learning japanese

[unfinished07]

isn't it just (plain form + よう)?
quite staight forward isn't it?

 

[ahmahippo]

in order to take JLPT 4...

one need to know 120 Kanji characters?

 

[ransackyourtoilet]

ahmahippo>>Ah no point worrying about that now, just follow the syllabus. And then for the words they teach, try to find the Kanji. Heres a list of vocab. http://www.jlptstudy.com/4/index.html

Btw, I have another qn......

Ｑ）ぜんぜん
１）ぜんぜん走る
２）難しくてぜんぜんできない
３）簡単すぎてぜんぜんできる
４）ぜんぜん大丈夫

I didn't know whether to choose 2 or 4. Someone told me the answer is 2, but im not sure why 4 is wrong then. He also says that 1 is frequently heard as well.

For example
あなたの車は古くて走らないでしょ？
Your car is too old to run, isn't it?
いいえ、ぜんぜん走りますよ。
No, this car still runs all right.

ここは小さい町なので、外国人はあまり　。。。。。。
１）「見ません」
２）「見えません」
３）「見ます」
４）「見つかります」
It's 1 right? Not 3?

Ａ［日本で英語を教えたいので、日本語を勉強したほうがいいですか？」
Ｂ［日本に。。。。。、勉強したほうがいいです。」
１）住むと
２）住んだら
３）住むなら
４）住めば

It's 3 right? Because of the hou ga ii. If its [勉強したらいいです] and [勉強すればいいです] then its tara and ba form right?

 

[terraj]

ぜんぜん（全然） usually needs to be used with negation (否定).
For example, if asked a question, 「面白いですか」, you can answer simply 「全然」 which means 「全然面白くない」

So 2) is the correct answer.

However 4) is actually used in regular speech. It's one of the exceptions (don't forget speech changes with time so meanings change too). Just think of it is 大丈夫＝問題ない and it's a bit easier...

ahmahippo>>Ah no point worrying about that now, just follow the syllabus. And then for the words they teach, try to find the Kanji. Heres a list of vocab. http://www.jlptstudy.com/4/index.html

Btw, I have another qn......

Ｑ）ぜんぜん
１）ぜんぜん走る
２）難しくてぜんぜんできない
３）簡単すぎてぜんぜんできる
４）ぜんぜん大丈夫

I didn't know whether to choose 2 or 4. Someone told me the answer is 2, but im not sure why 4 is wrong then.

 

[ahmahippo]

ahmahippo>>Ah no point worrying about that now, just follow the syllabus. And then for the words they teach, try to find the Kanji. Heres a list of vocab. http://www.jlptstudy.com/4/index.html

Btw, I have another qn......

Ｑ）ぜんぜん
１）ぜんぜん走る
２）難しくてぜんぜんできない
３）簡単すぎてぜんぜんできる
４）ぜんぜん大丈夫

I didn't know whether to choose 2 or 4. Someone told me the answer is 2, but im not sure why 4 is wrong then. He also says that 1 is frequently heard as well.

For example
あなたの車は古くて走らないでしょ？
Your car is too old to run, isn't it?
いいえ、ぜんぜん走りますよ。
No, this car still runs all right.

ここは小さい町なので、外国人はあまり　。。。。。。
１）「見ません」
２）「見えません」
３）「見ます」
４）「見つかります」
It's 1 right? Not 3?

Ａ［日本で英語を教えたいので、日本語を勉強したほうがいいですか？」
Ｂ［日本に。。。。。、勉強したほうがいいです。」
１）住むと
２）住んだら
３）住むなら
４）住めば

It's 3 right? Because of the hou ga ii. If its [勉強したらいいです] and [勉強すればいいです] then its tara and ba form right?

cool. ok thx

 

[samanthalee]

wow... it must be ex right? anyway, sg never sell them?

or... if you happen to own a Nintendo DS, you can just hop over to amazon to buy the "Kanji Dictionary: Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten"...there's raving reviews on the internet about it... and cheaper than buying a dedicated electronic dictionary. But I haven't use it before though...

