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WussRedXLi

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Tried to do my first run of the year yesterday.

I have a pain that radiates from the left side on the shin , slightly below the knee cap.
Not too sure if its my running posture , will go back to my gel kayano and try again .

Bro, say you are a decent cyclist and on WCH say you can clock below 8 mins for 5k (ie chevron to chevron between Vivo and Clementi exclude the climb and descent) or basically maintain avg > 37.5kmh solo.

But now first run of the year (now is already close to Dec) that means bare min 11 months never ran.
Your running musclature sure gone. It could be anything from hamstrings to anterior tib to even adductor pain with the 3 major adductors.
Even with just 3-4km at relatively slow paces of 5-6min/km also might cause issues.

You lucky no big injury like to the tendons or fascia coz you probably did not push the distance too much.

No wonder you previously asked how to solve shin splint pain.

Is not coz of strengthening, but coz of too much too soon. Both are not directly comparable other than the aerobic aspect.
 

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As in, cyclist jump straight into running be it intense and/or volume without progression, the quads/glutes usually no pain.

Pain is probably the hamstrings, adductors (groin), and anterior tibialist or calves. For fascia is PF that is possible, and of coz the achilles (tendon).

If bones not strong enough, possibly might cause a bit pain here and there, like metatarsals (bones bt ankle and toes)
 

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Since late sept. I started my 1st run with. 5km , then increase 1km every time for the next run . Up till 13 km during mid oct ..I went to Japan for vacation for 1 week plus ..came back and restarted again . But increase more each time. 10km , 11km , 13km ,15 km and finally 21km on last friday.

Overall it took me more than 6 weeks plus to get back a sub 2 HM after injury .
Great. Steady progress, no rush. Legendary Coach, Jack Daniel on this topic, don't rush to get back in shape by working extra hard.

 

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Interesting......... zhun or not i am not sure, not pro in this.
But i came across various vids on medical/scientific experts (professors etc) stating that at most cancers are 55% genetic. Rest is epigenetics, environment.....


Yes, the scientific community increasingly views cancer as a metabolic disease, not solely a genetic one. While cancer involves genetic mutations, this view suggests that a primary disturbance in cellular energy metabolism, particularly in the mitochondria, is the root cause. Cancer cells rewire their metabolism to fuel their growth by creating new energy production pathways to meet the high demands of continuous cell division.

How cancer is a metabolic disease
  • Primary metabolic disturbance:
    Emerging evidence points to a disturbance in energy metabolism as the initial event in cancer development, with genetic mutations being a downstream consequence.

    • Mitochondrial dysfunction:
      Abnormalities in the structure and function of mitochondria are linked to these initial metabolic disturbances.
    • Warburg effect:
      Cancer cells rely on fermentation to produce energy, even in the presence of oxygen, a process known as the Warburg effect. This is a primitive energy source that creates lactic acid and is less efficient than oxidative phosphorylation but provides building blocks for rapid growth.
    • Fueling growth:
      This dysregulated metabolism provides the necessary energy and building blocks for the high demands of continuous cell growth and division.
    • Genetic mutations as a consequence:
      The prolonged reliance on these inefficient metabolic pathways can lead to genome instability and the mutations that are characteristic of cancer.

Bonus (SG data)

T23Dj2B.jpg
 
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Sharing also...... degree of zhuness i not sure. But my belief in this is like 60-70% he is zhun and there is a fair bit of truth to it.


 

WussRedXLi

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Interesting......... zhun or not i am not sure, not pro in this.
But i came across various vids on medical/scientific experts (professors etc) stating that at most cancers are 55% genetic. Rest is epigenetics, environment.....


Yes, the scientific community increasingly views cancer as a metabolic disease, not solely a genetic one. While cancer involves genetic mutations, this view suggests that a primary disturbance in cellular energy metabolism, particularly in the mitochondria, is the root cause. Cancer cells rewire their metabolism to fuel their growth by creating new energy production pathways to meet the high demands of continuous cell division.

