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ahmahippo

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I studied at Bunka till Int 4. I skipped JLPT4 and went direct to JLPT3 and passed. But I did self study, of course.
Before starting at Bunka, I had already memorised hiragana/katakana as well as some basic conjugations.



:eek: err how come can skip JLPT 4? is it go for all the 4 Int in Bunka can skip? :s11:
wonder would able to get cert.?



lastly, i dont know why this is so ex.

http://www.japonin.com/
 

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:eek: err how come can skip JLPT 4? is it go for all the 4 Int in Bunka can skip? :s11:
wonder would able to get cert.?



lastly, i dont know why this is so ex.

http://www.japonin.com/

I think the standard for JLPT 4 & 3 is about the same. Thus, some people might choose the option of skipping JLPT 4 & take JLPT 3 instead.

For me, I have taken JLPT 4 last year. This year going to take JLPT 3.....
 

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help help. i'm going for EL2 exam this coming sun. Bunka school. I know the listening test is gong to up lorry lah, cos i hardly catch wat the sensei saying. (too fast for my lvl).
Any kind soul info me what the listening story the sensei is going to test on me?
The oral test : what kind of topic she will test me?
Thanks
 

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I think the standard for JLPT 4 & 3 is about the same. Thus, some people might choose the option of skipping JLPT 4 & take JLPT 3 instead.

For me, I have taken JLPT 4 last year. This year going to take JLPT 3.....

oh... wonder would JLPT 4 hard or not... wat would they normally test?

meaning if one self learning also can go for the test?
 

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wonder does all schools give cert. of completion or something for the lesson we learned? :D

me still arent sure where to head for...
 

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oh... wonder would JLPT 4 hard or not... wat would they normally test?

meaning if one self learning also can go for the test?

Although JLPT 3 & 4 are quite similar, I find that I am lost on JLPT 3, esp trying the past yr questions.....

JLPT 4 is still not too bad.....
 

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hi guys my 1st post here! looks like everyone i pretty good in japanese here! Great place to pick up jap lang =).

I've got a question to ask!

whats the difference between nowa vs noo when creating large nouns?

E.g asita syorui mottekuru "no o " wasurenaidekudasai

can no o be substituted with no wa?

And how do i type jap in this forum! thanks!
 

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hi guys my 1st post here! looks like everyone i pretty good in japanese here! Great place to pick up jap lang =).

I've got a question to ask!

whats the difference between nowa vs noo when creating large nouns?

E.g asita syorui mottekuru "no o " wasurenaidekudasai

can no o be substituted with no wa?

And how do i type jap in this forum! thanks!

明日書類を持ってくるのは忘れないでください。
 

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fox1さんはたぶん間違えましたね。。

明日書類を持ってくるの忘れないでください

のは cannot be used... the matter about 忘れないでください is done on the matter (明日書類を持ってくる)

Maybe ender or terraj にきいたほうがいいと思います。
 

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明日書類を持ってくるのは忘れないでください。

so both no o and no wa can be used? My book writes no o =.=. if no wa can be used, whats the diff between no o and no wa cause it seems pretty much the same to me
 

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in this case, ur no changes the verb in front into a nou. 持ってくる is not a noun so by right u cannot perform an action on it. (think in english we cannot say "forget bringing").

so after u change 持ってくるinto a noun, u must connect it to the rest of ur sentence. はis used to denote the main subject and can be thought of in english as "is". so if we use no wa in this case, it will become "bringing please do not forget" weird, isn't it? u are asking the action to not forget something

since 忘れないでください comes from 忘れる which is a verb, when we connect a noun to it in front we always use を. examples are 手紙を書く、ご飯を食べる.

in other words, no wa CANNOT be used and there is a big difference.
 

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Niaosan, please allow me to clarify something u said

"since 忘れないでください comes from 忘れる which is a verb, when we connect a noun to it in front we always use を. examples are 手紙を書く、ご飯を食べる."

Verbs is generally broken down to 2 types.
-Transitive verbs (他動詞)
-Intransitive verbs (自動詞)

忘れる is a transitive verb (他動詞), meaning to say, the particle (助詞) used is 「を」
There are some other verbs like 落ちる which are intransitive verb (自動詞), meaning to say, the particle used is 「が」
e.g 桜が落ちました

so take note. =)

More information can be found here

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/transtype.html
 
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in this case, ur no changes the verb in front into a nou. 持ってくる is not a noun so by right u cannot perform an action on it. (think in english we cannot say "forget bringing").

so after u change 持ってくるinto a noun, u must connect it to the rest of ur sentence. はis used to denote the main subject and can be thought of in english as "is". so if we use no wa in this case, it will become "bringing please do not forget" weird, isn't it? u are asking the action to not forget something

since 忘れないでください comes from 忘れる which is a verb, when we connect a noun to it in front we always use を. examples are 手紙を書く、ご飯を食べる.

in other words, no wa CANNOT be used and there is a big difference.

:eek: nice explaination! Think i understand stand now. From what i understand now "no o" is used if a verb follows while "no wa" is used when a state follows "e.g potential, part tense and adjectives". Am i right to say that?
 

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i understand. but judging from the question we can see that he probably has not gone on to 自動詞と他動詞。だから、今、説明が詳しすぎると、わからずに、迷っちゃうよ
 
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