Is manual overclocking the PC worth the while?

[Apparatus]

I mean overclocking the

1) RTX4090 GPU
2) CPU
3) RAM

For GPU

All RTX4090 GPUs perform alike..............maybe some fps differences. Some GPUs allow 10% OC while others can give 30% OC but fps maybe difference by 5fps. 5fps difference in gaming is not noticeable.

For GPU without OC power consumption should be around 400W
With factory overclocked GPU power consumption can hit 500W
And if manual OC power consumption can reach a max of 600W

If manual overclocking only gives say a 2% performance increase with probably 5fps better, is it worthwhile the OC with 100W more of electricity bill, time spent and likely with instability issue? Also, note that current CPU/GPU are running so fast...............making OC not an attractive option. On top of that, you'll likely need a custom water cooling system and/or additional larger fans for max OC

Any comments?

How about Mo and RAM OC?

 

[shawntyq]

Normally I’ll try to undervolt my cpu and gpu to see the sweet spot. Increase performance not by much but decrease in temp quite few degrees.

 

[Phen8210]

Usually, people do undervolting or power limit because at stock it runs very hot during high loads.

 

[matique]

As an OCer, i can say that OCing is not worth the effort + time needed for a good OC in the first place.

OC GPU for better average/highs.
OC CPU/RAM for better lows.

Stock vs full OC for me is about 10-15% better average, 20-25% better lows. However I took several weeks to find the best stability for my OC, and substantial costs in WC to make sure temps are good. Defo not worth it for the performance, but it was covid back then and I was bored.

 

[Apparatus]

As an OCer, i can say that OCing is not worth the effort + time needed for a good OC in the first place.

OC GPU for better average/highs.
OC CPU/RAM for better lows.

Stock vs full OC for me is about 10-15% better average, 20-25% better lows. However I took several weeks to find the best stability for my OC, and substantial costs in WC to make sure temps are good. Defo not worth it for the performance, but it was covid back then and I was bored.

Sure, you'll get that kind of % difference comparing stock vs manual OC.

However, comparing different brands in manual OC you'll see probably no more than 5fps difference and that little system performance increase makes OC not worth the while.

 

[matique]

Sure, you'll get that kind of % difference comparing stock vs manual OC.

However, comparing different brands in manual OC you'll see probably no more than 5fps difference and that little system performance increase makes OC not worth the while.

What do you mean by brands...

 

[poooooo]

Maybe back in the Q6600 era

 

[Apparatus]

What do you mean by brands...

Like ASUS vs MSI

 

[elmariachi]

Sure, you'll get that kind of % difference comparing stock vs manual OC.

However, comparing different brands in manual OC you'll see probably no more than 5fps difference and that little system performance increase makes OC not worth the while.

For CPU +RAM, the meta now is people keep CPUs stock and play with memory at least for Intel platforms. It's the single biggest advantage especially in your minimum lows. Granted memory overclocking is complicated and takes time to find absolute stability, the gains are far greater than overclocking CPU which in modern times, are already maxed out of the box. Your thermals decide if you can push it another 10-15% more and that cost of keeping the CPU cooler is probably more significant than trying to overclock the rams which would give you more gains in games.

As for GPU between brands, it's more or less the same with top tier brands. None of them bin the GPUs so it's luck at the end of the day. Asus and MSI have great PCB with overkill power stages that allows you to overclock and sustain higher boost frequencies. If you're taking GPU OC difference, then to a large extent yes it does make a difference. Temps are also lower on top tier cards like Tuf/Strix and MSI SuprimX due to better thermal pads and a much more efficient cooler. Again, we are talking about less than 5-7% difference. The biggest difference is temps and noise on the better brand tier cards.

 

[Apparatus]

CPU OC is going to be a thing of the past.......................6GHz OOB without OC

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-...s-first-6-ghz-cpu-is-launching-in-early-2023/
Unless you go for DDR5 8000 MT/s RAM then OC CPU and RAM. 8000 MT/s looks like the max limit for DDR5 RAM

 

[elmariachi]

CPU OC is going to be a thing of the past.......................6GHz OOB without OC

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-...s-first-6-ghz-cpu-is-launching-in-early-2023/
Unless you go for DDR5 8000 MT/s RAM then OC CPU and RAM. 8000 MT/s looks like the max limit for DDR5 RAM

Depending on CPU IMC and board, DDR5 GEAR 2 limit for 13900k is around 8800Mhz. Maybe 9000mhz bench but not stable. Unless CPU architecture changes which allows higher frequency to work on gear 2, gear 4 will have to be used for anything past 9000mhz which essentially means your memory controller frequency works at 1/4 of your memory speed. Gear 2 up works up to 1/2 of your memory frequency.

So on gear 4, ddr5 has to be like maybe 15000Mhz to make any sense to run that. No one is even using this mode now as penalty is too high. Many are just running 7600-8000s and tightening latencies. It's the best option now.

 

[MrAwesomeX]

The power connector already melting @ stock.

You still wanna OC ?

What

 

[MrAwesomeX]

Maybe back in the Q6600 era

Good old days . 2nd hand Q6600 and Q8400 OC like to 3-4ghz on air cooler .

Nowadays like no point . Everything is pretty much optmised on stock already.

 

[NightRaven49]

Everything is pretty much optmised on stock already.

more like the hardware vendors already push the chips as hard as they can so that they can claim to be the fastest, leaving little room left for user oc. that's why especially for newer generations, there can be a lot of gains from uv as the chips have been pushed way past their efficiency zone.

 

[Psychedelic Senses]

The power connector already melting @ stock.

You still wanna OC ?

What

What. I think you should come out of your cave already because the issue with 'melting connectors' is more or less resolved weeks ago. It's due to user error with people not plugging it in all the way/pulled at an angle.

 

[Phen8210]

more like the hardware vendors already push the chips as hard as they can so that they can claim to be the fastest, leaving little room left for user oc. that's why especially for newer generations, there can be a lot of gains from uv as the chips have been pushed way past their efficiency zone.

yeah, now efficiency is secondary already

 

[MrAwesomeX]

What. I think you should come out of your cave already because the issue with 'melting connectors' is more or less resolved weeks ago. It's due to user error with people not plugging it in all the way/pulled at an angle.

Sure whatever Nvidia says . Why would they lie right? I never heard of 3090 melting though but hey I am in a hwz cave what would I know.

Guess 4090 users must be pretty reckless builders huh?

 

[Psychedelic Senses]

Sure whatever Nvidia says . Why would they lie right? I never heard of 3090 melting though .

Guess 4090 users might be reckless builders huh?

sureeeeeee man if the problem was the connector you would see people with 4090s here complaining about their connectors melting right? or you're so anti nvidia until you lost your ability to think properly lol

 

[matique]

Sure whatever Nvidia says . Why would they lie right? I never heard of 3090 melting though but hey I am in a hwz cave what would I know.

Guess 4090 users must be pretty reckless builders huh?

Users having melted connectors is a skill issue :/ me and others with 4090s have totally fine connectors.

 

[shawntyq]

Sorry were the connectors v tough to fit in? Just curious