learning japanese

[dimitri_can]

Also, ために、not だめに。

It's set up as a trap to trick people. LOL
Not going to change that question.

 

[Niaoson]

What's wrong with this question?

合格するようにis not grammatically correct. it should be 合格できるように。if you want to use するinstead of できるthen u should be using ためにafter that which is not found in the options.

 

[dimitri_can]

I got it checked. It's correct. =)

Many examples here.

http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=...fr=top_ga1_sa&tid=top_ga1_sa&ei=UTF-8&aq=&oq=

For those looking forward to the N series.

Attached are some questions.

N1: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N1-mondai.pdf
N2: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N2-mondai.pdf
N3: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N3-mondai.pdf
N4: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N4-mondai.pdf
N5: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N5-mondai.pdf

Under the new syllabus,
There will still be 3 sections, mainly

-言語知識（文字・語彙） Knowledge of Language (Vocabulary)
-言語知識（文法・読解） Knowledge of Language (Grammar/Comprehension)
-聴解 Listening

The guidebook is all in Japanese, i will post more info, once i have finished reading the guide book.

Updates:
In the new exam, there will be a base mark (基準点). If one of the sections is not above the base mark, you will fail the whole exam, regardless of how high your total score is.

E.g


-言語知識（文字・語彙） : Marks: 50/60 Base Mark: 40/60 PASS
-言語知識（文法・読解） : Marks: 50/60 Base Mark: 40/60 PASS
-聴解 : Marks: 30/60 Base Mark: 40/60 FAIL

In this case you will fail the exam. This is damn bad news for those people who cannot pass listening.

At least it can be a gauge for employers who employ staff who have the new certificate. That at least your Japanese is really of a certain standard.

 

[azumangadaioh]

seriously speaking, some ppl may think i come here finding trouble or watsoever
imagine u at a stage u r earnin just 700 a mth and u got to pay so many bills etc
how u could save the money and study like many has done so? That's why I said I choose to self study first.
i am unlike some ppl could trave to jap as often as they want and show off their jap lang. to ppl

FYI: I work from mon till sat full day. only sun. could rest or do whatever i wanted to do.


if u think u know me well. Tell me how well do u know me.
I wil challenge with u on this.



PS: sry for the out of topic but there is something i pissed off.

I earn more or less at the same level as you, but have other sources of income [ but can be irregular ] that I use to pay for my lessons, I do not have enough to save, only whatever extra to pay for lessons. At least you have Sundays to rest, I only have 1 weekday per week for that, and have to work on weekends [ which leaves not much left for social life ]. That only rest day I have is spent at Bunka taking lessons. That is why I will always seek out learning methods [ bunka ], software [ anki ], memory techniques that will let me learn, recall, and understand faster per every hour I spent in learning japanese since time is limited.

Clearly you and I do not have the luxury of time and money to pursue this for a very long time [ without feeling like giving up ], compared to others who can choose to stop taking lessons for a number of years, come back and start over again. It is very obvious, that once a certain minimum standard of spoken japanese and the accompanying qualifications [ JLPT ] to match is obtained, the user will be able to access new employment and academic opportunities not available before. And with that, enjoy the additional economic benefits that these opportunities will offer eventually [ like some users in this forum are benefiting from ], which you may want to have.

I don't profess to say I know a lot about anything at all, but I do know that unless I know exactly what is needed that will help me learn japanese faster, like which ones to learn first, then what to learn next, how much to revise before learning new things, I am better off investing my time in lessons taught by a sensei, than to muddle through, trial & error, make wrong turns without knowing who to turn for help. At the very least, I know I can just follow the sequence of learning taught, and just do revision on that, and have a list of questions that I ask when I meet my sensei again for the next lesson [ spend a little money, save a lot of time ]. Yes, buying those self help study books will help, but who can you ask if you are stuck ? Even some questions can be tough to translate directly to English without some help from a sensei for proper understanding, and some cannot be directly translated at all.

