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Actually I don't know what I wanna be in future so I choose business as it's general and most of the job is relevant to business. :(

imo even more you should stick to local dip. no degree still can find job one, just that lower pay. no local diploma is even harder to get job. hiring manager see pte degree can understand cause local uni very hard to get in. but see pte diploma, sg got 5 polys, ites and jcs, got so hard to get in meh? that's how i think la hahaha.
 

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even if you have set ur mind to go private, at least settle for SIM. but you must know 95% of the student population in SIM has local poly dip or A level, the rest is the in-house SIM dip which is an intensive 18-mth course (study 6 days a week) with no holiday.

Hahahaha. What 18 months 6 days a week diploma course? More like 8 months 2 days a week nia. Check up SIM website. You are giving pte dip too much credit here.
 

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Anyway ts, stick to local poly. If want to boost uni application, be active in CCA and community work. Your education in local poly will give you a strong foundation be it for work or for further studies.

And don't forget if you go pte uni, most of your peers will grad and apply for job with a degree AND a poly diploma. Same pay, you think who will employer hire?
 

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IF you do have that level of commitment to your final goal, by all means go for the shortest route.

just share an example with you, my friend knew he wanted to be an accountant when he was young, so he did not go to poly/JC after O level, instead he went for the shortest route which is 1 year CAT + 3 years ACCA and factoring in 2 years NS, he managed to reduce the gaps with the girls and was a senior consultant when his peers just graduated from local uni.
 

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Hahahaha. What 18 months 6 days a week diploma course? More like 8 months 2 days a week nia. Check up SIM website. You are giving pte dip too much credit here.

eh dun get me wrong, im not advocating anyone who can go local poly to take the sim dip but im not wrong, and thats what a friend who took the course told me.

"18-month full-time programme covers 18 modules

3 semesters. Each semester is a period of six months

Lecturers six times a week from Mondays to Saturdays"

Diploma - Full-Time Diploma in Accounting by SIM
Diploma - Full-Time Diploma in Management Studies by SIM University
 
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eh dun get me wrong, im not advocating anyone who can go local poly to take the sim dip but im not wrong, and thats what a friend who took the course told me.

"18-month full-time programme covers 18 modules

3 semesters. Each semester is a period of six months

Lecturers six times a week from Mondays to Saturdays"

Diploma - Full-Time Diploma in Accounting by SIM
Diploma - Full-Time Diploma in Management Studies by SIM University

I see I see. I mixed that up with dip from other pei.
 

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Hi I'm a current temasek polytechnic year 1 student, just completed my first semester and have a GPA of 3.1. I think it's kinda impossible for me to enter local uni like Nus, SMU and so on except SIT. I am thinking of going to a private institute like kaplan as they offer a faster path to get my degree. 8 months diploma and 18 months bachelor. I am thinking of getting bachelor of science (honours) in management with international business from royal holloway, university of London.

As I'm taking a business course in temasek poly, I think it's alright to transfer to private as business course is quite commonly offered by private institute unlike applied science or engineer course. What would you all recommend or suggest?

Hi,

I'm currently in the RHUL program, did my diploma at Kaplan too so I hope my suggestion is useful and relevant to u.

I used to have the stigma that pte programs are useless, both dip and deg. After a few years of work, through what I see and people I personally know, my opinion changed. It's true that compared to a poly dip, private dip is relatively useless. I tried, I know. But that's not the point is it? The end goal is a degree or higher. Let's compare the two paths.

Poly takes 3 years after that another 3 for degree. If u get exemptions then 2 years. Time taken for degree will be 5 years fastest.

Kaplan dip takes 8 mths, another 18 mths for degree. Factor in waiting time of 3-6 mths between dip and degree and the time taken for degree is 3 years or less.

There is difference of 2 years. U can use that time to gain work experience or to go for masters at a local or overseas uni. In 5 years time, u will have either a masters or 2 years of work experience over your peers. That's the advantage of going the Kaplan path.

Why then should u go for local uni?

Consider 3 main factors:

First is where do u wanna work, private sector doesn't make a difference but for government sector, only local uni will make the cut.

Second. U get subsidies for local uni.

Third. The undergrad experience is once a lifetime. Helps networking. The curriculum is much broader too.

But let's face it. Places for local uni is tough to get and it better stays that way. Drop the standards, open the floodgates and rest assure the law of supply and demand dictates that the value of local deg will drop down the road.

Truth is, lots of poly grads eventually pursue a pte deg. SIT? Engineering. You're doing business.

Good luck in your choice!
 

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Hi,

I'm currently in the RHUL program, did my diploma at Kaplan too so I hope my suggestion is useful and relevant to u.

I used to have the stigma that pte programs are useless, both dip and deg. After a few years of work, through what I see and people I personally know, my opinion changed. It's true that compared to a poly dip, private dip is relatively useless. I tried, I know. But that's not the point is it? The end goal is a degree or higher. Let's compare the two paths.

Poly takes 3 years after that another 3 for degree. If u get exemptions then 2 years. Time taken for degree will be 5 years fastest.

Kaplan dip takes 8 mths, another 18 mths for degree. Factor in waiting time of 3-6 mths between dip and degree and the time taken for degree is 3 years or less.

