LOGISTICS OFFICER CADETS' COURSE (LOCC)

[Kyoji83]

May I know what is the primary exercises & how many weeks are for that exercise(s) that cannot be miss or else OOC for LOGISTICS OFFICER CADETS' COURSE (LOCC)?

 

[reddevil0728]

U gonna sign on?

 

[Kyoji83]

Not at the moment but if I can become a commission officer, I do not needs to go OCS for same vocation & if I sign other vocation, I only needs to go for their Prof term.

U gonna sign on?

 

[reddevil0728]

Not at the moment but if I can become a commission officer, I do not needs to go OCS for same vocation & if I sign other vocation, I only needs to go for their Prof term.

what talking you? catch no balls

 

[vincentlyx]

dun catch any balls either... haha. what is "I do not needs to go OCS for same vocation & if I sign other vocation, I only needs to go for their Prof term."

if u sign on as LogO dan you will have to go for their OCS training wat. Applies for all the other vocations ...

 

[Kyoji83]

As a OCT, they needs to go though Common Leadership Module, Service Term, Social Events, Professional Term & Joint Term.


If I am now a NS LOGISTICS OFFICER & I sign on as a LOGISTICS OFFICER, I do not needs to attend any OCT Term & directly enter a unit.


If I am now a NS LOGISTICS OFFICER & I sign on as a eg: SIGNAL OFFICER, I only needs to attend Professional Term in Signal Institute & not OCS.

 

[I_Cannot_Eat_Apple]

not true... sign on or not u still need to go thru CLM n service term...
basically LOCC u will be having alot of field deployment and tons of planning on how to support a batt if nt a div. it's nt easy at all. alot more tougher then other arms.. u have to go thru sleepless nights every week.. its a total of 21 week for LOCC. 2week for peacetime and e rest will be on OPS. and follow on with peacetime specialisation.

 

[vincentlyx]

hey TS.. paiseh.. u sure u toking sense? wat sign on means no need to go thru OCT?

the officer contract is only guaranteed if you manage to commission...

 

[Kyoji83]

What I mean is if I am a NSman who attended LOCC & commission as a Logistics Officer without going for CLM & service term.


And since I am already a NS Logistics Officer, there is no needs to go for CLM & army service term cause these 2 courses are to train you for Prof Term & become an officer & not for soldier who are already an army commission officer.


So, normaly men/sgt will needs to enter as OCT & go for CLM, army service & LOCC while I am already a NS Logistics Officer who will be signing on & directly post to an unit to be a MTO/S4 & etc.


If I sign on signal officer, I only needs to top up Prof Term cause I am train to be a Logistics Officer & not Signal Officer.

hey TS.. paiseh.. u sure u toking sense? wat sign on means no need to go thru OCT?

the officer contract is only guaranteed if you manage to commission...

not true... sign on or not u still need to go thru CLM n service term...
basically LOCC u will be having alot of field deployment and tons of planning on how to support a batt if nt a div. it's nt easy at all. alot more tougher then other arms.. u have to go thru sleepless nights every week.. its a total of 21 week for LOCC. 2week for peacetime and e rest will be on OPS. and follow on with peacetime specialisation.

 

[reddevil0728]

What I mean is if I am a NSman who attended LOCC & commission as a Logistics Officer without going for CLM & service term.


And since I am already a NS Logistics Officer, there is no needs to go for CLM & army service term cause these 2 courses are to train you for Prof Term & become an officer & not for soldier who are already an army commission officer.


So, normaly men/sgt will needs to enter as OCT & go for CLM, army service & LOCC while I am already a NS Logistics Officer who will be signing on & directly post to an unit to be a MTO/S4 & etc.


If I sign on signal officer, I only needs to top up Prof Term cause I am train to be a Logistics Officer & not Signal Officer.

I thought you only a NSmen WOSE?

 

[Kyoji83]

Yes, I am now only a NSman WOSE but I may become a commission officer because there is a demand for 1 & I am 1 of the only 2 NSmen mostly holding an officer appointment in my unit.

So, if we are going to hold an officer appointment, must as well get the rank as well.

There are 2 ways which is to attend LOCC to be commission as an officer or ask Service Chief to promote 1 of us to be 2WO directly since we are going to ROD in few ICTs time & cannot slowly promote 1 rank up every ICT.