So I would suggest you weigh your options carefully, before you try going to the self study route [ it's a long and winding one ]. One option is to try finding out more about the school I am attending [ ratio of cost vs ratio of content learnt in lessons is quite cost effective, but don't expect to get a perfect or high score in JLPT with that alone ], you can pm me for details if you want to know more [ info that's not listed on website ].

P.S. Don't mean to offend anyone, just want to point out that small simple decisions made now can be life changing many years down the road.

 

[dimitri_can]

I think that's well said.

Having a sensei to ask is better than not having a sensei... azumangadaioh must have spent a lot of time typing all these stuff out...お疲れ様でした

I guess most importantly is to enjoy learning the language.

 

[azumangadaioh]

Updates:
In the new exam, there will be a base mark (基準点). If one of the sections is not above the base mark, you will fail the whole exam, regardless of how high your total score is.

E.g


-言語知識（文字・語彙） : Marks: 50/60 Base Mark: 40/60 PASS
-言語知識（文法・読解） : Marks: 50/60 Base Mark: 40/60 PASS
-聴解 : Marks: 30/60 Base Mark: 40/60 FAIL

In this case you will fail the exam. This is damn bad news for those people who cannot pass listening.

At least it can be a gauge for employers who employ staff who have the new certificate. That at least your Japanese is really of a certain standard.

Interesting, this will definitely raise the bar. Those self studying will have a hard time, unless they have access to a lot of audio material to practise... And will definitely flush out those *who can study but cannot speak and look down on others*...

 

[jiawen1989]

me. managed to get some adv ticket.

btw, anyone game to try this? apps.facebook.com/how-well-is-ccghjjb/take?force=1&resaban=1

50% only T_____T

im dead T___T

 

[noelnoel]

hi guys
just to share
not sure if you already have this rikaichan plugin if your are using firefox
its quite useful for me when i'm surfing the net

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2471
http://www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan/

 

[sweet_vanilla]

I got it checked. It's correct. =)

Many examples here.

http://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?p=...fr=top_ga1_sa&tid=top_ga1_sa&ei=UTF-8&aq=&oq=

For those looking forward to the N series.

Attached are some questions.

N1: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N1-mondai.pdf
N2: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N2-mondai.pdf
N3: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N3-mondai.pdf
N4: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N4-mondai.pdf
N5: http://www.jlpt.jp/j/about/pdf/mondai/N5-mondai.pdf

Under the new syllabus,
There will still be 3 sections, mainly

-言語知識（文字・語彙） Knowledge of Language (Vocabulary)
-言語知識（文法・読解） Knowledge of Language (Grammar/Comprehension)
-聴解 Listening

The guidebook is all in Japanese, i will post more info, once i have finished reading the guide book.

Updates:
In the new exam, there will be a base mark (基準点). If one of the sections is not above the base mark, you will fail the whole exam, regardless of how high your total score is.

E.g


-言語知識（文字・語彙） : Marks: 50/60 Base Mark: 40/60 PASS
-言語知識（文法・読解） : Marks: 50/60 Base Mark: 40/60 PASS
-聴解 : Marks: 30/60 Base Mark: 40/60 FAIL

In this case you will fail the exam. This is damn bad news for those people who cannot pass listening.

At least it can be a gauge for employers who employ staff who have the new certificate. That at least your Japanese is really of a certain standard.

dimitri-san, where u got the info from?
thanks!

 

[t-acc-fox1]

I want to take JLPT too ~
But it costs about $95 in Japan.

 

[sweet_vanilla]

I want to take JLPT too ~
But it costs about $95 in Japan.

OMG SO expensive!!!

 

[dimitri_can]

I wanted to show u more info, but guess u not available, then nvm then...

 

[sweet_vanilla]

I wanted to show u more info, but guess u not available, then nvm then...

I cant make it mah

 

[t-acc-fox1]

OMG SO expensive!!!