There is difference of 2 years. U can use that time to gain work experience or to go for masters at a local or overseas uni. In 5 years time, u will have either a masters or 2 years of work experience over your peers. That's the advantage of going the Kaplan path.

Why then should u go for local uni?

Consider 3 main factors:

First is where do u wanna work, private sector doesn't make a difference but for government sector, only local uni will make the cut.

Second. U get subsidies for local uni.

Third. The undergrad experience is once a lifetime. Helps networking. The curriculum is much broader too.

But let's face it. Places for local uni is tough to get and it better stays that way. Drop the standards, open the floodgates and rest assure the law of supply and demand dictates that the value of local deg will drop down the road.

Truth is, lots of poly grads eventually pursue a pte deg. SIT? Engineering. You're doing business.

Good luck in your choice!

But the degree you're taking, the cert is the same as on campus. Some say its not... :( have you graduate from the degree already?
 

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But the degree you're taking, the cert is the same as on campus. Some say its not... :( have you graduate from the degree already?

RHUL is not the same as UOL. If that is what you meant. The last time I checked it is the same cert unless the consultant was bs-ing me. The good thing about RHUL is that they have videos of tutorials online and UK lecturers will come down for workshops.
 

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Yup... It's the same as on campus but one can tell from the transcript also so there's nothing to hide anyway.
 

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if you are doing DL, its never the same as on campus. if employers are not sure, they will ask you. pls dun lie cos if you do, you are going to use more lies to cover your lies in the future.

i did DL (SIM) and i got my first job even though there were many candidates from other unis. study hard, be proud of your degree, know how to sell yourself and do your best in your job if you get selected.
 

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finish local poly and get prv degree, at least something local to fall back on when prv degree cant get you any job.
 

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Yup... It's the same as on campus but one can tell from the transcript also so there's nothing to hide anyway.

But in future when I go for interview, I no need to show the transcript right? Only the cert can already ma. So as long as the cert is the same as on campus, it's good already. I'm really thinking of it. :(
 

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RHUL is not the same as UOL. If that is what you meant. The last time I checked it is the same cert unless the consultant was bs-ing me. The good thing about RHUL is that they have videos of tutorials online and UK lecturers will come down for workshops.

Yea that's what I'm worry too.. Like after I study there for the cert then the cert is not the same as on campus like wasted.
 
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But in future when I go for interview, I no need to show the transcript right? Only the cert can already ma. So as long as the cert is the same as on campus, it's good already. I'm really thinking of it. :(

You do know HR conducts random checks on the authenticity on each job applicant’s qualifications before hiring? If they found out that you are withholding information, what are the chances of you getting into their company?

Anyway regardless of what the other posters have advised you, it seems that your mind is set. I wish you good luck.
 

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But in future when I go for interview, I no need to show the transcript right? Only the cert can already ma. So as long as the cert is the same as on campus, it's good already. I'm really thinking of it. :(

They will ask you overseas living, etc. And if the HR person studied in the same country and ask you to share your experience, how are you going to reply? Are you still going to imply that you studied on-campus?
 

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But in future when I go for interview, I no need to show the transcript right? Only the cert can already ma. So as long as the cert is the same as on campus, it's good already. I'm really thinking of it. :(

Sure check transcript one la. Imagine you study hard get Dist for most modules but another joker get his degree with mostly Pass grades, sure have to compare one. HR have to filter out those with pass degree.

Whether you do it on campus or DL, most importantly must know how stand out from the crowd. Market yourself well plus a little bit of luck sure can get good job.
 

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hello

As I'm taking a business course in temasek poly, I think it's alright to transfer to private as business course is quite commonly offered by private institute unlike applied science or engineer course. What would you all recommend or suggest?

I graduated from NUS. never ever take the private route. always stick to the recognized one. safer and better.
 

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Anyway ts, stick to local poly. If want to boost uni application, be active in CCA and community work. Your education in local poly will give you a strong foundation be it for work or for further studies.

And don't forget if you go pte uni, most of your peers will grad and apply for job with a degree AND a poly diploma. Same pay, you think who will employer hire?


THE employer will hire the one with the better attitude more connected to their job requirements. What makes you think it is all just paper talk? A true HR professional will look at the characteristics of the candidate and if they actually suit the working environment, the team they will work with.

You are talking about govt jobs? Yes, local papers are wanted here. It is to PROTECT the local graduates.

I've been in Human Resources for 6 years, and what you have said is very unprofessional in giving others the wrong impression.

That said, I agree with ts staying in the local poly. Never give up, and all the best.
 

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THE employer will hire the one with the better attitude more connected to their job requirements. What makes you think it is all just paper talk? A true HR professional will look at the characteristics of the candidate and if they actually suit the working environment, the team they will work with.

You are talking about govt jobs? Yes, local papers are wanted here. It is to PROTECT the local graduates.

I've been in Human Resources for 6 years, and what you have said is very unprofessional in giving others the wrong impression.

That said, I agree with ts staying in the local poly. Never give up, and all the best.
lol simi talking unprofessional you?

Franzz is not from HR, and it's a friendly advice from school of hard knocks aka life university. Definitely more honest and practical than whatever advice you get from professional who can't even give their personal opinion.
 
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