I thought you only a NSmen WOSE?

 

[reddevil0728]

Yes, I am now only a NSman WOSE but I may become a commission officer because there is a demand for 1 & I am 1 of the only 2 NSmen mostly holding an officer appointment in my unit.

So, if we are going to hold an officer appointment, must as well get the rank as well.

There are 2 ways which is to attend LOCC to be commission as an officer or ask Service Chief to promote 1 of us to be 2WO directly since we are going to ROD in few ICTs time & cannot slowly promote 1 rank up every ICT.

You think it's damn easy? and ask service chief to promote? lol.... i think COA/CAF/CNV got more stuff to do siahz. they can simply just post some commission officer in to fill the job right?

 

[I_Cannot_Eat_Apple]

LOCC = Logistic OFFICER CADET Course = chao cadet fresh frm OCS
if u is NSman alr, probably u have other course which is more specific to ur appointment rather than wad will be taught in LOCC. i didnt knw that can suka suka jus commision an officer..

 

[nitelife]

Not at the moment but if I can become a commission officer, I do not needs to go OCS for same vocation & if I sign other vocation, I only needs to go for their Prof term.

if u wan to sign other vocation then u nid to start all over again...but u will be treated better there during CLM and service term

 

[nitelife]

and dun join logistic la...come combat engr...EOCC better

 

[vincentlyx]

oh.. okok i get it TS.. so u are currently a NSmen Spec who wants to sign on la...

then like that as what u sae la... just have to attend the prof term whereby they specifically train u to be a Log Officer.

but wait .. i am further confused now..

So as of now u r a NSman serving in a NSmen unit? And r u signing on as Signals or Log officer??

"If I sign on signal officer, I only needs to top up Prof Term cause I am train to be a Logistics Officer & not Signal Officer."

from what i know, NSmen unit dun usually promote their Specs to Officer one.. if there is a Log Officer missing, the brigade will just top up. Reason is because they dun have the time to train u. An LOCC term will be about 6mths. The limit for NS recall is only 48 days if i am not wrong. Unless you want to volunteer the extra days.. but i am wondering what will happen to your civilian career.

 

[reddevil0728]

oh.. okok i get it TS.. so u are currently a NSmen Spec who wants to sign on la...

then like that as what u sae la... just have to attend the prof term whereby they specifically train u to be a Log Officer.

but wait .. i am further confused now..

So as of now u r a NSman serving in a NSmen unit? And r u signing on as Signals or Log officer??

"If I sign on signal officer, I only needs to top up Prof Term cause I am train to be a Logistics Officer & not Signal Officer."

from what i know, NSmen unit dun usually promote their Specs to Officer one.. if there is a Log Officer missing, the brigade will just top up. Reason is because they dun have the time to train u. An LOCC term will be about 6mths. The limit for NS recall is only 48 days if i am not wrong. Unless you want to volunteer the extra days.. but i am wondering what will happen to your civilian career.

Should be 40 days not 48

 

[happy87]

go for warrant officer's course

promote to 3wo. warrant officer's course is just a few weeks. This is provided that they need an officer and are sending one there.

 

[Kyoji83]

You think it's damn easy? and ask service chief to promote? lol.... i think COA/CAF/CNV got more stuff to do siahz.

Lolz, true ")

they can simply just post some commission officer in to fill the job right?

True, but in my unit, ....


Getting a regular who have other appointment from my unit to hold this appointment will have conflict issues.


Getting any NS commission officer/warrant officer/senior specialist to hold the appointment will result failure because they are incompetent as they do not have the skill, knowledge & working experience.


Only left with the choice of promoting 1 of the 2 NS Spec to hold the officer appointment.

 

[Kyoji83]

Next level is Unit Logistics Officer Course (ULOC) for NSman but this cannot confirm sucessful be recommended to be commision as an officer which LOCC is a more confirm course to be sucessful recommended for commision as an officer

LOCC = Logistic OFFICER CADET Course = chao cadet fresh frm OCS
if u is NSman alr, probably u have other course which is more specific to ur appointment rather than wad will be taught in LOCC. i didnt knw that can suka suka jus commision an officer..