Application form costs 500 yen

 

[dimitri_can]

ya... it's 500 yen.

 

[azumangadaioh]

I think that's well said.

Having a sensei to ask is better than not having a sensei... azumangadaioh must have spent a lot of time typing all these stuff out...お疲れ様でした

I guess most importantly is to enjoy learning the language.

By the time I finished typing, my netbook's battery dried up...

 

[azumangadaioh]

hi guys
just to share
not sure if you already have this rikaichan plugin if your are using firefox
its quite useful for me when i'm surfing the net


addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2471
polarcloud.com/rikaichan

Those having multiple windows open and want to use it on a netbook will find there may not be enough memory to run the plugin [ will hang the firefox browser / close it suddenly ], plus sometimes some words cannot be found on it. But it can be an alternative choice if you don't always carry a dictionary around.

There is another dictionary [ Tagaini Jisho ] can be installed on your pc as a freedownload at:

tagaini.net

Someone posted this here sometime back here so I thought I just help to recap...

 

[dimitri_can]

By the time I finished typing, my netbook's battery dried up...

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

[Ah_keong]

seriously speaking, some ppl may think i come here finding trouble or watsoever
imagine u at a stage u r earnin just 700 a mth and u got to pay so many bills etc
how u could save the money and study like many has done so? That's why I said I choose to self study first.
i am unlike some ppl could trave to jap as often as they want and show off their jap lang. to ppl

FYI: I work from mon till sat full day. only sun. could rest or do whatever i wanted to do.


if u think u know me well. Tell me how well do u know me.
I wil challenge with u on this.



PS: sry for the out of topic but there is something i pissed off.

i see, u can try studying part time elementary class at JCS... its quite cheap...
the cost is part of the reason i study there...

 

[Ah_keong]

I earn more or less at the same level as you, but have other sources of income [ but can be irregular ] that I use to pay for my lessons, I do not have enough to save, only whatever extra to pay for lessons. At least you have Sundays to rest, I only have 1 weekday per week for that, and have to work on weekends [ which leaves not much left for social life ]. That only rest day I have is spent at Bunka taking lessons. That is why I will always seek out learning methods [ bunka ], software [ anki ], memory techniques that will let me learn, recall, and understand faster per every hour I spent in learning japanese since time is limited.

Clearly you and I do not have the luxury of time and money to pursue this for a very long time [ without feeling like giving up ], compared to others who can choose to stop taking lessons for a number of years, come back and start over again. It is very obvious, that once a certain minimum standard of spoken japanese and the accompanying qualifications [ JLPT ] to match is obtained, the user will be able to access new employment and academic opportunities not available before. And with that, enjoy the additional economic benefits that these opportunities will offer eventually [ like some users in this forum are benefiting from ], which you may want to have.

I don't profess to say I know a lot about anything at all, but I do know that unless I know exactly what is needed that will help me learn japanese faster, like which ones to learn first, then what to learn next, how much to revise before learning new things, I am better off investing my time in lessons taught by a sensei, than to muddle through, trial & error, make wrong turns without knowing who to turn for help. At the very least, I know I can just follow the sequence of learning taught, and just do revision on that, and have a list of questions that I ask when I meet my sensei again for the next lesson [ spend a little money, save a lot of time ]. Yes, buying those self help study books will help, but who can you ask if you are stuck ? Even some questions can be tough to translate directly to English without some help from a sensei for proper understanding, and some cannot be directly translated at all.

So I would suggest you weigh your options carefully, before you try going to the self study route [ it's a long and winding one ]. One option is to try finding out more about the school I am attending [ ratio of cost vs ratio of content learnt in lessons is quite cost effective, but don't expect to get a perfect or high score in JLPT with that alone ], you can pm me for details if you want to know more [ info that's not listed on website ].

P.S. Don't mean to offend anyone, just want to point out that small simple decisions made now can be life changing many years down the road.

solid description
i can understand ur point of view...

ganbatte!