jogging and motivation thread

[Whispers]

all the runners here dedicated

friend jio me join safra running club, i see the training...a bit daunting

wish me luck man

 

[Ender]

all the runners here dedicated

friend jio me join safra running club, i see the training...a bit daunting

wish me luck man

SAFRA running club is really can join one. I know people from the Punggol branch, the trainers there are good. Not too sure about other branch, but they should all have similar competent trainers there too.

 

[Whispers]

zone 2 training is really quite difficult to keep to, even without ego

the pace is slow. very constrained running, but not so slow or chill that can walk, and yet not fast enough to really consider it a jog. the legs and shoulders actually will tire out at this pace. this is my experience after keeping to it for a month. relying on apple watch.

 

[xllms]

zone 2 training is really quite difficult to keep to, even without ego

the pace is slow. very constrained running, but not so slow or chill that can walk, and yet not fast enough to really consider it a jog. the legs and shoulders actually will tire out at this pace. this is my experience after keeping to it for a month. relying on apple watch.

it is at the initial part, after a while, once used to it, it isn't too bad, but keeping within zone 2 can be quite a challenge. Needs lots of discipline and constant checking on the HR.

 

[SpeedingBullet]

Z2 the initial part is very very hard, probably months or even years of training, but once u have very good fitness and your zone 2 expands, it becomes highly enjoyable.

Any1 did lab testing for Z2?

 

[Ender]

Just nice, this video release a day ago about improvement with zone 2, measured as scientific as she can.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

My HOKA Bondis finally giving way, 20km away from 1000km mark. Bought some new Elevons, tried them really comfy. any other ride-or-die HOKA fans here? beefcake bois

For HOKA I only have the Hoka Rocket X 2. That time bought on offer for AHM, $260. Not really a pair of trainers but can lah.....just run. In conjunction with their HOKA dry-fit T-shirt, $50. The T-shirt pretty good too, really very easy to evaporate, you make it wet on a hot/dry day and let the wind blow through coz the mini perforations are there.....can feel the cool wind.
Among all the dry fit stuff, this one really dries the fastest (ie max evaporative cooling).

I make it totally wet on a hot/dry day, i cycled @ 4.30pm on the rail corridor, still can make it. Can really feel the cool wind.

 

[raylong]

My HOKA Bondis finally giving way, 20km away from 1000km mark. Bought some new Elevons, tried them really comfy. any other ride-or-die HOKA fans here? beefcake bois

You run until 1000km not painful ah? Me all shoe typical last 420km.

 

[SpeedingBullet]

For HOKA I only have the Hoka Rocket X 2. That time bought on offer for AHM, $260. Not really a pair of trainers but can lah.....just run. In conjunction with their HOKA dry-fit T-shirt, $50. The T-shirt pretty good too, really very easy to evaporate, you make it wet on a hot/dry day and let the wind blow through coz the mini perforations are there.....can feel the cool wind.
Among all the dry fit stuff, this one really dries the fastest (ie max evaporative cooling).

I make it totally wet on a hot/dry day, i cycled @ 4.30pm on the rail corridor, still can make it. Can really feel the cool wind.

ooo i nv tried the Rockets before

usually dry fit shirts i go Decathlon liao, gave up lol. My concern is more on chafing, becomes a problem when i run more than 1.5 hrs.

You run until 1000km not painful ah? Me all shoe typical last 420km.

it started to hurt my knee a little, then i checked mileage, saw it was at 900km++.

my alert usually is at 1000km, not one shoe could last till then, this is one of the furthest, most others 700km gone liao. The other close one was Hoka's Arahi 6, reached 880km.

 

[Ender]

For HOKA I only have the Hoka Rocket X 2. That time bought on offer for AHM, $260. Not really a pair of trainers but can lah.....just run. In conjunction with their HOKA dry-fit T-shirt, $50. The T-shirt pretty good too, really very easy to evaporate, you make it wet on a hot/dry day and let the wind blow through coz the mini perforations are there.....can feel the cool wind.
Among all the dry fit stuff, this one really dries the fastest (ie max evaporative cooling).

