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[garpew]

Nice guess, your right. have been holding back for quite some time now and accumulating the funds to do it. Since I will definitely take the plunge sooner or later, decided to do it now and have a taste what the rage is all about with CIEM.

jumping in directly to a 8 driver custom is very bold

 

[hotwirenissanskyline]

jumping in directly to a 8 driver custom is very bold

8A is going to by my first ciem too but I wouldn't call it a bold move

More of a wise choice if you ask me, since you minimize on the amount wasted if you were to purchase a lower end product and end up having to sell it at a discounted price only to upgrade to something which you originally wanted but didn't come to own.
Moving onto a flagship model directly(if it matches what you are looking for) is better since there is almost nothing else better or comparable being offered from that company or brand at the moment. Assuming you have compared and rejected the various other models from other companies as well.
If you do not like it after the purchase due to various reasons, chances are you may not like other products from that particular company or brand.

But of course, sound signature of the various models may differ and this is assuming you have done your research before committing.

 

[Leo888]

8A is going to by my first ciem too but I wouldn't call it a bold move

More of a wise choice if you ask me, since you minimize on the amount wasted if you were to purchase a lower end product and end up having to sell it at a discounted price only to upgrade to something which you originally wanted but didn't come to own.
Moving onto a flagship model directly(if it matches what you are looking for) is better since there is almost nothing else better or comparable at the moment. If you do not like it due to various reasons, chances are you may not like other products from that particular company or brand.

But of course, sound signature of the various models may differ and this is assuming you have done your research before committing.

Have to agree with you and that is also exactly how i felt also.

 

[garpew]

depends on how you look at it. jumping on the CIEM bandwagon might be a moment of impulse, starting small will give you a better chance of exploring the difference with a universal fit and CIEM. if you decided that the CIEM hype is overrated, you end up with a very expensive toy which you would probably would not be using often

 

[racoiaw]

Will check it up. Anyway, how much did you get it for including the shipping to Singapore? Can provide me the link?
Thanks

Amazon shipping is exp. The total comes to about 360. U can just search amazon for cowon j3 32gv. I suggest using 3rd party to ship back to Singapore as it should be slightly cheaper.

 

[x3dnd3x]

Most probably the Heir Audio 8.A but need to do some more reading to find a matchiing DAP. Any idea where can I demo the DX100 bcos Stereo don't carry it.

One of the bros here have and he's allowing audition of his newly purchased DX100 . Drop him a PM .

What's your rig currently ?

 

[racoiaw]

depends on how you look at it. jumping on the CIEM bandwagon might be a moment of impulse, starting small will give you a better chance of exploring the difference with a universal fit and CIEM. if you decided that the CIEM hype is overrated, you end up with a very expensive toy which you would probably would not be using often

you have a point. But having gone through the whole process myself and finally deciding on getting a heir 8.A myself, its actually much cheaper to just jump straight into it. but then again, I feel that u guys should start from a second hand or mid entry ciem first to see if they suit you. Unless you are absolutely sure you wan to commit as resale value vary for a top tier ciem

 

[Haonan]

Nice guess, your right. have been holding back for quite some time now and accumulating the funds to do it. Since I will definitely take the plunge sooner or later, decided to do it now and have a taste what the rage is all about with CIEM.

Whoa, first CIEM purchase and diving in straight for the HA 8.As already, thats quite a big gamble imo. I'm kinda curious, what top-tier universal IEMs you have owned so far previously, thats makes you so unsatisfied with them that you wanna jump straight for a flagship CIEM model right nw? Correct me if I'm wrong, but w/o understanding Heir Audio's sound sig since you can't demo them here in SG, hw would u know the 8.A's sound sig would be suitable/fitting for yr own listening preferences?

IMO, I would agree wholeheartedly with what garpew has mentioned earlier, starting small with mid-entry or top-tier universals would prolly let you understands whats the kind of sound sig you are after, and when the time comes when you feel its time to upgrade, you can always make the jump agn later by selling off yr universal monitors. I also believed I have mentioned this in one of the threads previously over at the Headphone/IEM section, but in rgds to CIEMs they do not actually precede in terms of SQ performance in all area aspects, against most top-tier universal monitors on the market and according to some fellow forumers who had owned CIEMs they agreed with my sentiments, though I still have to emphasize as we all do hear things differently due to our unique ear anatomy/distortions found in each individuals, it may not apply to everyone here.

IMO would suggest that you give the thread below a serious read with an open heart, and nt just lurk ard those CIEM appreciation threads found on Head-fi, as there are usually quite a fair amount of shilling/overhyping of verbal stuff gg ard on such threads, and may not provide new CIEM buyers with a balanced insight into the world of CIEMs.

Personally, I do share alot of the same views/opinions made by Head-fier music_4321 regarding the CIEM topic as discussed on that discussion thread. 2-3 yrs back theres absolutely lotsa gd reasons to jump onboard to CIEM, cos they easily provide owners with removable cable options with excellent SQ and comes with decent isolation.

But today's situation in the real world is alot different compared to last time, most top-tier universal IEMs also come with removable cable options with increased durability, also at the same time offering excellent SQ with great isolation (although this is also subjective and debatable). In fact in terms of isolation, according to some of the local feedback by local owners here, CIEM does not necessarily provide the end-user with top notch isolation, prolly only at most 20%-30% more isolation factor than universals IEMs thats all.

Are (High-end) Custom IEMs Overrated?

P.S: I dont own customs myself, but having tried the demo units in local stores here and having owned quite a few top tier universals for awhile nw since I was into this hobby since 2005, I can say universal monitors have really progressed/advanced alot compared to the old days, that negates alot of requirements or purpose for having a CIEM. Also more drivers in an IEM doesnt always mean is better, what matters more is the cross-over implementation for the multi drivers and yr preferred sound sig you are seeking for.

