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errm..

i mean not BJT but generally the system BUNKA is having for japanese language according to the information i have gathered and seen...

I am not saying that BUNKA is only focusing conversation, but they do focus on other aspects...

sorry for the misunderstanding i have caused... :D


Ouh. HaHa! XD But for our last lesson, the teacher emphasize a lot on conversations... perhaps because it's getting nearer to our last lesson and there's THE TEST to worry about. x_x

We learnt about directions and how to answer in many different ways. It was fun, and now I think I can survive shopping in Japan... :D At the very least, I know how to ask for directions and won't get lost... :s13:

I must study harder to pass THE TEST and get to elementary 2. And perhaps, if time permits, I'll take the N5 next year.. :D
 

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hehe... i wanted to take but right now only having basic 1 level
i need to complete most of the lessons at Ikoma so that I could go for N5 next yr :D

heh...

then see u at IKOMA soon!

my class on saturday noon, maybe changing to monday evening though... :D
 

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Ouh. HaHa! XD But for our last lesson, the teacher emphasize a lot on conversations... perhaps because it's getting nearer to our last lesson and there's THE TEST to worry about. x_x

We learnt about directions and how to answer in many different ways. It was fun, and now I think I can survive shopping in Japan... :D At the very least, I know how to ask for directions and won't get lost... :s13:

I must study harder to pass THE TEST and get to elementary 2. And perhaps, if time permits, I'll take the N5 next year.. :D

thats cool...

if u pass all the test and complete intermediate in BUNKA, i believe N4 may not be a problem for u next year...

thats my suggestion though... N5 is a very good target to set and aim...

all the best!
 

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Share with you guys this post by a friend... Very true indeed.

It's a challenge to maintain one's fluency in Japanese outside of Japan. Recently, I've finished reading "Polyglot: How I Learn Languages"by Kato Lomb, "a Hungarian interpreter, translator, language genius and one of the first simultaneous interpreters of the world" (courtesy of Wikipedia).

She introduced the concept of "linguistic microclimate" which is "the linguistic environment which immediately surrounds you in your studies and which you can, to an extent, create for yourself, even in your home". This is exactly what Khatzumoto of the "All Japanese All The Time" blog created for himself to became fluent in Japanese before stepping onto Japan soil.

In Singapore, it's very difficult to maintain one's fluency unless one is using Japanese actively on the job or in social circles where there is frequent contact with Japanese people, so the onus is on oneself to create a "linguistic microclimate". Examples include watching Japanese dramas, listening to Japanese songs, reading Japanese books, surfing websites in Japanese, etc. As one's fluency drops drastically when not using the language, how well one's fluency is maintained is directly proportional to the contact time one has with Japanese.

In my office, there's a guy, Mr. D, who is a Singaporean. As those who are familiar with a typical Japanese office layout will know, the director's table is beside the window and the next senior person's table will be facing the director's table. The less senior person's table faces the next senior person's table in a column, etc.

When I first joined my company, I was a bit surprised when I first heard Mr. D speak Japanese, as his fluency is no different from that of a native Japanese, which is quite rare in Singapore. As my cubicle was near both Mr. D and his Japanese director's tables, I was able to hear their conversations. The more I listened, the more I was impressed with Mr. D's fluency. However, I didn't have a chance to talk to him although we recognised each other.

This week, I met him at a staircase and I asked him whether he had lived in Japan. He replied "6 years". I then complimented him on his Japanese and he dismissed it modestly.

From this, I can conclude that the best way to maintain one's fluency, in the absence of a Japanese spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend or good Japanese friends, is still using Japanese in one's job. Also, I think a precondition is that one's fluency level should be very near or equal to that of a native Japanese, otherwise the drop will be very steep once one is no longer in a purely Japanese-speaking environment.
 

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Ouh. HaHa! XD But for our last lesson, the teacher emphasize a lot on conversations... perhaps because it's getting nearer to our last lesson and there's THE TEST to worry about. x_x

We learnt about directions and how to answer in many different ways. It was fun, and now I think I can survive shopping in Japan... :D At the very least, I know how to ask for directions and won't get lost... :s13:

I must study harder to pass THE TEST and get to elementary 2. And perhaps, if time permits, I'll take the N5 next year.. :D

There is another lesson on directions in Int3 and will be amongst the categories in Oral test. Learning that will really help you get around...

Think you should get registered for Level4 to get a good feel, even if you have not attended the required lessons yet. Don't worry about the results, just to get used to sitting for a test in a foreign language, so that next year, you may prepare yourself to take N5 / N4 or even N3...

Oh ya, the directions [ location of objects ] you learned will be tested in Oral also...
 

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Share with you guys this post by a friend... Very true indeed.

It's a challenge to maintain one's fluency in Japanese outside of Japan. Recently, I've finished reading "Polyglot: How I Learn Languages"by Kato Lomb, "a Hungarian interpreter, translator, language genius and one of the first simultaneous interpreters of the world" (courtesy of Wikipedia).

She introduced the concept of "linguistic microclimate" which is "the linguistic environment which immediately surrounds you in your studies and which you can, to an extent, create for yourself, even in your home". This is exactly what Khatzumoto of the "All Japanese All The Time" blog created for himself to became fluent in Japanese before stepping onto Japan soil.