 

[ahmahippo]

or... if you happen to own a Nintendo DS, you can just hop over to amazon to buy the "Kanji Dictionary: Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten"...there's raving reviews on the internet about it... and cheaper than buying a dedicated electronic dictionary. But I haven't use it before though...

haha i saw that program b4 for nintendo ds but i dont own it
coz me only like psp
but wonder does kinokuniya do sell such dictionary?

 

[Ah_keong]

i thought zen zen is used for -ve statements??

 

[terraj]

Well I got myself Asus EEE PC for about $450 in Australia, installed Jim Breen's dictionary and will be taking it to me in Japan when I go for my 1 month intensive course

 

[ahmahippo]

Well I got myself Asus EEE PC for about $450 in Australia, installed Jim Breen's dictionary and will be taking it to me in Japan when I go for my 1 month intensive course

wow... so gd can go japan for course



なに = what?

Ochitsuite! = Calm down! = おちついて?


wonder if i am wrong or rite?

 

[terraj]

As I mentioned in my previous post, zen zen is supposed to be used with negation but nowadays it can be used with positive statements depending on the situation due to the changing nature of language. 全然だめ、全然大丈夫、全然OK are acceptable usage in speech for instance.

i thought zen zen is used for -ve statements??

 

[PingJun]

As I mentioned in my previous post, zen zen is supposed to be used with negation but nowadays it can be used with positive statements depending on the situation due to the changing nature of language. 全然だめ、全然大丈夫、全然OK are acceptable usage in speech for instance.

Actually, I have asked this question before to my sensei.

He said that 全然大丈夫 is actually grammartically (spelling?) wrong, as 全然 should be used with a negative word.

 

[terraj]

Yes, that's why I emphasised that it's only used in speech.

If you can read Japanese wiki, there's a decent explanation here:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/全然

「全然大丈夫」というと、全くもって問題が無い、絶好調であることをあらわす。「全然ok」という使い方をされることが多く、1990年代前半に学生を中 心に自然に広まっていったといわれている。現在は携帯電話のメールで「全然」とうつと、候補の中に「全然OK」「全然ok」が含まれて出てくる機種も多 い。

Another discussion here: http://homepage2.nifty.com/osiete/seito58.htm

While I was looking at the Wiki article, I came across some interesting links for those of you who're fairly comfortable with reading Japanese.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/日本語の乱れ
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/若者言葉

Actually, I have asked this question before to my sensei.

He said that 全然大丈夫 is actually grammartically (spelling?) wrong, as 全然 should be used with a negative word.

 

[fox1]

There are actually many improvisation of the Japanese language especially by students and young people.

Some examples I can think of.

KY
やばい
むずい
めんどい
おもろい

 

[ahmahippo]

hehe no one check if i say correct or not.

 

[PingJun]

or... if you happen to own a Nintendo DS, you can just hop over to amazon to buy the "Kanji Dictionary: Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten"...there's raving reviews on the internet about it... and cheaper than buying a dedicated electronic dictionary. But I haven't use it before though...

I think I know which dictonary you are refering to.....

I myself own this dictonary.

 

[PingJun]

wow... so gd can go japan for course



なに = what?

Ochitsuite! = Calm down! = おちついて?


wonder if i am wrong or rite?

So far, I know that the word "what" can be either in なに or なん.

There's a rule of when to use なに & when to use なん.

FYI, its Kanji is 何.....

 

[ahmahippo]

So far, I know that the word "what" can be either in なに or なん.

There's a rule of when to use なに & when to use なん.

FYI, its Kanji is 何.....

oh ok thanks

 

[ransackyourtoilet]

ah keong>> ya that's what I thought lor. Thanks terraj and pingjun for clearing this up!

fox1>>
やばい - eh? its not yabai in the first place meh?
むずい - is this muzukashii?
めんどい - is this troublesome?

ano.....Can someone help to clarify with my other qns? Its on page 2. There are 2 posts.

 

[ransackyourtoilet]

Hi can anyone help me check my answer for Mondai V? (page 12)

http://www.japaneseproficiencypower.com/Email/Level3Grammar1.pdf

44) 2 Douzo
45) 2 Hai
46) 1 Gochuumon wo kurikaesasete itadakimasu
47) 2 Shokuji no mae

Just trying to double check....My polite and honorific stuff is not good.