I make it totally wet on a hot/dry day, i cycled @ 4.30pm on the rail corridor, still can make it. Can really feel the cool wind.

Wetting method only works if it dries up. These few night humidity is terrible, where I have wash my shoes for every run. The saturate singlet refuse to dry, weight down and trap more heat instead as the gaps are blocked. Lucky the ventilated hole part doesn't hold the sweat.
Morning time still ok, may dry up because of the sun.

 

[Ender]

Have two Hoka Rincon 3 and the 1st gen of Rocket X. They are quite neglected. No joy in them for running.,

 

[Irenicus91]

zone 2 training is really quite difficult to keep to, even without ego

the pace is slow. very constrained running, but not so slow or chill that can walk, and yet not fast enough to really consider it a jog. the legs and shoulders actually will tire out at this pace. this is my experience after keeping to it for a month. relying on apple watch.

Yeah I understand what you mean, its even harder in SG weather.

But I've been doing it since start of Feb this year, now can jog around 50mins in Z2 liao.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Wetting method only works if it dries up. These few night humidity is terrible, where I have wash my shoes for every run. The saturate singlet refuse to dry, weight down and trap more heat instead as the gaps are blocked. Lucky the ventilated hole part doesn't hold the sweat.
Morning time still ok, may dry up because of the sun.

Yes......wetting with plain water (eg from your water bottle / soft flask) is for hot drier afternoons. Esp for cycling.
The cooling is crazy good, actually if you touch the material it feels cold, probably around 22-23 deg C or so, slightly above the dew point temperature during that afternoon. So that 22-23 deg C can really wick a lot of heat from your body.

For running, if early morning or nights, you'd need iced slushies / cubes or at least iced water. How to manage that so that this "aid station" can be applied every 10-15 mins, you need to plan your route around it liao.
For me no issue for my area and also cycling. If yours is stadium track then no biggie also, every 400m also can pour lagi best. You just need like many paper cups and like 2 x 1.5L iced slushie.
This is how i have been attempting my "TTs" since Sep 2023, after i overheated while attempting a 10K TT at the 7-8k mark at around 7pm.

I guess some might see this as "cheating", but i just do it for fun lah. Im not that type of pax who feel that real men shd go gun in 40 deg C heat index temps then only can say "i am a real runner". heh...

Actually every single damn working day i also run during day time, once at 12 noon and once at 1.30pm. 2 times 1.1km.
230 working days x 2.2 = 506km. So bloody hot that if it's an esp warm day, i take a quick shower at home basically quick soaping the armpits and top of the back and chest area before returning office coz i'd smell. If it rains then ok, cooler. Many days when i reach office, i just head straight into the server room to cool down in front of the chiller. (so far never fell sick)

Anyway i'd hereby wanna thank my coy and boss that i can wear casual, so dry fit and running shoes (now is Puma Deviate Nitro 2) all the way.

 

[WussRedXLi]

z2 for me is walking pace

 

[Jeremy1]

I think if they're here in Singapore, maybe they will think twice

 

[Ender]

I think if they're here in Singapore, maybe they will think twice

That's why we have many evening runners here. This running thread started out as a Evening Jogger thread btw.

 

[Jeremy1]

If let me run in their country spring or autumn time, I think I also can run at a much better pace.

I need Aircon to run

 

[xllms]

20240514 19degC xtep 160x5.0
6.13km @ 5'40"av (34'44") HR 164av 170max
7.57km @ 7'24"av (56'00") HR 147av 160max

 

[WussRedXLi]

Creatine.

Just wanna ask if you have some GI issues like bloating or stomach/intestines churning after taking creatine.
And what is your daily dose? (eg loading phase daily 2 x 5 grams or even 4 x 5 grams, or just normal 1 x 3-5 grams).

I know for things Magnesium Citrate, i have a bit of stomac and intestines churning, that's why i change to Mg Glycinate which is much better. And such churning and kee lee kuu luu extending after 10 to midnight is very detrimental to sleep....end up recovery is screwed.