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Hi GottaCatchEmAll,

please see reply in green

Hi, I saw Skillsfuture is offering Japanese language courses and keen to take up.

1) My aim is to achieve proficiency in Japanese business and normal conversational level, may I know which N is sufficient?
for Japanese Business, bare minimum is N2.
for normal conversation, very very bare minimum is N3.


2) I am currently working and saw that JCSS has after office hours timetable (which I am ok to commit 2.5hrs/week), but the price is so expensive~ :s22: Do I really need to attend classes?
It depends. studying a third language requires commitment, dedication, preparation (予習), practising (練習)and revision (復習). Of course, I am not smart nor talented. Some take longer time like me, while some just pick it up like eating chicken feed. For conversation, you need a partner or teacher to cosplay and converse with you to drill the accent, manners, tones, etc and learn from your own mistakes and also mistakes from others. Such experience cannot be learned without attending classes.


2a) Hougang Japanese is much cheaper, anyone can comment is it good?
I wont be able to comment on this as my experience is in JCS and IKOMA.
At the end of the day, the teacher(s) can only show you the path, the rest is up to the practitioner
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3) Is self-learn a lot harder? I am completely new to Japanese language.
If you are completely new to Japanese language, you may need to have a experienced teacher/lecturer to point you and guide you along the way together with sharing of advice. I started self-learning when I was in poly days under the guidance of my friend who is proficient in the language and culture.

self-learning requires lots of discipline, dedication and time. Do consider very seriously.
 
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Hi, I saw Skillsfuture is offering Japanese language courses and keen to take up.

1) My aim is to achieve proficiency in Japanese business and normal conversational level, may I know which N is sufficient?

2) I am currently working and saw that JCSS has after office hours timetable (which I am ok to commit 2.5hrs/week), but the price is so expensive~ :s22: Do I really need to attend classes?

2a) Hougang Japanese is much cheaper, anyone can comment is it good?

3) Is self-learn a lot harder? I am completely new to Japanese language.

I’m taking classes from Hougang Japanese language school elementary 2 now.. I think it’s a good school and intend to stick to this school..at least till N3
 

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For those who are learning intermediate to advanced japanese language, you may also check out a Japanese youtube account, KAZUYA channel.


I personally find his content rich and intellectual, from political to entertainment to lifestyle, he debates his topics very well and speaks eloquently.
 

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Hello, Any Japanese Near Jurong or Clementi or West side for learning Japanese ya? what is the price now ya ? Any idea ?


thank u :))
 

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Anyone has any experience learning via skype like through italki.com? Looked through ikoma and bunka's schedule and most classes are after working hours and on weekends which does not work well for me. Individual lessons would be more expensive and I actually prefer learning in a small group to facilitate practice sigh
 

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Anyone has any experience learning via skype like through italki.com? Looked through ikoma and bunka's schedule and most classes are after working hours and on weekends which does not work well for me. Individual lessons would be more expensive and I actually prefer learning in a small group to facilitate practice sigh

I believe there are classes which is during "working hours"

http://www.ikoma.com.sg/en/jp/n-c/full-basic.html
 

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I believe there are classes which is during "working hours"

http://www.ikoma.com.sg/en/jp/n-c/full-basic.html

I did study for a semester in uni so maybe I should do a placement first to see if I should start from scratch again but worried whether after finishing basic there will be an option for intermediate lessons at those timings, I should check with them to confirm, thank you for pointing out to me
 

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yup, do feel free to check it out.
if u are not confident, do start from scratch as fundamentals foundation is very important for language studies....
 

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I just began basic lesson with ikoma.

May I ask is it possible to attain Conversational jap (JLPT N3?) by year end?

As one progresses from basic to advanced Japanese, what are the differences? more complex sentence?

Please kindly advice me what can I do during freetime to learn faster.
 

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I just began basic lesson with ikoma.

May I ask is it possible to attain Conversational jap (JLPT N3?) by year end?

As one progresses from basic to advanced Japanese, what are the differences? more complex sentence?

Please kindly advice me what can I do during freetime to learn faster.

Basically you need to keep on brushing up your fundamentals and stuff. As u go along, ur passed levels is being made use of it.

To learn faster doesn’t work, u best need to learn effectively and take a stepping stone. Cause by learning fast you will not learn anything, this is important when it comes to learning things.
I learnt my lesson to this rule to my self.

There is alot to learn other than the textbook, new things, always upgrade and update urself.
For japanese level, as you go along, you will be advanced further to a new complete level in different sections such as kanji and grammar. Listening and convo will be also faster so it wont be easy.

Just my 3 cents. :)
 

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I just began basic lesson with ikoma.

May I ask is it possible to attain Conversational jap (JLPT N3?) by year end?

As one progresses from basic to advanced Japanese, what are the differences? more complex sentence?

Please kindly advice me what can I do during freetime to learn faster.

may I ask is your basic lessons Full Time (intensive)?
http://www.ikoma.com.sg/en/jp/n-c/full-basic.html

Do you have any prior knowledge or experience before this course?
if Nope, it is possible to get N4 by year end.

For N3, it is still possible but it would be a very intensive experience for you. Basically, you would be submerged to Japanese Language day in day out 24/7 for the whole year.

meanwhile you may want to start to look at other books (Vocab, Grammar, Kanji, JLPT, etc) in Kinokuniya.

For conversation, the key is practice and ability to process in Japanese Language in your brain. Every
 
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I just began basic lesson with ikoma.

May I ask is it possible to attain Conversational jap (JLPT N3?) by year end?

As one progresses from basic to advanced Japanese, what are the differences? more complex sentence?

Please kindly advice me what can I do during freetime to learn faster.

You need to get familiar with the language. If you study Japanese full time, it is "possible" to pass N3 but N3 doesn't means conversational. It is as why many Japanese can pass English papers but can't speak English on a conversational level. If you study just to pass the paper, you can definitely score but that does not mean you can converse.

There is no need to rush. The more you use it, the more you internalize it. You have to do both active and passive learning. Active is to go for classes, do your homework, revise your lessons etc. Passive is to immerse in Japanese, watch Japanese TV programmes, drama, anime etc, listen to Japanese music, try to catch the subtle nuance of the language. When starting out, spend more time on active learning. After you have your foundation, move on and get more passive learning by immersing yourself. Another thing is to attend meetups that speak solely Japanese. Force yourself to make mistake when you speak and get then corrected. Make Japanese friends, make friend with your sensei, practice your Japanese on them, ask them question if you have doubts on certain expression.

All in all, I will say that it really depends the amount of effort you put in. Good luck.
 
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