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dimitri_can

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I think the more important thing is what u have learned. Even though u fail, it doesnt mean anything. Think about the hard work and study that u have went thru for this.
 

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Hi fellow SP-rians. :s13:

@dimitri - urh , i see. But I guess I'll ask around and get feedbacks regarding the new syllabus. :)

@ah keong - Oh , I heard about that it while I was looking for schools to study Jap. Why is it better?

Thanks for the advicessss! :D

the syllubus is good and interesting
but remember to study till u finish the intermediate courses else you have to start from scratch if u intend to switch schools :D
 

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Me at maybe less than 60%... Die lah... Using Anki's cram mode, cram like mad, still not able to remember...

relax... take your time... 1500 words is of no joke... :D
i havent study the adverbs yet...

i studying everyday at SMU near the Mr. Bean there...

do feel free to come join me study comrade... :D
 

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help,

hi, what is the difference between ikimasuka and ikundesuka?

for eg:

Doko e ikimasuka/ Doko e ikundesuka?

When to use ikimasuka or ikundesuka ? thanks!
 
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would appreciate if anyone could help to explain the usage of the 6 forms. this was taught from bunka

1. nai-form , to make sentences negative

2. masu-form, generally used ,for formal occasions

3. dictionary- form, for informal occasions.

4. conditional form- to ask advice from listener

5. volitional form- speaker's plan, thought or idea

6. te- form- 1. Request Eg: miTE kudasai (please look)

2. Present progessive form -iru/imasu( formal)
Eg: Hirugokun o tabeteiru ( im having lunch)

3. To decribe a habitual action and condition

4. Listing successive actions, used to connect 2 or more verbs
Eg: Hachi-ji ni okite gakkou ni itta ( I got up at 8 and went to school)

5. Asking permission
Eg: Teribi o mite mo ii desuka(May i watch tv)

Am i correct in the explaination of the following verbs? these are gathered through various websites and the messy textbook doesn't really help much.
Thanks
 

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Hi zannnzannn, what u have learned is only the basics. There are further more meanings to it. To not confuse you, i'll just comment on what u have written. If i am not wrong, u are at Elementary 2 of Bunka now yeah?

My comments in red.

would appreciate if anyone could help to explain the usage of the 6 forms. this was taught from bunka

1. nai-form , to make sentences negative
->mainly yes. e.g ごはんを食べない =ごはんをたべません

2. masu-form, generally used ,for formal occasions
->yes

3. dictionary- form, for informal occasions.
->yes

4. conditional form- to ask advice from listener (N4/JLPT 3 syllabus)
->it means "if"

5. volitional form- speaker's plan, thought or idea (N4/JLPT 3 syllabus)
->volition=act of will of doing something.

私は日本へ行こうと思います (i am thinking of going to Japan)

6. te- form-

1. Request Eg: miTE kudasai (please look)
->yes

2. Present progessive form -iru/imasu( formal)
Eg: Hirugokun o tabeteiru ( im having lunch)
->yes

3. To describe a habitual action and condition
->yes (e.g 私は結婚しています)

4. Listing successive actions, used to connect 2 or more verbs
Eg: Hachi-ji ni okite gakkou ni itta ( I got up at 8 and went to school)
->yes

5. Asking permission
Eg: Teribi o mite mo ii desuka(May i watch tv)
->yes

Am i correct in the explaination of the following verbs? these are gathered through various websites and the messy textbook doesn't really help much.
Thanks
 
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help,

hi, what is the difference between ikimasuka and ikundesuka?

for eg:

Doko e ikimasuka/ Doko e ikundesuka?

When to use ikimasuka or ikundesuka ? thanks!
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would appreciate if anyone could help to explain the usage of the 6 forms. this was taught from bunka

1. nai-form , to make sentences negative

2. masu-form, generally used ,for formal occasions

3. dictionary- form, for informal occasions.

