any other liability plus living expenses for your dependents until they are independent.

I should be able to do this, I will be in debt when buying property, but should be able to clear off very quickly

Hmm, here's what I suppose you could do. Ask yourself these few questions.

1) Do you have dependents? If no, maybe life insurance isn't exactly necessary for you. If yes, move on to question 2.

2) In the event of your unfortunate demise (touch wood), are your current assets enough to replace the income that you are currently earning so as to sustain the lifestyles of your dependents? If no, you might want to consider getting insured for a sum that makes up for what you may be missing. If yes, then you're probably self-insured. Unless you want to leave even more for your dependents, you don't exactly need life insurance.

Then again, deciding on the exact sum you want to be insured for is not so easy. As Lewis.T mentioned, you want this sum to be sufficient as a form of replacement income to support your dependents in the event of death/disability. This you should be able to figure with proper calculation (with the help of financial advisors if need be). If the agents you have spoken to are still leaving you unclear of whether you need insurance or not, then perhaps you're speaking to the wrong people!

Hope this helps.

1.) Not at the moment, after married then yes
2.) Hmm difficult question. Without current asset, my gf also working, so she can support herself. Actually my worry is CI, because of the treatment cost, but I think shield plan should be able to cover most of it, right?
 

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1) I see. Hmm here are things that you may wish to also consider. Suppose you decide you need a life policy when you eventually get married and start a family, you may not always be do so depending on health condition. Even if you are, you may be loaded /excluded due to new health conditions. Also, premiums paid will higher if purchased at an older age in terms of level term payment policies.

2) Yes shield plans can cover treatment for CI on a reimbursement basis. But you may want to upgrade your shield plan (if you have not already done so) as the more basic ones may not always cover the full costs of cancer treatment. See: https://www.moh.gov.sg/content/moh_..._MediShield_and_Private_Integrated_Plans.html

Also, if you think you might need additional lump sum payment in the event of CI, you can consider getting an early CI/CI plan. Do note however that CI plans are more expensive as opposed to getting them as riders attached to term/whole life policies.

1.) Not at the moment, after married then yes
2.) Hmm difficult question. Without current asset, my gf also working, so she can support herself. Actually my worry is CI, because of the treatment cost, but I think shield plan should be able to cover most of it, right?
 

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1) I see. Hmm here are things that you may wish to also consider. Suppose you decide you need a life policy when you eventually get married and start a family, you may not always be do so depending on health condition. Even if you are, you may be loaded /excluded due to new health conditions. Also, premiums paid will higher if purchased at an older age in terms of level term payment policies.

2) Yes shield plans can cover treatment for CI on a reimbursement basis. But you may want to upgrade your shield plan (if you have not already done so) as the more basic ones may not always cover the full costs of cancer treatment. See: https://www.moh.gov.sg/content/moh_..._MediShield_and_Private_Integrated_Plans.html

Also, if you think you might need additional lump sum payment in the event of CI, you can consider getting an early CI/CI plan. Do note however that CI plans are more expensive as opposed to getting them as riders attached to term/whole life policies.

1) I see, yes am aware of that
2) Upgraded, Prudential PruShield Plan A Premier, no rider though

So, back to my main question, how do I calculate how much should I cover?
150k? 300k? 500k?
Or let's say I have around 400-500k HDB fully paid, with some more liquid assets cash/shares/FD around 100k, is that enough coverage for average singaporean?
 

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OK I suppose you are looking in terms of a source of replacement income for your future wife/children? If so, maybe you would like to do a calculation of how much you think your family will need to last them until they are independent should you no longer be able to support them with your income. Alternatively if you aren't able to estimate, a general guideline is to multiply your annual income by 8-10 times. Subtract that by your net assets (not including house of course as they will need somewhere to live!) and what your spouse is able to provide since she is working.

There's a rough estimate of how much you may want to be insured for. It's always better to overestimate by a little for some allowance than to underestimate.



1) I see, yes am aware of that
2) Upgraded, Prudential PruShield Plan A Premier, no rider though

So, back to my main question, how do I calculate how much should I cover?
150k? 300k? 500k?
Or let's say I have around 400-500k HDB fully paid, with some more liquid assets cash/shares/FD around 100k, is that enough coverage for average singaporean?
 

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OK I suppose you are looking in terms of a source of replacement income for your future wife/children? If so, maybe you would like to do a calculation of how much you think your family will need to last them until they are independent should you no longer be able to support them with your income. Alternatively if you aren't able to estimate, a general guideline is to multiply your annual income by 8-10 times. Subtract that by your net assets (not including house of course as they will need somewhere to live!) and what your spouse is able to provide since she is working.

There's a rough estimate of how much you may want to be insured for. It's always better to overestimate by a little for some allowance than to underestimate.

Oh i see, so that's how I should calculate
thanks bro :D
 

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I got term insurance 1 mil coverage from Aviva during the promo (25%off - if I'm not mistaken). Thus, it was pretty cheap.
Back then was supposed to "settle down", the term insurance will act as safety net for future dependants in case I'm gone before they're able to support themselves financially.
Fast forward now, not planning to settle down anytime soon. Still glad that I managed to get a good price for a 1 million coverage.
 

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I got term insurance 1 mil coverage from Aviva during the promo (25%off - if I'm not mistaken). Thus, it was pretty cheap.
Back then was supposed to "settle down", the term insurance will act as safety net for future dependants in case I'm gone before they're able to support themselves financially.
Fast forward now, not planning to settle down anytime soon. Still glad that I managed to get a good price for a 1 million coverage.

Term insurance can double as a mortgage insurance that's not tied to a particular property. Always good to have it early
 

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Rem to account for housing protection scheme and dependent protection scheme
 
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