Just sharing some of my own views rgding this matter hope no offense taken frm those CIEM owners ard here, but all that being said, if you do have the money and you prefer to have custom artwork on yr housing shells, I say why not? I think later this yr I also probably jumping ship liao, possibly gonna try out japanese company CanalWorks's CIEM.

 

[Leo888]

Thanks Haonan,garpew and kAzeSan for the concern regarding my decision with the 8.A, appreciate that. Rest assured it's not an impulse buy but more of a combination of factors and the fact that my right ear for some reason, can never maintain a proper seal no matter which phone or tips i used which is frustrating. Decided on the 8.A bcos it seems to have the signature I'll like base on cross references from the general comments and demoing universal custom available here. Phones i owned now are SE535,SE215, FXT90, M50 and HD650 which more or less geared towards a warm signature if that helps. Would have taken up the FX700 and EX1000 if not for the fit issue.
General comments are more reliable in my opinion as it reflects what was heard and felt at that moment without prejudice.
As to whether it's a hit or miss, can't really know until one owns it. With the owner transfer policy from Heir, I'm quite comfortable knowing that the loss if it's a miss wouldn't be that bad. Compare to asking myself what I'm missing (lower tier models) if it's a hit would be daunting.
Hope I'm not going off thread here since it's a J3 user thread but would like to say thank you guys for the great help and comments put forward to me.

 

[Haonan]

@Leo888: No worries there bro, you are definitely welcomed. Hope yr upcoming 8.As will be a smooth journey for you, towards greater audio nirvana and enjoyment.

 

[x3dnd3x]

Thanks Haonan,garpew and kAzeSan for the concern regarding my decision with the 8.A, appreciate that. Rest assured it's not an impulse buy but more of a combination of factors and the fact that my right ear for some reason, can never maintain a proper seal no matter which phone or tips i used which is frustrating. Decided on the 8.A bcos it seems to have the signature I'll like base on cross references from the general comments and demoing universal custom available here. Phones i owned now are SE535,SE215, FXT90, M50 and HD650 which more or less geared towards a warm signature if that helps. Would have taken up the FX700 and EX1000 if not for the fit issue.
General comments are more reliable in my opinion as it reflects what was heard and felt at that moment without prejudice.
As to whether it's a hit or miss, can't really know until one owns it. With the owner transfer policy from Heir, I'm quite comfortable knowing that the loss if it's a miss wouldn't be that bad. Compare to asking myself what I'm missing (lower tier models) if it's a hit would be daunting.
Hope I'm not going off thread here since it's a J3 user thread but would like to say thank you guys for the great help and comments put forward to me.

So sorry for your wallet .

 

[Leo888]

So sorry for your wallet .

I know, as I said before. My wallet is undergoing a slimming program. haha

 

[Weaboo]

anyone noes if funan gotch sell? if so by how much?

 

[kAzeSan]

Thanks Haonan,garpew and kAzeSan for the concern regarding my decision with the 8.A, appreciate that. Rest assured it's not an impulse buy but more of a combination of factors and the fact that my right ear for some reason, can never maintain a proper seal no matter which phone or tips i used which is frustrating. Decided on the 8.A bcos it seems to have the signature I'll like base on cross references from the general comments and demoing universal custom available here. Phones i owned now are SE535,SE215, FXT90, M50 and HD650 which more or less geared towards a warm signature if that helps. Would have taken up the FX700 and EX1000 if not for the fit issue.
General comments are more reliable in my opinion as it reflects what was heard and felt at that moment without prejudice.
As to whether it's a hit or miss, can't really know until one owns it. With the owner transfer policy from Heir, I'm quite comfortable knowing that the loss if it's a miss wouldn't be that bad. Compare to asking myself what I'm missing (lower tier models) if it's a hit would be daunting.
Hope I'm not going off thread here since it's a J3 user thread but would like to say thank you guys for the great help and comments put forward to me.

I myself jumped into the HA CIEM bandwagon after I bought UE700. I can't seem to find an universal that meet my needs after trying several high tiers, always feel that something is lacking.

Alright back to J3, if local warranty isn't an issue here, then get it from overseas. If possible, Korea. That would be the cheapest, followed by Amazon.

 

[x3dnd3x]

I know, as I said before. My wallet is undergoing a slimming program. haha

Total damage $2k or more ?

 

[Leo888]

Total damage $2k or more ?

Hi x3dnd3x, going to place my order once i get a working printer bcos I need to print out the order confirmation form ship to out with the impression.

I think the damage will be around +/-$1.7k for the CIEM and looking out for a DAP to replace my Iphone4 as the primary music source.

I like to travel lite and don't think that I will amped it and the J3 is on my list but taking some time to see if there is other alternatives.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

 

[x3dnd3x]

Hi x3dnd3x, going to place my order once i get a working printer bcos I need to print out the order confirmation form ship to out with the impression.

I think the damage will be around +/-$1.7k for the CIEM and looking out for a DAP to replace my Iphone4 as the primary music source.

I like to travel lite and don't think that I will amped it and the J3 is on my list but taking some time to see if there is other alternatives.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

You wanna travel light then go with Clip+ loh . Its one of the smallest already .

I would say J3 with CIEM is light enough imo .

 

[garpew]

J3 is about the weight as a regular smartphone, should be lite enough i think?

 

[Leo888]

You wanna travel light then go with Clip+ loh . Its one of the smallest already .

I would say J3 with CIEM is light enough imo .

Hi x3dnd3x and garpew, have heard the J3 before and based on the price/performance ratio, I will have to say it's quite a good option. For now, it's one of the top choices in my shortlist.

 

[racoiaw]

I will be using my 8.A with j3. Waited 1 month for my 8.A liao