Is HDB balloting truly random ?

[1982-1994]

wa bro. becareful wait tio pofma sia

It is a known fact that applicants of GRO have the first priority upon balloting though they have limited choices of units

 

[standarture]

The fact that is already prioritised by seniors, families and couples....... is already not pure balloting lol.

 

[icebleue]

Unstable job or gig worker will have lower amount that can be taken for loan lor...

Nope. is reject application. you either fork out $200,000 in cash.. or you just rent a flat from them...

 

[3G SAINT]

tio = random
no tio = not random

HDB BTO Queue Numbers Are Assigned Randomly​

HDB has a few priority schemes to help increase your chances of getting a BTO queue number. However, BTO queue numbers are assigned randomly, so there is no ‘actual’ way to somehow get a better queue number.
What this means is that while you can double your chances of getting a BTO queue number, you can’t do anything to get ahead in the queue and pick first.

https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-guides/hdb-bto-ballot-chances-priority-schemes-31048

 

[3G SAINT]

or they do sort out certain criteria themselves but they announce it as randomly selected by computers.

Criteria like : income. job stability.

After all, HDB is afterall giving a housing loan right ? Really random then housing loan to a no job stability gig worker vs a full time employed worker with good salary. Chance of gig worker not being able to repay loan is much higher right ?


I mean really ? So much money involved, so many commitments involved over many years. "It`s random"

Up for discussion.

HOW TO INCREASE YOUR BTO BALLOT CHANCES IN 2024?​

Understanding all the priority schemes discussed below can help only enhance your chances of success in the computer ballot for a BTO flat. There are no hacks to increase your chances of getting a lower queue number.

The list of priority schemes includes:

Priority Scheme	HDB BTO Flat Allocation	Things to Note
First-timer applicant (NO other priority schemes)	10% (2-Room Flexi & 3-Room) 25% (4-Room & bigger)	Some non-mature estates (and flat types e.g. 5-room) can be pretty popular
Parenthood Priority Scheme (PPS)	30%	Having children should be pursued if you are financially or emotionally prepared for the responsibility involved
Multi-Generation Priority Scheme (MGPS)	Parents: Up to 15% of 2-room Flexi or 3-room flats Married child: Corresponding number of 2-room Flexi or larger flats	Selection is limited to preselected units distributed across various blocks, encompassing both high and low floors
Married Child Priority Scheme (MCPS)	Up to 30% of BTO units	During the construction of your BTO and for an additional period of 5 years until you reach the MOP, your parents are unable to relocate
Third Child Priority Scheme (TCPS)	Up to 5% of BTO units	Must have a minimum of 3 children who must reside with you in the new flat until you reach the MOP
Assistance Scheme for Second-Timers (ASSIST)	Up to 5% of BTO 2-room Flexi and 3-room units in non-mature estates, shared with the 30% quota set aside for second-timers	Divorced or widowed persons with children Only applicable if your child is 18 years and below
Tenants’ Priority Scheme (***)	Up to 10% of 2-room Flexi and 3-room BTO units	Living in an HDB public rental flat for at least two years
Seniors Priority Scheme (SPS)	Within the allocation of 2-room Flexi units specifically designated for elderly individuals, 40% of these units (with a min. req. of 100 units per BTO project) are reserved under SPS	Elderly applying for a BTO project within 4km of existing flats or parents/married child flats

HDB BTO BALLOT TIPS FOR ANY YOUNG SINGAPOREAN COUPLE OR FAMILY​

With these insider tips, you can navigate the BTO system effectively and stand a much better chance of securing your dream flat in Singapore.

https://dollarbackmortgage.com/blog/secure-bto-ballot-tips/

 

[prusswan.net]

Flip coin x times until u get head
Liddat considered random?

 

[TakKiu]

If you believed can go by back door, then yes is random.

 

[buttbERry]

post 25 quite informative

 

[FireEmblem]

The fact that is already prioritised by seniors, families and couples....... is already not pure balloting lol.

Err my understanding is that it is balloting within each group, so if example 50 out of 80 are for above group, then those people within the group see luck within the group, all the rest fight for the last 30.

It is not above group all get priority queue number first

 

[3G SAINT]

Flip coin x times until u get head
Liddat considered random?

Nw get house more and more tough

 

[drkcynic]

If you don't trust the system, everything is going to fall apart right?

So many things are balloted in SG. Flats, primary schools, ndp tickets etc.

 

[Euqorab]

It is random

 

[Prismatic]

It is pure balloting. Just that you are balloting for different groups of flats. Eg, if a BTO has 100 5R units, they will set aside 5% for 2nd timer so 95 units goes to 1st timers. If got 1000 1st timer and 1000 2nd timer applicants, the 1000 1st timer ballot for 95 units, while 1000 2nd timer ballot for 5 units.

If you are 1st timer with priority, you simply get more ballot chances. So in the end become more ballots for the 95 units, maybe say total 1200 ballots for the 95.

The fact that is already prioritised by seniors, families and couples....... is already not pure balloting lol.

 

[airman88]

The government has been talking about the “lottery effect” but ignoring the big elephant in the room which is the lucky draw aka balloting system!

 

[lampano]

another day another disgruntled who fail to get BTO number?

 

[ahnyaahnya]

HDB BTO Queue Numbers Are Assigned Randomly​

HDB has a few priority schemes to help increase your chances of getting a BTO queue number. However, BTO queue numbers are assigned randomly, so there is no ‘actual’ way to somehow get a better queue number.
What this means is that while you can double your chances of getting a BTO queue number, you can’t do anything to get ahead in the queue and pick first.

https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-guides/hdb-bto-ballot-chances-priority-schemes-31048

Like if Mr A buys 12 toto tickets, and B buys 1.
A has more chances of winning the big prize than B.
But ..... B may end up winning

 

[ahnyaahnya]

The government has been talking about the “lottery effect” but ignoring the big elephant in the room which is the lucky draw aka balloting system!

The lucky draw is precisely the lottery

 

[lampano]

wa bro. becareful wait tio pofma sia

its known theres a GRO scheme with priority.
but they will need to work/serve the community there

 

[wlalala]

some ppl got more priority than others

from all the ppl I know that got good queue numbers, all can be "explained"
Personally I know I'd get a decent queue number.

 

[3G SAINT]

Like if Mr A buys 12 toto tickets, and B buys 1.
A has more chances of winning the big prize than B.
But ..... B may end up winning

Like lucky draw
Like you go company DnD,if lucky tio top 10 prize