Liverpool Forum (Anfield) - Part 19

[zjllee]

Jesus saves Man city. What a headline.

 

[messi7]

liverpool problem is that they cant cross the ball from the wing.
always attack in the middle.

I hope Klopp team is training our attackers to do so.. that's the only way we can overcome park bus team which is attacking from the wing

 

[daylight]

FSG is strangely silent over the recent blip in Liverpool.
I dun see Henry in the stand any more. (Maybe I missed it)
Roman is still being photographed in the stand yesterday.

As for star players, I believe FSG is willing to spend if Klopp can justify his case and sell some of the players to balance the bank account.
I tend to believe that they are still willing to spend the money that resulted in the panic buy of Mario and Benteke.

So, it boils down to one person - Klopp.

Klopp did not take the opportunity to groom and expand the squad last summer as he believe that the additional players will be wasting their time on the bench with no European commitments.
Ings was actually deemed as surplus before he have his injuries.
It is a obvious YES.

Klopp under-estimated the demands of the BPL and over-estimated the quality of the squad that he inherited.

Strange enough, he continue to make the same mistake in the Jan transfer window. He want to buy certain players. If they are overpriced or not keen to come to Liverpool, there are no alternatives and case closed.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/02/5-key-things-jurgen-klopp-got-wrong-liverpools-winter-slump/

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...eaker-premier-league-sides-hull-a7563226.html

For the last few games (I lost count), he have been giving lots of excuses for the defeat.
The most ridiculous one is the strong wind in Anfield in which he used for the WBA defeat in his 1st half a season.
If BR gave this reason, he will be bashed till he dunno who is his mummy.

After last night, he went ballistic against the players by asking them to wake up.
Sadly, the one that need to wake up is Klopp himself.
The players have already woken up and know that how hard they bash the wall from the center, it ain't going to open despite of how insistent Klopp is insisting them to do.
That is why they are not wasting their energy in doing something that do not work.

Milner have a dispute with Klopp and was replaced after that.
The players are losing faith in Klopp's tactics.
They played hard against the top 5 knowing that these teams do not park any bus and their system will work.

Klopp need to go locked himself in the conference room with himself alone and faced his ego.
As long as he dun see himself as the problem, there will be no solution.
His German blueprint that brought him success do not work for Liverpool.
He can throw away his 10 year series.

Klopp failed a few times and bounced back after that.
Can he do it now with his Liverpool experiment ?
His time is running up as his emotional account with the fans are running dry.

klopp is very stubborn.
he dun like his players criticize or dun follow his orders.
look at what happened to sakho.
his failure to understand the difference between german n bpl.
bpl dun have winter break while germany has.
in fact during xmas/new year there are more matches than ever.

 

[daylight]

Jesus saves Man city. What a headline.

this new player they bought is ******* good.
and he is only 19 yrs old

 

[econsmagic]

Hope klopp can find a way

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[daylight]

how come opposing team goal keeper seldom make errors when playing against liverpool

But City snatched a late winner when Fabianski spilled Gabriel Jesus' header in added time and he pounced to score the rebound from close range to seal all three points.

 

[deadguy]

how come opposing team goal keeper seldom make errors when playing against liverpool

But City snatched a late winner when Fabianski spilled Gabriel Jesus' header in added time and he pounced to score the rebound from close range to seal all three points.

It's the other way around for us .

 

[Sinkie]

this new player they bought is ******* good.
and he is only 19 yrs old

While we have Allen who can't get a work permit at all

 

[Himmler Goering]

Nice read :

In my humble opinion and it makes me sad to say this out loud, Klopp had a great idea how to play football. But he is not a good coach. He is probably the most charismatic person in the soccer business, but he is not a good coach. The idea and his charisma were very good for a couple of seasons, but people found a remedy against it. They just defend very, very deep. Think of it like this: Have you played soccer yourself? The more legs in a confined space, the harder it becomes to get past them. Most soccer players need space to use their qualities. But Klopp presses the opposite team into their defense and it becomes harder and harder to defend. To achieve this goal, Klopps defense is standing very, very high and there is a looooot of space for the attackers to work with.

It works amazingly well against good teams, because they refuse to be pressed into their own half, but at the end of his BVB career, even the good teams chose a deep defense, making it harder against the good teams. Klopps style is physically very exhausting, so it becomes worse and worse season for season, because players start to burn out.