4. conditional form- to ask advice from listener

5. volitional form- speaker's plan, thought or idea

6. te- form- 1. Request Eg: miTE kudasai (please look)

2. Present progessive form -iru/imasu( formal)
Eg: Hirugokun o tabeteiru ( im having lunch)

3. To decribe a habitual action and condition

4. Listing successive actions, used to connect 2 or more verbs
Eg: Hachi-ji ni okite gakkou ni itta ( I got up at 8 and went to school)

5. Asking permission
Eg: Teribi o mite mo ii desuka(May i watch tv)

Am i correct in the explaination of the following verbs? these are gathered through various websites and the messy textbook doesn't really help much.
Thanks

How to explain... The textbook is not meant to be read as a normal textbook, but designed to be used as a teaching guide for senseis. It's not messy, but rather written in a technical way as the writer has a degree in Mathematics. My guess is you obtained an Ele1 textbook and tried to self study yourself so that you can take the placement test and go straight to Ele2. Cause if you are already in Ele1 class, your sensei will already be teaching you all these.
 

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help,

hi, what is the difference between ikimasuka and ikundesuka?

for eg:

Doko e ikimasuka/ Doko e ikundesuka?

When to use ikimasuka or ikundesuka ? thanks!

You only need to worry about the difference once you reach PreAdvance 1 level. Any choice from Ele1 to Int4 is the right answer. Sensei will mark your answer as correct whichever one you use.

Your timing is very bad... Fancy asking these questions when JLPT is arriving in a few days.

I will answer your questions after this Sun Dec 6 if you still have more... For now we have to use whatever little time we have left to prepare...

and if you know how to derive the 6 forms, you already have 1/3 of the Ele1 syllabus covered.
 
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dimitri_can: thanks for your great help. i've only started ele 1, just few lessons only. A beginner so all these stuff are quite confusing to me. Thanks for your notes.


azumangadaioh, thanks for answering my questions. im just having ele 1 lessons in bunka, only lesson 4 yet and the sensei doesnt really explains well. and regarding the timing, i have NO IDEA that u guys are taking jplt or the date of jplt is drawing near. Nevertheless thanks for the great help too.
 

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For those taking JLPT 3, below are some tips. There will be 1 of this type of questions, so do watch out if you wish to earn your 3.5 marks. (Why 3.5? Go figure out urself) So if 1 of those type of questions come out, take note of the correct answers. You guys owe me 21 marks. :D

1) 部屋からにおい___します
1. を
2.が
3.は
4.に

2)日本語が話せる人はあなた___いません
1. だけ
2.しか
3.が
4.を

or questions relating to だけ

3) 日本からシンガポールまで7時間___かかります
1.を
2.も
3.に
4.が

4) クラスで 新しい 友だち______できた
1.を
2.が
3.に
4.へ

5)あと 10分______7時ですよ。
1  に     2 と     3 を     4 で

6)ひまだから ゲーム_____しましょう。
1 でも    2 しか    3 まで    4 ながら
=====================================
This type of question might appear.

6)日本にいったら、息子に_______。
1) 案内させましょう
2)案内されましょう
3)案内させられましょう
4)案内しましょう。
 
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dimitri_can: thanks for your great help. i've only started ele 1, just few lessons only. A beginner so all these stuff are quite confusing to me. Thanks for your notes.


azumangadaioh, thanks for answering my questions. im just having ele 1 lessons in bunka, only lesson 4 yet and the sensei doesnt really explains well. and regarding the timing, i have NO IDEA that u guys are taking jplt or the date of jplt is drawing near. Nevertheless thanks for the great help too.
it would be good to get a copy of Minna no Nihongo 1-1,1-2,2-1,2-2 Grammar Translation Notes. It's about 15-20 per book, sold in Kinokuniya. If you wish to take a look at the book, u can pm me. =)
 

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You only need to worry about the difference once you reach PreAdvance 1 level. Any choice from Ele1 to Int4 is the right answer. Sensei will mark your answer as correct whichever one you use.

Your timing is very bad... Fancy asking these questions when JLPT is arriving in a few days.

I will answer your questions after this Sun Dec 6 if you still have more... For now we have to use whatever little time we have left to prepare...

and if you know how to derive the 6 forms, you already have 1/3 of the Ele1 syllabus covered.
That must be why the words seems like it's from a typewriter... -__-"
 
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