How cancer is a metabolic disease
  • Primary metabolic disturbance:
    Emerging evidence points to a disturbance in energy metabolism as the initial event in cancer development, with genetic mutations being a downstream consequence.

    • Mitochondrial dysfunction:
      Abnormalities in the structure and function of mitochondria are linked to these initial metabolic disturbances.
    • Warburg effect:
      Cancer cells rely on fermentation to produce energy, even in the presence of oxygen, a process known as the Warburg effect. This is a primitive energy source that creates lactic acid and is less efficient than oxidative phosphorylation but provides building blocks for rapid growth.
    • Fueling growth:
      This dysregulated metabolism provides the necessary energy and building blocks for the high demands of continuous cell growth and division.
    • Genetic mutations as a consequence:
      The prolonged reliance on these inefficient metabolic pathways can lead to genome instability and the mutations that are characteristic of cancer.

Bonus (SG data)

T23Dj2B.jpg

BTW, anybody here does prostate cancer screening. Can gai siao?
Blood tumor markers (eg PSA) specific to prostate ok or not, not sure if it is sensitive or specific enough.

Serious question.... :frown: 😓

I think i might have enlarged prostate, maybe not a lot but i think beginning. Bo bian, age 50+ is like that. My coy also got a few, you will know in the toilet (middle agers here would know)

Not sure if the 12.5mg zinc nearly daily help in the long term (but not overdosing). The food aspect with regards to zinc i think can forget it...... hawker food where to find much zinc.
 

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Bro, say you are a decent cyclist and on WCH say you can clock below 8 mins for 5k (ie chevron to chevron between Vivo and Clementi exclude the climb and descent) or basically maintain avg > 37.5kmh solo.

But now first run of the year (now is already close to Dec) that means bare min 11 months never ran.
Your running musclature sure gone. It could be anything from hamstrings to anterior tib to even adductor pain with the 3 major adductors.
Even with just 3-4km at relatively slow paces of 5-6min/km also might cause issues.

You lucky no big injury like to the tendons or fascia coz you probably did not push the distance too much.

No wonder you previously asked how to solve shin splint pain.

Is not coz of strengthening, but coz of too much too soon. Both are not directly comparable other than the aerobic aspect.
i think is just weak ankle and hip flexors. but is okay la . if got severe pain i stop
 

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i think is just weak ankle and hip flexors. but is okay la . if got severe pain i stop

Possible also, basically just "weak" in some specific areas for the running intensity/volume.
But even wo strengthening, just slowly do........no issue one lah, esp if not 10k or HM.

Just slowly build it up specifically. I remember last time n 2023 i was able to do like what......19 mins ++ for 5k, but i got my first cheap foldie, i tot i could keep up with roadies based on fitness alone. Hahah...... sorry, not happening even i was panting already and they still chatting nicely. No power at all esp evident in the climbs where i was smoked in 2 instances.

Prob just some specific muscles that are not adapted for efficiency specific to that sport.
"Range of motion" also might play a part (running / cycling are more like partial reps)
 

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Hi all runners, I had 1 size XL Singlet from Garmin Run last year n 1 size L Singlet SCM from last year to give away.

Both are new in plastic bag as I don't wear Singlet.

Pleaae pm me if interested and I can meet up and pass it to you.

First come first serve, thanks.
 

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BTW, anybody here does prostate cancer screening. Can gai siao?
Blood tumor markers (eg PSA) specific to prostate ok or not, not sure if it is sensitive or specific enough.
Serious question....
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I think i might have enlarged prostate, maybe not a lot but i think beginning. Bo bian, age 50+ is like that. My coy also got a few, you will know in the toilet (middle agers here would know)
Not sure if the 12.5mg zinc nearly daily help in the long term (but not overdosing). The food aspect with regards to zinc i think can forget it...... hawker food where to find much zinc.
U want natural zinc which is convenient to find ah? Cook and eat dried oysters. It's higher zinc than fresh oysters. Also note that u can try taking zinc supplement standalone. Coz other minerals will compete absorption with it. Spread them out if u taking a few types of minerals.
 
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