What I never understood was that Klopp could not see past his initial idea, change the style against weaker teams. It was basically the opposite, he pressed more and more, because pressing in his opinion is the best playmaker.

 

[deadguy]

this new player they bought is ******* good.
and he is only 19 yrs old

Somehow they are unlucky that they can only bring him in in Jan instead of early season . Only 19 but already a regular for Brazil.

 

[cybertech]

how come opposing team goal keeper seldom make errors when playing against liverpool

But City snatched a late winner when Fabianski spilled Gabriel Jesus' header in added time and he pounced to score the rebound from close range to seal all three points.

I dont see Swansea park bus also when playing manc just now.
There already a confirmed winnable formula against Liverpool team and yet we have not found a way to resolve that

 

[Medicated Oil]

how come opposing team goal keeper seldom make errors when playing against liverpool

But City snatched a late winner when Fabianski spilled Gabriel Jesus' header in added time and he pounced to score the rebound from close range to seal all three points.

Answer to your queries.

Liverpool do not have a lot of attempts on goal as most of the attacks are snubbed out by the defenders.
Liverpool cannot deliver accurate free kick.
Liverpool cannot provide accurate pass from corner for their players.
Liverpool do not have any potent or clinical strikers.
Liverpool do not have any players who are good with headers.
Liverpool do not have any specialist winger. Mane ?

In summary, the opponent GK do not have much chances to make any error since the attempts are either inaccurate or less.

So, what are Liverpool players doing during their training ?
I really do not know now.

 

[Medicated Oil]

Manager: To break the wall, use your head.
Player: Boss, but the head will break.

Manager: Dun complain, just train your head to be harder.
Player: Boss, we trained our head a lot liao. The wall is still intact.

Manager: That means you never train hard enough. Go and train.
Player: Boss, our head are very trained and banged the wall until got bun liao.

Manager: You still never try hard enough. You should bang the wall till your head breaks. Wake up your ideas and do it.
Player: But ? But ? But ?

Manager: The boss is always right and dun question my tactics.
Player:

 

[cybertech]

Hope klopp can find a way

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Seriously if got to find a way better find it fast. After next weekend we could be ended up at 6th and now already dropout of top 4.

 

[Henabi]

All of a sudden Mu and Everton are right behind us...

Is it possible for a team which was challenging for the title to drop ALL the way to midtable by May?

Why is our team ALWAYS playing the same way week in week out despite knowing that the opposite will sit deep and hit us on the counter?

Is Klopp trying to play his way out?

So many questions...

This week playing against spurs home
arsenal playing against hull.

 

[s7460597]

All of a sudden Mu and Everton are right behind us...

Is it possible for a team which was challenging for the title to drop ALL the way to midtable by May?

Why is our team ALWAYS playing the same way week in week out despite knowing that the opposite will sit deep and hit us on the counter?

Is Klopp trying to play his way out?

So many questions...

This week playing against spurs home
arsenal playing against hull.

Yes, season doesn't end after 30 games.

Don't think tactically there's a lot big of changes. Although there are small changes depending on the opponent.

Think the problem was the injuries which isn't good as squad depth want as good as hoped for. Can and Henderson have been playing with injuries which affected their form.

Some players also didn't step up or perform as expected.

My two cents if the underperformers don't buck up they'll be sent on their way end of the season. Klopp has shown he is ruthless and doesn't have any favourites if they don't perform.

 

[Henabi]

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/02/jurgen-klopp-expects-reds-response-tottenham/

Do you think a really big defeat against spurs is what our team needs right now?

 

[s7460597]

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/02/jurgen-klopp-expects-reds-response-tottenham/

Do you think a really big defeat against spurs is what our team needs right now?

No doesn't help. What is needed is for the players to step up and start working hard on the field. For sure the pressure on these guys will have increased. the media, social media and fans in England will let them know well enough what we oot fans also feel.

Also klopp will let them know his mind. Klopp doesn't throw players under the bus and will take action if there's no positive reaction.

 

[trickle_on]

No way.

Frustrated or not, anyone who wishes to see us lose should not be calling themselves supporters.

We already have one too many pseudo fans, rent boys and old toilet-supporting characters spouting rubbish here.

Let's not go into a full blown meltdown.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2017/02/jurgen-klopp-expects-reds-response-tottenham/

Do you think a really big defeat against spurs is what our team needs right now?

 

[begintoend]

Not gonna lose to hotsperms
No ******* way!

Part 20 please