In Singapore, it's very difficult to maintain one's fluency unless one is using Japanese actively on the job or in social circles where there is frequent contact with Japanese people, so the onus is on oneself to create a "linguistic microclimate". Examples include watching Japanese dramas, listening to Japanese songs, reading Japanese books, surfing websites in Japanese, etc. As one's fluency drops drastically when not using the language, how well one's fluency is maintained is directly proportional to the contact time one has with Japanese.

In my office, there's a guy, Mr. D, who is a Singaporean. As those who are familiar with a typical Japanese office layout will know, the director's table is beside the window and the next senior person's table will be facing the director's table. The less senior person's table faces the next senior person's table in a column, etc.

When I first joined my company, I was a bit surprised when I first heard Mr. D speak Japanese, as his fluency is no different from that of a native Japanese, which is quite rare in Singapore. As my cubicle was near both Mr. D and his Japanese director's tables, I was able to hear their conversations. The more I listened, the more I was impressed with Mr. D's fluency. However, I didn't have a chance to talk to him although we recognised each other.

This week, I met him at a staircase and I asked him whether he had lived in Japan. He replied "6 years". I then complimented him on his Japanese and he dismissed it modestly.

From this, I can conclude that the best way to maintain one's fluency, in the absence of a Japanese spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend or good Japanese friends, is still using Japanese in one's job. Also, I think a precondition is that one's fluency level should be very near or equal to that of a native Japanese, otherwise the drop will be very steep once one is no longer in a purely Japanese-speaking environment.

yes, very true.... that is why i tot of getting panpel :(
dont know gd idea or not. coz not easy to get jap company to work too
 

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Share with you guys this post by a friend... Very true indeed.

It's a challenge to maintain one's fluency in Japanese outside of Japan. Recently, I've finished reading "Polyglot: How I Learn Languages"by Kato Lomb, "a Hungarian interpreter, translator, language genius and one of the first simultaneous interpreters of the world" (courtesy of Wikipedia).

She introduced the concept of "linguistic microclimate" which is "the linguistic environment which immediately surrounds you in your studies and which you can, to an extent, create for yourself, even in your home". This is exactly what Khatzumoto of the "All Japanese All The Time" blog created for himself to became fluent in Japanese before stepping onto Japan soil.

In Singapore, it's very difficult to maintain one's fluency unless one is using Japanese actively on the job or in social circles where there is frequent contact with Japanese people, so the onus is on oneself to create a "linguistic microclimate". Examples include watching Japanese dramas, listening to Japanese songs, reading Japanese books, surfing websites in Japanese, etc. As one's fluency drops drastically when not using the language, how well one's fluency is maintained is directly proportional to the contact time one has with Japanese.

In my office, there's a guy, Mr. D, who is a Singaporean. As those who are familiar with a typical Japanese office layout will know, the director's table is beside the window and the next senior person's table will be facing the director's table. The less senior person's table faces the next senior person's table in a column, etc.

When I first joined my company, I was a bit surprised when I first heard Mr. D speak Japanese, as his fluency is no different from that of a native Japanese, which is quite rare in Singapore. As my cubicle was near both Mr. D and his Japanese director's tables, I was able to hear their conversations. The more I listened, the more I was impressed with Mr. D's fluency. However, I didn't have a chance to talk to him although we recognised each other.

This week, I met him at a staircase and I asked him whether he had lived in Japan. He replied "6 years". I then complimented him on his Japanese and he dismissed it modestly.

From this, I can conclude that the best way to maintain one's fluency, in the absence of a Japanese spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend or good Japanese friends, is still using Japanese in one's job. Also, I think a precondition is that one's fluency level should be very near or equal to that of a native Japanese, otherwise the drop will be very steep once one is no longer in a purely Japanese-speaking environment.

kind of common sense, don't have to read a book to know that.....
 

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There is another lesson on directions in Int3 and will be amongst the categories in Oral test. Learning that will really help you get around...

Think you should get registered for Level4 to get a good feel, even if you have not attended the required lessons yet. Don't worry about the results, just to get used to sitting for a test in a foreign language, so that next year, you may prepare yourself to take N5 / N4 or even N3...

Oh ya, the directions [ location of objects ] you learned will be tested in Oral also...



I was thinking about what keong-san said about jumping straight into N4 next year, provided that I'm confident enough... But I think that I should 'test the water' first...? xD So I guess maybe taking JLPT 4 this year would be a good start...

But then again, I don't know a single word of kanji! Even if I can cover katakana, I don't think I would be able to start on kanji. Don't I need to know kanji to take the JLPT...? At least a bit? :s11:
 

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I was thinking about what keong-san said about jumping straight into N4 next year, provided that I'm confident enough... But I think that I should 'test the water' first...? xD So I guess maybe taking JLPT 4 this year would be a good start...

But then again, I don't know a single word of kanji! Even if I can cover katakana, I don't think I would be able to start on kanji. Don't I need to know kanji to take the JLPT...? At least a bit? :s11:
I'll send you the list of Kanji for JLPT 4.
 

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I'll send you the list of Kanji for JLPT 4.

Thank you~! :)
But... Meaning that there's only a specific few kanji that I need to know?

EDIT: Okay, I just realised that it's not 'a few'. -.-; HaHa! But I only need to know just that much?
 
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