[Live] Taichung legislator by-election and Taipei legislator recall-election vote counting

ponpokku

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So that means he lost the election but is 'staying on'?

Sorry, kind of confused
no. the guy incurred the wrath of the voters in his district, so they wanna kick him out aka pushed for a recall.
but according to the recall rules iirc, they must hit 25% of total voters and the recall side must have more votes than opposition.
the req votes ish 58k. the recall supporters, thou more votes than the opposition, didnt hit 58k.
so the guy gets to stay on instead of kena removed.
 

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i can foresee KMT continuous demise into the future
 

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no. the guy incurred the wrath of the voters in his district, so they wanna kick him out aka pushed for a recall.
but according to the recall rules iirc, they must hit 25% of total voters and the recall side must have more votes than opposition.
the req votes ish 58k. the recall supporters, thou more votes than the opposition, didnt hit 58k.
so the guy gets to stay on instead of kena removed.
No
Basically unhappy people got people to sign petition to start recall votes process
They got required numbers so recall started

But like I said a certain number must be reached . It wasn't
So it means recall failed
Which means he ISN'T removed
The Taichung Legislative Member WAS recalled.

BTW the requirement for numbers is so that where there's 190,000 registered voters and 10,000 voted for recall against 1 voted for no recall, it means the guy CANNOT be recalled

Thanks for the explanation (y)
 

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no. the guy incurred the wrath of the voters in his district, so they wanna kick him out aka pushed for a recall.
but according to the recall rules iirc, they must hit 25% of total voters and the recall side must have more votes than opposition.
the req votes ish 58k. the recall supporters, thou more votes than the opposition, didnt hit 58k.
so the guy gets to stay on instead of kena removed.

Actually that district he ish in ish known to have more blue camp than green. In this boycott erection beside needing the boycott votes to be more than the non-boycott votes, it also need to hit a minimal total votes (not a taiwanese not sure, read some taiwanese said ish 25% but some said ish 40%) to make the boycott motion went through, that why KMT had an advantage in this kind of boycott erection when their blue base supporters ish more than the green supporters.

But this doesn't mean majority in that district hate the guy, it just mean that there are more blue than green. And a lot of voters are in neither camp and they view this kind of boycott as nuisance and just political game between the two camp nia so most of the neutral voters choose not to get involved. This same sentiment can be observed in their civil votes too, majority of the neutral group choose not to vote so it end up only a competition between blue and green camp nia. This doesn't mean the neutral voters agree or disagree with either side, they just find this kind of $hit ish a nuisance and not worth wasting their time to go vote.

That why KMT ish assume to be bigger losers for doing this kind of nuisance boycott as win or lose their image as troublemaker ish nao imprinted into many of the neutral voters for backing all this nuisance boycott voting.

So It ish the neutral voters that really matter in a real erection, in average the green camp supporters ish around 28~30% of taiwanese, blue ish around 18~20%, white ish around 10%. So in most cities the one who decide who win ish usually the neutral camp that control the remaining 30~40% of the votes, but these neutral normally only come out to vote in an actual erection, not this kind of petty revenge boycott nuisances by blue camp to waste time.
 

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What does it mean in the context of the 'agree' and 'disagree' in the photo below?
it means 54,813 agreed that Lim should not keep his position while 43,340 disagreed
but Lim managed to keep his position because there is a 2nd condition that was not fulfilled namely the minimum number of votes for agreeing has to be at least 58,756. Actual only 54,813 so threshold not met
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Duncallmebro

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it means 54,813 agreed that Lim should not keep his position while 43,340 disagreed
but Lim managed to keep his position because there is a 2nd condition that was not fulfilled namely the minimum number of votes for agreeing has to be at least 58,756. Actual only 54,813 so threshold not met
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english term is impeachment?

I realised why I was confused, cause I mistook two the two different guys as the same person. LOL
 

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i can foresee KMT continuous demise into the future
A strong China means DPP will continue to be the party dominating political arena for next decade.

KMT needs to reposition itself to be even more anti-China than DPP to win back the votes.
 

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A strong China means DPP will continue to be the party dominating political arena for next decade.

KMT needs to reposition itself to be even more anti-China than DPP to win back the votes.

KMT is fked alr...两头不到岸
 
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